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Hell, Christopher's method of death was reported in one of the paparazzi rags MONTHS ago. He gets in an accident, he's more than likely going to die, and Tony is about to call 911, but stops and sees to it that Christopher dies quicker.
Like I just said, I don't think the show has lived up to the high standards it set for itself with the first 2-3 seasons (which I also admit, are high standards to live up to). I like this show; I've just been disappointed lately. If I "hated" the show, why would I post as much as I have in the various Sopranos threads?
I actually don't disagree with much of what you're saying. Personally, I was hoping Chris would have more of a role in (what may or may not be) the inheritance of the throne. Maybe I am just disappointed that we lost such a great character. Maybe I was just hoping for something more from Christopher Moltesanti. I guess I just didn't like the way he went out, that's all. I thought there was far more potential for his character I guess.Was I totally happy about how chris died? not completely I guess, but I don't make the rules, and I thought the way they tied tony's complete disregard for it into the story was really well done. he's a monster, and chase is hammering that into our skulls now.I thought the whole series was amped up towards Chris killing T at the end, so yea, I was a little taken back by the way it went down, but the way they handled it was excellent, imo.edit: like chase has said countless times, everything is not cinematic. some people die in things as mundane as car accidents. not everything is a shootout.
fair enough. guess I was hoping for something different as well, but I'm sure Chase will end it in an interesting fashion.maybe it's not as good as 1-3, but as you said, that's an awfully difficult barometer to meet. personally, I think it'll match up in the end.Like I just said, I don't think the show has lived up to the high standards it set for itself with the first 2-3 seasons (which I also admit, are high standards to live up to). I like this show; I've just been disappointed lately. If I "hated" the show, why would I post as much as I have in the various Sopranos threads?I actually don't disagree with much of what you're saying. Personally, I was hoping Chris would have more of a role in (what may or may not be) the inheritance of the throne. Maybe I am just disappointed that we lost such a great character. Maybe I was just hoping for something more from Christopher Moltesanti. I guess I just didn't like the way he went out, that's all. I thought there was far more potential for his character I guess.Was I totally happy about how chris died? not completely I guess, but I don't make the rules, and I thought the way they tied tony's complete disregard for it into the story was really well done. he's a monster, and chase is hammering that into our skulls now.I thought the whole series was amped up towards Chris killing T at the end, so yea, I was a little taken back by the way it went down, but the way they handled it was excellent, imo.edit: like chase has said countless times, everything is not cinematic. some people die in things as mundane as car accidents. not everything is a shootout.
Please, no snowglobe ending. Please.
I feel a hug coming on between you two.fair enough. guess I was hoping for something different as well, but I'm sure Chase will end it in an interesting fashion.maybe it's not as good as 1-3, but as you said, that's an awfully difficult barometer to meet. personally, I think it'll match up in the end.Like I just said, I don't think the show has lived up to the high standards it set for itself with the first 2-3 seasons (which I also admit, are high standards to live up to). I like this show; I've just been disappointed lately. If I "hated" the show, why would I post as much as I have in the various Sopranos threads?I actually don't disagree with much of what you're saying. Personally, I was hoping Chris would have more of a role in (what may or may not be) the inheritance of the throne. Maybe I am just disappointed that we lost such a great character. Maybe I was just hoping for something more from Christopher Moltesanti. I guess I just didn't like the way he went out, that's all. I thought there was far more potential for his character I guess.Was I totally happy about how chris died? not completely I guess, but I don't make the rules, and I thought the way they tied tony's complete disregard for it into the story was really well done. he's a monster, and chase is hammering that into our skulls now.I thought the whole series was amped up towards Chris killing T at the end, so yea, I was a little taken back by the way it went down, but the way they handled it was excellent, imo.edit: like chase has said countless times, everything is not cinematic. some people die in things as mundane as car accidents. not everything is a shootout.
I've been a good soldier, pimping The Sopranos since Day 1. By now, I can recite episodes from the first two seasons nearly word-for-word. Except for a few below par episodes in seasons 4 and 6, I don't complain all that much. In short, I have been a loyal ambassador for this show since it's inception.To that end, would it KILL David Chase to throw me a bone here? All I've asked - patiently - since season 2, is for Janice to die in spectacular fashion on-screen. Preferably a slow, glorious, painful demise.Is that too much to ask? Time is slipping away....
Don't shoot the messenger.
I simply copied and pasted what was written on TV Guide's website.Maybe they were going to use this episode to cut into the Super Bowl coverage.The title of this episode "Kennedy and Heidi" - explain? Chrissy's wife Kelly looked and acted like Jackie Kennedy, OK but why is that important? And where does Heidi come in? Was that the name of the chick in Vegas?
Weren't those the names of the two chicks in the car that almost hit Christopher?Maybe they were going to use this episode to cut into the Super Bowl coverage.The title of this episode "Kennedy and Heidi" - explain? Chrissy's wife Kelly looked and acted like Jackie Kennedy, OK but why is that important? And where does Heidi come in? Was that the name of the chick in Vegas?
I didn't think it was a cheap way to die. Tony looked Chris eye to eye and calmly suffocated him. It was a deliberate and evil act. A cheap death would've been Tony or Pauly shooting him in a moment of rage.In a couple years people will watch re-runs or their DVD's of the final season and realize how great the episodes are. The story might not be going in the direction that some people want, but the writing is as good as it's ever been.
Good night!
We got to that two pages ago, Cade.Weren't those the names of the two chicks in the car that almost hit Christopher?Maybe they were going to use this episode to cut into the Super Bowl coverage.The title of this episode "Kennedy and Heidi" - explain? Chrissy's wife Kelly looked and acted like Jackie Kennedy, OK but why is that important? And where does Heidi come in? Was that the name of the chick in Vegas?
Pretty sure he yelled "I GET it."
No, that would be way too cool. Never happen.
It's very sad to see him go out the way he did, but I think that was by design. I think Chase was looking for the "what a shame" reaction with Chris' death. Doesn't make it right, as Chris definitely deserved better, but at least I understand WHY he did it.Damn, that was depressing as hell. Christopher was one of my favorite characters, and it sucked seeing him go out like that.
I don't know about any of you, but I could sense something was going to happen on the road.
It's not like he's gonna be missed TOO much. There are only a few more episodes!It's very sad to see him go out the way he did, but I think that was by design. I think Chase was looking for the "what a shame" reaction with Chris' death. Doesn't make it right, as Chris definitely deserved better, but at least I understand WHY he did it.Damn, that was depressing as hell. Christopher was one of my favorite characters, and it sucked seeing him go out like that.
Names of the two girls in the car who Chris swerved to avoid.The title of this episode "Kennedy and Heidi" - explain? Chrissy's wife Kelly looked and acted like Jackie Kennedy, OK but why is that important? And where does Heidi come in? Was that the name of the chick in Vegas?
in case you didn't know by the 5 other replies . . .Names of the two girls in the car who Chris swerved to avoid.The title of this episode "Kennedy and Heidi" - explain? Chrissy's wife Kelly looked and acted like Jackie Kennedy, OK but why is that important? And where does Heidi come in? Was that the name of the chick in Vegas?
I will be so very pissed if Tony is in another coma from the accident or this is a dream. With the flashing lights and other similarities to the previous dream episodes I am a little concerned.And who are Heidi and Kennedy?
the names of the . . . hey, wait a minute!I will be so very pissed if Tony is in another coma from the accident or this is a dream. With the flashing lights and other similarities to the previous dream episodes I am a little concerned.And who are Heidi and Kennedy?
BOALTOADS...on a serious note, did anyone else take Tony bagging the girl and winning all that money on roulette as him coming to the conclusion that he did the right thing in killing Chris and that his luck is changing?
How long does this take to get updated?
I think that was pretty much the whole point up until the very last moment. The most sensible answer to "I get it" is that Tony is basically a "fat, ####### crook from New Jersey," as he once told Melfi, and that he is happy and successful when he is engaing in vices and basically being a selfish #####. The main point of the series is that he can't stop questioning and wondering if what he is doing is really "moral" and/or how it relates to his family. That would seem to be the interpretation based on this individual episode. I am hoping that that is not really the revelation, though, because I think it will feel a little hollow depending on how the whole thing plays out. I still feel that Tony has to end up being punished in a fairly significant way, but maybe he won't if Chase is keeping in line with his "slice-of-life" more than the cinematic life arc (or whatever).
great.
I thought it was apparent that they were going to crash from the time the scene started. I think Nostredamus is safe.One thing I caught just before the accident. Chris foreshadows his death...He says "This Departed soundtrack is f***** killer"Not only does "The Departed" tie in to things, but then he says it's "f***** killer" Interesting.
Not sure that it matters that much what he does at any individual time. They know who he is and what he has probably dropped in the past (and possibly his position may hold influence, not 100% sure).Edited: Meaning, not sure if his position in Jersey has a lot of sway in Vegas. I'd think it could, but I don't know if we've ever been told this.
I mentioned in a previous post that AJ could flip. He gets noticeably uncomfortable around violence (I strongly think the acid thing was him just wanting to fit it and not look like a sissty)....and you're right, having AJ turn on him would be the most meaningful (hurtful) thing for Tony
Right, you're in here asking for episode recaps and wondering what's going on, but you're proud of yourself for saving 12 bucks.
Flip? AJ knows nothing, he'd be useless to the feds.
I could see AJ possibly killing Tony.But there is no way he could ever 'flip'. He doesn't know ANYTHING.
Yeah, an episode that generates this much discussion couldn't have been any good.
