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"Any Way You Want It" was the other song on the jukebox, right below "Don't Stop Believing".In the biz, we call that "quality proppage". It's tiny things like that which really can make a scene. It's intentional and probably hand-picked by Chase (note it's a custom-made insert for the jukebox, it's not a standard one or it would have the code numbers printed like the one above. Also, the coloring is a bit off.). The way it worked is really neat--the name of the band is "Journey", and the names of the two songs really fit the ending.Any Way You Want It was the bad Journey song used in Caddyshack. Don't Stop Believin' was last night's bad jukebox song.videoguy505 said:Aaron Rudnicki said:Just fan fiction--none of these 3 people cited are correct--the dude in the Members Only jacket was just cast for this scene according to the interview with him before. And all black people don't look alike, these are different guys.
It's just like the jukebox said: "Any Way You Want It"
I disagree. I saw the choice of song as having nothing to do with plot and everything to do with the statement he was making in the episode/series.Screengrab Link
"Any Way You Want It" was the other song on the jukebox, right below "Don't Stop Believing".In the biz, we call that "quality proppage". It's tiny things like that which really can make a scene. It's intentional and probably hand-picked by Chase (note it's a custom-made insert for the jukebox, it's not a standard one or it would have the code numbers printed like the one above. Also, the coloring is a bit off.). The way it worked is really neat--the name of the band is "Journey", and the names of the two songs really fit the ending.Any Way You Want It was the bad Journey song used in Caddyshack. Don't Stop Believin' was last night's bad jukebox song.videoguy505 said:Aaron Rudnicki said:
It's just like the jukebox said: "Any Way You Want It"
It's telling us what we're supposed to do--make our own ending, any way we want it.
Why? Maybe the only reason to fade to black was Tony getting whacked. There are many reasons why that theory stands up.
nope. The guy going into the bathroom was an obvious red herring by Chase with a direct Godfather reference, as was all the rest of the scene (the jerky parking by Meadow, the seemingly out of place gang bangers, etc etc).
I guess this is at the heart of the issue for me. We shouldn't need Chase to tell us; the story itself should tell us. This reminds me of "The X-Files" when Scully got pregnant (the storyline that essentially ended the series; but that's another issue). Chris Carter and Frank Spotnitz (the exec producers) played the game of Was Mulder the father or not throughout an entire season. They thought they were being clever when the fact is their ambiguity annoyed the very fans they were trying to entertain. So in the season finale there's a big emotional scene where Mulder and Scully fawn over her baby and the two of them kiss for the first time.Fade to black.When interviewed, Spotnitz said the scene was meant to portray that Mulder was indeed the father of Scully's baby. The problem is, the two of them never acknowledged that fact onscreen. It was all implied. The ambiguity they thought they were being so clever in terms of introducing merely served to piss off a large segment of their fan base.I see a similar reaction here with the ambiguity of the final shot. Now this doesn't mean I need to have every little thing explained to me with a nice little bow on top. I'm fine with allowing for viewer interpretation of events and storylines. But the most important storyline of the series shouldn't end with ambiguity in my opinion. We shouldn't need interviews with David Chase to tell us what the story itself should have clearly presented.
My Hollywood buddy said the same thing to me today. He was betting that Chase shot 3 endings on the premise of trying to obscure what really happened but intended all along to cut this one off early in the editing room to surprise everybody.
When he first opens the song selection list, I noticed the song dead center on the right page was "This Magic Moment""Any Way You Want It" was the other song on the jukebox, right below "Don't Stop Believing".In the biz, we call that "quality proppage". It's tiny things like that which really can make a scene. It's intentional and probably hand-picked by Chase (note it's a custom-made insert for the jukebox, it's not a standard one or it would have the code numbers printed like the one above. Also, the coloring is a bit off.). The way it worked is really neat--the name of the band is "Journey", and the names of the two songs really fit the ending.Any Way You Want It was the bad Journey song used in Caddyshack. Don't Stop Believin' was last night's bad jukebox song.videoguy505 said:Aaron Rudnicki said:Just fan fiction--none of these 3 people cited are correct--the dude in the Members Only jacket was just cast for this scene according to the interview with him before. And all black people don't look alike, these are different guys.
It's just like the jukebox said: "Any Way You Want It"
It's telling us what we're supposed to do--make our own ending, any way we want it.
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poor guy. He can cry all over his $48M .
poor guy. He can cry all over his $48M .
Plus zillions more from syndication and merchandising.
Johnny Detroit said:
at the bolded part.Tony practically BEGGED Davey not to get into the poker game. You're right about everything else in your post, but Scatino needs to take all of the responsibility for the bust out. Or do you also side with people who sue tobacco companies because they got cancer after smoking for 30 years?
Maybe.But I think Gandolfini has a decent chance at a high-profile movie career. Before the Sopranos he'd done well as a supporting actor in films such as "True Romance", "Get Shorty", "A Civil Action". (Anyone remember him in the remake of "Twelve Angry Men"? Odd that him and William L. Peterson were probably the lowest ranked actors in that film--even behind Tony Danza--but now both lead highly successful tv shows).
I think you are overvaluing Gandolfini's career prior to the Sopranos, but I agree, he has a chance to carve out a nice career post HBO series.
Just to update, my wife went into labor the next day. Our beautiful baby daughter Clare Kristine was born yesterday at 2:56pm, 8 lbs. 11 oz. Wife, baby and I are doing wonderful.Also had italian for dinner tonight in honor of episode "last".Will put the kid to sleep in 20 mins then it's peace and quiet til showtime. Gonna miss this show. Farewell Sopranos
Oh by the way, my wife is 9 months pregnant with our 2nd child and is ready to burst. $50 says her water breaks at 8:57pm.
Congratulations.Just to update, my wife went into labor the next day. Our beautiful baby daughter Clare Kristine was born yesterday at 2:56pm, 8 lbs. 11 oz. Wife, baby and I are doing wonderful.Also had italian for dinner tonight in honor of episode "last".
1) It's spelled "Claire."2) Claire is a fat girl's name.Our beautiful baby daughter Clare Kristine was born yesterday at 2:56pm, 8 lbs. 11 oz. Wife, baby and I are doing wonderful.
Thanks for the greeting card.1) It's spelled "Claire."2) Claire is a fat girl's name.Our beautiful baby daughter Clare Kristine was born yesterday at 2:56pm, 8 lbs. 11 oz. Wife, baby and I are doing wonderful.
Oh by the way, Heroes down?
Congratulations. I'm just giving you a preview of what you and your kid will hear like 3 billion times.Thanks for the greeting card.1) It's spelled "Claire."2) Claire is a fat girl's name.Our beautiful baby daughter Clare Kristine was born yesterday at 2:56pm, 8 lbs. 11 oz. Wife, baby and I are doing wonderful.
It's a Breakfast Club quote...but sleepless new dads get free passes.Thanks for the greeting card.1) It's spelled "Claire."2) Claire is a fat girl's name.Our beautiful baby daughter Clare Kristine was born yesterday at 2:56pm, 8 lbs. 11 oz. Wife, baby and I are doing wonderful.
Congratulations.
He didn't see himself sitting in the restaurant. They show Tony walk in and look around the restaurant and they cut back to a shot of Tony at the entrance. The next shot shows Tony sitting at the table. I'd buy this theory if they never cut back to Tony before they show him sitting at the table by himself.Wheelhouse said:I'm glad I wasn't the only one who noticed that. I thought I was seeing things. WTF was that all about?
you should try not being a jerkoff once or twice.1) It's spelled "Claire."2) Claire is a fat girl's name.Our beautiful baby daughter Clare Kristine was born yesterday at 2:56pm, 8 lbs. 11 oz. Wife, baby and I are doing wonderful.
seemed like it was going to be dream sequenceWheelhouse said:I'm glad I wasn't the only one who noticed that. I thought I was seeing things. WTF was that all about?
It was a dream sequence. The whole damn show. Kevin woke up at the end and the screen went black.seemed like it was going to be dream sequenceWheelhouse said:I'm glad I wasn't the only one who noticed that. I thought I was seeing things. WTF was that all about?
Tony entering and Tony sitting down had on different shirts. Tony entering had a black leather jacket with a red or maroon shirt. Tony sitting had a black and white shirt with no jacket.He didn't see himself sitting in the restaurant. They show Tony walk in and look around the restaurant and they cut back to a shot of Tony at the entrance. The next shot shows Tony sitting at the table. I'd buy this theory if they never cut back to Tony before they show him sitting at the table by himself.Wheelhouse said:
That is actually funny. This is what I thought was going to happen when i was watching and checked the TIVO time and it was on the last minute, I thought Chase was going to pull a Dallas and have Tony wake up as Kevin and that be the end.It was a dream sequence. The whole damn show. Kevin woke up at the end and the screen went black.seemed like it was going to be dream sequenceWheelhouse said:
You should post more in this thread.Some people think Tony was shot at the end and that's why the screen went to black?
That's nuts.
Why would "Members Only" guy need to go into the bathroom to get a gun? Forget the nod to The Godfather, there was no reason for him to do so.
BTW, I liked how the screen went to black just as Steve Perry was in the middle of the song "Don't stop"
[cut]
Don't stop -
But Chase did stop. The series.
I re-watched it last night, and that final scene in particular a few times. I don't think he "saw himself", as much as the camera cut from him looking in to him sitting there.Wheelhouse said:
Tony entering and Tony sitting down had on different shirts. Tony entering had a black leather jacket with a red or maroon shirt. Tony sitting had a black and white shirt with no jacket.He didn't see himself sitting in the restaurant. They show Tony walk in and look around the restaurant and they cut back to a shot of Tony at the entrance. The next shot shows Tony sitting at the table. I'd buy this theory if they never cut back to Tony before they show him sitting at the table by himself.Wheelhouse said:I'm glad I wasn't the only one who noticed that. I thought I was seeing things. WTF was that all about?
It was a little awkward viewing it because the leather jacket was zipped up, leaving only a little bit of Tony's patterned shirt visible--making it appear to be a solid color shirt. In fact, it was the same shirt throughout the end sequence.
Agreed.Plus, he took off the jacket he was wearing when he entered the restaurant. When he was seated, the fact that the shirt he had on had different colored sleeves led me to believe there was a continuity error (or something) so I rewound and watched him enter the restaurant again. (I may look at this again tonight to be sure, but I'm fairly certain he didn't "see himself sitting there.")I re-watched it last night, and that final scene in particular a few times. I don't think he "saw himself", as much as the camera cut from him looking in to him sitting there.Wheelhouse said:
You should post more in this thread.Some people think Tony was shot at the end and that's why the screen went to black?
That's nuts.
Why would "Members Only" guy need to go into the bathroom to get a gun? Forget the nod to The Godfather, there was no reason for him to do so.
BTW, I liked how the screen went to black just as Steve Perry was in the middle of the song "Don't stop"
[cut]
Don't stop -
But Chase did stop. The series.
Tony did not have different shirts on. I went back to check from where he was with Junior, and it was the same shirt until the end. When he wore the leather, you only saw the gray panel down the front of the shirt. In the diner, with the jacket off, you saw the print on either side of the gray panel. He didn't see himself sitting there.. He came in and looked around, because again, Tony still looks over his shoulder at all times. Maybe also looking to see if his family had arrived yet.Tony entering and Tony sitting down had on different shirts. Tony entering had a black leather jacket with a red or maroon shirt. Tony sitting had a black and white shirt with no jacket.He didn't see himself sitting in the restaurant. They show Tony walk in and look around the restaurant and they cut back to a shot of Tony at the entrance. The next shot shows Tony sitting at the table. I'd buy this theory if they never cut back to Tony before they show him sitting at the table by himself.Wheelhouse said:
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You're right, I was wrong. It sure seemed like different shirts though.Tony did not have different shirts on. I went back to check from where he was with Junior, and it was the same shirt until the end. When he wore the leather, you only saw the gray panel down the front of the shirt. In the diner, with the jacket off, you saw the print on either side of the gray panel. He didn't see himself sitting there.. He came in and looked around, because again, Tony still looks over his shoulder at all times. Maybe also looking to see if his family had arrived yet.Tony entering and Tony sitting down had on different shirts. Tony entering had a black leather jacket with a red or maroon shirt. Tony sitting had a black and white shirt with no jacket.He didn't see himself sitting in the restaurant. They show Tony walk in and look around the restaurant and they cut back to a shot of Tony at the entrance. The next shot shows Tony sitting at the table. I'd buy this theory if they never cut back to Tony before they show him sitting at the table by himself.Wheelhouse said:
