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First of all, I'm not looking for some kind of "clarification" on these. I just thought they were worth mentioning and/or discussing.

People are so hung up on the ending scene that they aren't discussing some of the more salient points of the show:

1. Janice telling Uncle June "I'm your daughter" She didn't. Certainly sounds like it. As I just mentioned, I watched that scene around 5 times and it's pretty clear. What do you think she said?

2. What exactly was AJ's epiphany that made everything okay for him? A nice BMW and job working in porn will do that for a kid. Seemed like more than that. In the scene with the psychiatrist, it's apparent he's had some deeper realization about life or himself or both.

3. Why exactly did Carmella get so upset at listening to Meadow's friend recount her success? I think saying she is "SO" upset is overstating it. Meadow's decisionmaking has been questioned for some time - the other chick seemed to put her life together - Horseface's reaction was one of a parent who wishes her kid did things a little differently. Obviously this is it. Her abrupt leaving of the room seemed a bit overdone.

4. Is Uncle June completely gone or is he still just partially gone and paranoid (not telling Janice where the money is)? Yes. He is gone. If he weren't, he never would have allowed for the indignity of transfering to the ####hole to which he is now confined. Not a lot he could have done about it. His only contacts are Janice and his old buddy... both of whom are pretty impotent to help him.

5. Doogie Howser's sidekick becoming Paulie Jr - the hair, the bicep curls. You consider that a "salient" point? Yes. That was very intentional and fits in with the "on and on" theme of the show. The cycle goes on. The younger generation will continue to carry forward and they aren't so different from the older generation - in fact, in this instance they are exactly the same.

6. The FBI agent and his excitement when he heard Phil had gotten whacked. Has been discussed at length - I interpreted it as a "if you can't beat em, join em" moment. His recent give and take with Tony has him "rooting for Tony". Maybe - but from the point of view of the FBI, this was a great couple of weeks for them. Tony's gang is massively weekend and the head of the NY family is whacked. Maybe they were massaging things to go that way for a while.

7. The conversation with Meadow's boyfriend at dinner. What do you want clarification on here? Just thought it was interesting - especially when he talks about the current case he is working on.

your point on history repeating was brought to the front in the SUV, when AJ and the chick were listening to music...

something to the effect "even 30 years later, it's like it applies to right here , right now"

see Symba, Lion King

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Tony Soprano : [over the phone]  It's a bad connection, so I'm gonna talk fast! The guy you're looking for is an ex-commando! He killed sixteen Chechen rebels single-handed! Paulie 'Walnuts' Gual

These are from an email David Chase sent to Michael Imperioli, read on today’s episode of the “Talking Sopranos” podcast. The Sopranos in the Time of Corona: Paulie Walnuts Yeah people

Could have used more Furio before they wrote him out. His first scene in America collecting at the brothel was insane. up in the club cracks me up every time.

http://drawergeek.blogspot.com/2007/06/sop...y-happened.html

Found this on a message board. If this is all true, I think people who hated that finale might do a 180. Wow.

"OK, at first I was really angry. I mean really, really angry. I can't believe though that no-one has posted by now what happened. The only thing I saw that was right, was that in the last scene we are seeing through Tony's eyes. Remember in the first season when Tony was speaking with Bobby...basically saying that you don't see your death happening?

So here is what I found out. The guy at the bar is also credited as Nikki Leotardo. The same actor played him in the first part of season 6 during a brief sit down concerning the future of Vito. That wasn't that long ago. Apparently, he is the nephew of Phil. Phil's brother Nikki Senior was killed in 1976 in a car accident. Absolutely Genius!!!! David Chase is truly rewarding the true fans who pay attention to detail.

So the point would have been that life continues and we may never know the end of the Sopranos. But if you pay attention to the history, you will find that all the answers lie in the characters in the restaurant. The trucker was the brother of the guy who was robbed by Christopher in Season 2. Remember the DVD players? The trucker had to identify the body. The boy scouts were in the train store and the black guys at the end were the ones who tried to kill Tony and only clipped him in the ear (was that season 2 or 3?).

Absolutely incredible!!!! There were three people in the restaurant who had reason to kill Tony and then it just ends. This was Chase's way of proving that he will not escape his past. It will not go on forever despite that he would like it to "don't stop". Not the fans!!! Tony would like it to keep going but just as we have to say goodbye, so does he. No more Tony and I guess we are supposed to be happy that Meadow didn't get clipped as well (she would have been between the shooter and Tony) since she is the only one worth a crap in that family.

Thank you David Chase for making it so obscure that I feel bad for hating you at first. Absolutely amazing!!!!"

ALSO:

"I feel much better about this finale after watching it a second time. In the split second before the screen goes blank you can see panic rushing over Tony's face and he also seems to be reaching under the table for something."

wow. my post below yours now looks very stupid.
If those folks are indeed the people from past episodes, that would make the whole thing a lot better.
imdb doesn't have the complete cast list of each season/episode that I can find.
The actor's name is Paola Colandera. He's credited as "Man in Member's Only Jacket" in the finale.
Where'd you find that? Has he been used before?
Still got the finale on DVR. Rewatched the credits. I can't find any references to the guy in imdb or in google.
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I'm thinking that the whole series of events will allow Tony to merge his two families. He is getting AJ involved through the movie gig and he will eventually run a nightclub. Christopher did the same thing for Adrianna and Tony used the club as a front. Meadow is becoming a lawyer and marrying Patsy's son, who is also an attorney. Tony is in need of a consigliere, especially if Silvio is out of commission. Between the law background and their connections within the legal circle, Meadow and/or Patrick could be very valuable to Tony.

All the while, Carmella is clueless as to Tony's real intentions.

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When was the last time a show's last episode was any good?

6 Feet Under
:goodposting: Six Feet Under always did a great job with the season ending episodes and the series finale was awesome.
:unsure::lmao: 6'U was the best finale I've ever seen.
:lmao::lmao::yes: best show in the history of TV, as far as i'm concerned.
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The interpretation of the finale will go on forever.

Yep. No one remembers the "safe" finales.
Yeah, that M*A*S*H finale sure was forgotten quickly. :goodposting:
forever? nah, it will be forgotten by the end of the week
right :ph34r:
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Any movies will be minus Satriale's - it's being turned into condos.-QG

what town is it in?
Kearny, NJThey used an old store front as Satriale's (rented it out for the run of the show). The sign was up year round (people knew they'd be filming soon when the pig went up on the roof). Apparently it used to be an auto parts store and before that it actually was a butcher's shop. Show's over. Lease's over. Signs and presumably the props that they stored inside - all gone.-QG
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The interpretation of the finale will go on forever.

Yep. No one remembers the "safe" finales.
Yeah, that M*A*S*H finale sure was forgotten quickly. :goodposting:
forever? nah, it will be forgotten by the end of the week
right :ph34r:
:bye: at the indignation here.
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I think all the people in the restaurant, particularly the suspicious ones, are meant to be reminiscient of people from the past, but not actually are. Basically, Tony sees everyone as a potential threat to take him out and has to think twice every time he looks at anyone. He has to always be ready.

-QG

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The interpretation of the finale will go on forever.

Yep. No one remembers the "safe" finales.
Yeah, that M*A*S*H finale sure was forgotten quickly. :confused:
What happened, again?
War ends, hugs and tears abound. Klinger stays behind to help his wife look for her family. Hawkeye flies away in the chopper, sees the big "Goodbye" message left by BJ. One of the most moving moments evah in TV.
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The interpretation of the finale will go on forever.

Yep. No one remembers the "safe" finales.
Yeah, that M*A*S*H finale sure was forgotten quickly. :confused:
What happened, again?
War ends, hugs and tears abound. Klinger stays behind to help his wife look for her family. Hawkeye flies away in the chopper, sees the big "Goodbye" message left by BJ. One of the most moving moments evah in TV.
Thanks. I forgot.
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I think all the people in the restaurant, particularly the suspicious ones, are meant to be reminiscient of people from the past, but not actually are. Basically, Tony sees everyone as a potential threat to take him out and has to think twice every time he looks at anyone. He has to always be ready.-QG

yea, those black guys were definitely NOT the black guys that tried to kill him in season 1.
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The interpretation of the finale will go on forever.

Yep. No one remembers the "safe" finales.
Yeah, that M*A*S*H finale sure was forgotten quickly. :confused:
What happened, again?
War ends, hugs and tears abound. Klinger stays behind to help his wife look for her family. Hawkeye flies away in the chopper, sees the big "Goodbye" message left by BJ. One of the most moving moments evah in TV.
Thanks. I forgot.
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Anyone else bitter that they wasted so much time with the ridiculous dream sequence episodes? I absolutely hated those.

I loved them. :confused:
Me too, especially the Kevin Finnerty ones.
Agree with Nigel here. The Finnerty one was horrible but none compared to the steaming pile of crap that was the next-to-last episode of Season 5 (where Tony has a bunch of random dreams including losing his teeth during dinner with Annette Bening and nearly banging Carmine Sr.)I'd sooner put up with another melodramatic Melfi session than deal with that "look deeper into the meaning" nonsense.
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http://drawergeek.blogspot.com/2007/06/sop...y-happened.html

Found this on a message board. If this is all true, I think people who hated that finale might do a 180. Wow.

"OK, at first I was really angry. I mean really, really angry. I can't believe though that no-one has posted by now what happened. The only thing I saw that was right, was that in the last scene we are seeing through Tony's eyes. Remember in the first season when Tony was speaking with Bobby...basically saying that you don't see your death happening?

So here is what I found out. The guy at the bar is also credited as Nikki Leotardo. The same actor played him in the first part of season 6 during a brief sit down concerning the future of Vito. That wasn't that long ago. Apparently, he is the nephew of Phil. Phil's brother Nikki Senior was killed in 1976 in a car accident. Absolutely Genius!!!! David Chase is truly rewarding the true fans who pay attention to detail.

So the point would have been that life continues and we may never know the end of the Sopranos. But if you pay attention to the history, you will find that all the answers lie in the characters in the restaurant. The trucker was the brother of the guy who was robbed by Christopher in Season 2. Remember the DVD players? The trucker had to identify the body. The boy scouts were in the train store and the black guys at the end were the ones who tried to kill Tony and only clipped him in the ear (was that season 2 or 3?).

Absolutely incredible!!!! There were three people in the restaurant who had reason to kill Tony and then it just ends. This was Chase's way of proving that he will not escape his past. It will not go on forever despite that he would like it to "don't stop". Not the fans!!! Tony would like it to keep going but just as we have to say goodbye, so does he. No more Tony and I guess we are supposed to be happy that Meadow didn't get clipped as well (she would have been between the shooter and Tony) since she is the only one worth a crap in that family.

Thank you David Chase for making it so obscure that I feel bad for hating you at first. Absolutely amazing!!!!"

ALSO:

"I feel much better about this finale after watching it a second time. In the split second before the screen goes blank you can see panic rushing over Tony's face and he also seems to be reaching under the table for something."

wow. my post below yours now looks very stupid.
If those folks are indeed the people from past episodes, that would make the whole thing a lot better.
imdb doesn't have the complete cast list of each season/episode that I can find.
The actor's name is Paola Colandera. He's credited as "Man in Member's Only Jacket" in the finale.
Where'd you find that? Has he been used before?
http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/111...07-1360360.html
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I think all the people in the restaurant, particularly the suspicious ones, are meant to be reminiscient of people from the past, but not actually are. Basically, Tony sees everyone as a potential threat to take him out and has to think twice every time he looks at anyone. He has to always be ready.-QG

Probably a pretty good theory.
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http://drawergeek.blogspot.com/2007/06/sop...y-happened.html

Found this on a message board. If this is all true, I think people who hated that finale might do a 180. Wow.

"OK, at first I was really angry. I mean really, really angry. I can't believe though that no-one has posted by now what happened. The only thing I saw that was right, was that in the last scene we are seeing through Tony's eyes. Remember in the first season when Tony was speaking with Bobby...basically saying that you don't see your death happening?

So here is what I found out. The guy at the bar is also credited as Nikki Leotardo. The same actor played him in the first part of season 6 during a brief sit down concerning the future of Vito. That wasn't that long ago. Apparently, he is the nephew of Phil. Phil's brother Nikki Senior was killed in 1976 in a car accident. Absolutely Genius!!!! David Chase is truly rewarding the true fans who pay attention to detail.

So the point would have been that life continues and we may never know the end of the Sopranos. But if you pay attention to the history, you will find that all the answers lie in the characters in the restaurant. The trucker was the brother of the guy who was robbed by Christopher in Season 2. Remember the DVD players? The trucker had to identify the body. The boy scouts were in the train store and the black guys at the end were the ones who tried to kill Tony and only clipped him in the ear (was that season 2 or 3?).

Absolutely incredible!!!! There were three people in the restaurant who had reason to kill Tony and then it just ends. This was Chase's way of proving that he will not escape his past. It will not go on forever despite that he would like it to "don't stop". Not the fans!!! Tony would like it to keep going but just as we have to say goodbye, so does he. No more Tony and I guess we are supposed to be happy that Meadow didn't get clipped as well (she would have been between the shooter and Tony) since she is the only one worth a crap in that family.

Thank you David Chase for making it so obscure that I feel bad for hating you at first. Absolutely amazing!!!!"

ALSO:

"I feel much better about this finale after watching it a second time. In the split second before the screen goes blank you can see panic rushing over Tony's face and he also seems to be reaching under the table for something."

:confused:

Just fan fiction--none of these 3 people cited are correct--the dude in the Members Only jacket was just cast for this scene according to the interview with him before. And all black people don't look alike, these are different guys.

It's just like the jukebox said: "Any Way You Like It"

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Anyone else bitter that they wasted so much time with the ridiculous dream sequence episodes? I absolutely hated those.

I loved them. :ptts:
you did? wow. i thought they were brutal.
I'll still make love to you. To me, those episodes were kind of like Mulholland Drive. You sat there, trying to find deeper meanings. Were they there? Who knows? But it was fun while it was going on.
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http://drawergeek.blogspot.com/2007/06/sop...y-happened.html

Found this on a message board. If this is all true, I think people who hated that finale might do a 180. Wow.

"OK, at first I was really angry. I mean really, really angry. I can't believe though that no-one has posted by now what happened. The only thing I saw that was right, was that in the last scene we are seeing through Tony's eyes. Remember in the first season when Tony was speaking with Bobby...basically saying that you don't see your death happening?

So here is what I found out. The guy at the bar is also credited as Nikki Leotardo. The same actor played him in the first part of season 6 during a brief sit down concerning the future of Vito. That wasn't that long ago. Apparently, he is the nephew of Phil. Phil's brother Nikki Senior was killed in 1976 in a car accident. Absolutely Genius!!!! David Chase is truly rewarding the true fans who pay attention to detail.

So the point would have been that life continues and we may never know the end of the Sopranos. But if you pay attention to the history, you will find that all the answers lie in the characters in the restaurant. The trucker was the brother of the guy who was robbed by Christopher in Season 2. Remember the DVD players? The trucker had to identify the body. The boy scouts were in the train store and the black guys at the end were the ones who tried to kill Tony and only clipped him in the ear (was that season 2 or 3?).

Absolutely incredible!!!! There were three people in the restaurant who had reason to kill Tony and then it just ends. This was Chase's way of proving that he will not escape his past. It will not go on forever despite that he would like it to "don't stop". Not the fans!!! Tony would like it to keep going but just as we have to say goodbye, so does he. No more Tony and I guess we are supposed to be happy that Meadow didn't get clipped as well (she would have been between the shooter and Tony) since she is the only one worth a crap in that family.

Thank you David Chase for making it so obscure that I feel bad for hating you at first. Absolutely amazing!!!!"

ALSO:

"I feel much better about this finale after watching it a second time. In the split second before the screen goes blank you can see panic rushing over Tony's face and he also seems to be reaching under the table for something."

:ptts: Did that author just make up all those connections? Are is it actually documented that they were who he says they were?
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http://drawergeek.blogspot.com/2007/06/sop...y-happened.html

Found this on a message board. If this is all true, I think people who hated that finale might do a 180. Wow.

"OK, at first I was really angry. I mean really, really angry. I can't believe though that no-one has posted by now what happened. The only thing I saw that was right, was that in the last scene we are seeing through Tony's eyes. Remember in the first season when Tony was speaking with Bobby...basically saying that you don't see your death happening?

So here is what I found out. The guy at the bar is also credited as Nikki Leotardo. The same actor played him in the first part of season 6 during a brief sit down concerning the future of Vito. That wasn't that long ago. Apparently, he is the nephew of Phil. Phil's brother Nikki Senior was killed in 1976 in a car accident. Absolutely Genius!!!! David Chase is truly rewarding the true fans who pay attention to detail.

So the point would have been that life continues and we may never know the end of the Sopranos. But if you pay attention to the history, you will find that all the answers lie in the characters in the restaurant. The trucker was the brother of the guy who was robbed by Christopher in Season 2. Remember the DVD players? The trucker had to identify the body. The boy scouts were in the train store and the black guys at the end were the ones who tried to kill Tony and only clipped him in the ear (was that season 2 or 3?).

Absolutely incredible!!!! There were three people in the restaurant who had reason to kill Tony and then it just ends. This was Chase's way of proving that he will not escape his past. It will not go on forever despite that he would like it to "don't stop". Not the fans!!! Tony would like it to keep going but just as we have to say goodbye, so does he. No more Tony and I guess we are supposed to be happy that Meadow didn't get clipped as well (she would have been between the shooter and Tony) since she is the only one worth a crap in that family.

Thank you David Chase for making it so obscure that I feel bad for hating you at first. Absolutely amazing!!!!"

ALSO:

"I feel much better about this finale after watching it a second time. In the split second before the screen goes blank you can see panic rushing over Tony's face and he also seems to be reaching under the table for something."

There is always a lot of this type of stuff in the Lost thread.

Basically, I never believe someone is someone from an earlier episode unless I can compare pics side by side.

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I think all the people in the restaurant, particularly the suspicious ones, are meant to be reminiscient of people from the past, but not actually are. Basically, Tony sees everyone as a potential threat to take him out and has to think twice every time he looks at anyone. He has to always be ready.-QG

Probably a pretty good theory.
Also suitable for 6 alternate endings on DVD :ptts:I'm sure you can many of the storylines, particularly those of people who'd have a beef with Tony, and find strings in this episode to take them back. I noted some of the particulars that would seem to foreshadow a "Busto comes back and takes Tony away from his family - or hell, even Tony's family away from him". I'm sure other things probably would trace a thread that ends in "Member Only Jacket Guy" taking out Tony. Basically he does an Oliver Stone JFK-Style deal and leaves evidence for many possible endings and has people like us throw out the theories, the whys and the wherefores.-QG
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Anyone else bitter that they wasted so much time with the ridiculous dream sequence episodes? I absolutely hated those.

I loved them. :ptts:
you did? wow. i thought they were brutal.
I'll still make love to you.
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Just fan fiction--none of these 3 people cited are correct--the dude in the Members Only jacket was just cast for this scene according to the interview with him before. And all black people don't look alike , these are different guys.

It's just like the jukebox said: "Any Way You Like Want It"

To you and me and many folks this is true. To Tony Soprano? I don't think so.

-QG

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Anyone else bitter that they wasted so much time with the ridiculous dream sequence episodes? I absolutely hated those.

I loved them. :shrug:
you did? wow. i thought they were brutal.
I'll still make love to you. To me, those episodes were kind of like Mulholland Drive. You sat there, trying to find deeper meanings. Were they there? Who knows? But it was fun while it was going on.
I had NO fun with them and was angry whenever they slipped into them.

That said, :BONER:!!!1

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AJ's story mirrors the thematic incompleteness. Guy finally grows into an identity and someone maybe sort of interesting in the vein of an idiot savant Hamlet when he shifts on a dime and is placated by the model girlfriend, the BMW and the movie job. To me that spit in the face of where it was all headed. But maybe the point is a cynical one -- that the meaningless grind and the doubts and fears and questioning never has a pay off. We shift and change and push through adversity only to have it all end up meaningless and a big joke with the only thing left when we go punchlines that haven't been sprung.

Thanks Chase. Now I'm battling depression.

Bingo. For once, an episode title that meant something, "Made in America" as America in decline.

Sepinwall nails it.

Good read.

FYI...Sepinwall is going to be on Jim Rome in about 5 minutes.

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I didn't care much for the very end, but there were several moments in the finale that I did really like:

the tour guide on the bus saying how Little Italy has shrunk to one block of restaurants and shops; right after that, Butchie starts walking down the street while talking on his cell, and then comes to the horrific realization that he has wandered into Chinatown.

AJ's immediate 180 from suicidal "the world is going to hell" crybaby to model-dating, Bimmer-driving movie executive.

Carmela's abrupt reaction to Meadow's screw-up friend going to med school, which is where she wanted Meadow to be all along

Tony and Carmela talking with the therapist about AJ's problems, when Tony turns the session into a discussion about his own problems with his mother

agent Harris cheering for the NJ mob as if he was rooting for an underdog football team

Carlo's son telling his dad about the "roast pork", foreshadowing Carlo's flip to the feds

the cat obsessing over Chris and antagonizing Paulie, much as Chris used to do

Tony's lawyer watching the nekked Bing girls on the monitor even while counseling Tony on his impending indictment

personally, and I think this was mentioned earlier in this thread, I think the last scene is intended to show that for the rest of his life, Tony will always have to be on his guard. the tension that we all felt while watching the final scene is the tension that Tony will ALWAYS have, because he'll never know who or where the final shot will come from.

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Bobby to Tony on the boat earlier in the season that Tony flashed back to last episode, "You probably don't even hear when it happens, it just goes black".Just another thing to think about.

no harm done as there's been a lot of posts to sort through since last night's episode aired, but that might be the 30th time that has been mentioned in here already.
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I didn't care much for the very end, but there were several moments in the finale that I did really like:

the tour guide on the bus saying how Little Italy has shrunk to one block of restaurants and shops; right after that, Butchie starts walking down the street while talking on his cell, and then comes to the horrific realization that he has wandered into Chinatown.

AJ's immediate 180 from suicidal "the world is going to hell" crybaby to model-dating, Bimmer-driving movie executive.

Carmela's abrupt reaction to Meadow's screw-up friend going to med school, which is where she wanted Meadow to be all along

Tony and Carmela talking with the therapist about AJ's problems, when Tony turns the session into a discussion about his own problems with his mother

agent Harris cheering for the NJ mob as if he was rooting for an underdog football team

Carlo's son telling his dad about the "roast pork", foreshadowing Carlo's flip to the feds

the cat obsessing over Chris and antagonizing Paulie, much as Chris used to do

Tony's lawyer watching the nekked Bing girls on the monitor even while counseling Tony on his impending indictment

personally, and I think this was mentioned earlier in this thread, I think the last scene is intended to show that for the rest of his life, Tony will always have to be on his guard. the tension that we all felt while watching the final scene is the tension that Tony will ALWAYS have, because he'll never know who or where the final shot will come from.

I agree with all of this, but still am disapointed. The episode was average at best, and jumped the shark in the final scene. The build up and sudden stop would have made a great season finale, but fails as a series finale.
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Apparently Chase has a spin-off in the works: "Macavity and Walnuts"

Macavity (the cat in the finale "Made in America") and Paulie Walnuts are thrown together in a classic "buddy comedy" where they eventually resolve their differences and learn to appreciate the other's strengths. Although details of the planned show are sketchy as of now, there is some speculation that the show will hint that Macavity is actually the reincarnation of Christopher Moltisanti.

So far Tony Sirico is signed on, as are John Ventimiglia, Dan Grimaldi and Jerry Adler. Macavity has not yet been cast.

Chase expects "Macavity and Walnuts" to premiere on HBO in June of 2009.

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Tony and Carmela talking with the therapist about AJ's problems, when Tony turns the session into a discussion about his own problems with his mother
this was most telling about the whole sociopath storyline. classic how he was turning it about his again.
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With everyone seeming to think that the end of the show is going to be about Tony dying, going to jail or his “downfall,” what about the last few episodes building up to something where Tony becomes more powerful and ruthless and does something like take out Phil and whoever else stands in his way. So after all the life-altering experiences and the therapy, etc. Tony just simply comes to grips with who he is and embraces it. ("I get it.")

Just saying that after all the other things people have complained about Chase doing, I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if he ended things on a simple and understated note that is going to piss off a lot of fans.

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You're calling the ending simple and understated????????
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Apparently Chase has a spin-off in the works: "Macavity and Walnuts"Macavity (the cat in the finale "Made in America") and Paulie Walnuts are thrown together in a classic "buddy comedy" where they eventually resolve their differences and learn to appreciate the other's strengths. Although details of the planned show are sketchy as of now, there is some speculation that the show will hint that Macavity is actually the reincarnation of Christopher Moltisanti. So far Tony Sirico is signed on, as are John Ventimiglia, Dan Grimaldi and Jerry Adler. Macavity has not yet been cast.Chase expects "Macavity and Walnuts" to premiere on HBO in June of 2009.

best cat-villain since Toonces.
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Apparently Chase has a spin-off in the works: "Macavity and Walnuts"Macavity (the cat in the finale "Made in America") and Paulie Walnuts are thrown together in a classic "buddy comedy" where they eventually resolve their differences and learn to appreciate the other's strengths. Although details of the planned show are sketchy as of now, there is some speculation that the show will hint that Macavity is actually the reincarnation of Christopher Moltisanti. So far Tony Sirico is signed on, as are John Ventimiglia, Dan Grimaldi and Jerry Adler. Macavity has not yet been cast.Chase expects "Macavity and Walnuts" to premiere on HBO in June of 2009.

best cat-villain since Toonces.
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I was a bit miffled by the final scene

no no its art and you just don't get what the sopranos is all about :bs:
I think this sums it up. The "brilliant" David Chase gave us a king with no clothes but his pseudo-intellectual minions get to tell all of us about how pretty they really are.
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I was a bit miffled by the final scene

no no its art and you just don't get what the sopranos is all about :bs:
I think this sums it up. The "brilliant" David Chase gave us a king with no clothes but his pseudo-intellectual minions get to tell all of us about how pretty they really are.
:goodposting: some people liked it. some didn't. who cares?
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I was a bit miffled by the final scene

no no its art and you just don't get what the sopranos is all about :thumbup:
I think this sums it up. The "brilliant" David Chase gave us a king with no clothes but his pseudo-intellectual minions get to tell all of us about how pretty they really are.
Nobody here is claiming to be a pseudo-intellectual because of the Sopranos. I don't claim to be smarter than you, although the fact I figured out the basis for the show after 86 ####ing episodes does tend to push the scale in my favor a bit. Edited by Capella
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I was a bit miffled by the final scene

I loved Tony's made up words and phrases. Like "miffled" and "Illumunate me."
said something like "my son AJ is making a molehill out of this terrorist threat" to agent Harris in the beginning. I laughed.
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