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ren hoek
Footballguy
Yeah. Hard to believe that the 60's were 50 years ago for some reason.
RudiStein
*Not really a bail bondsman
The twist?
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RudiStein
*Not really a bail bondsman
What's weird is that I was reading some trivia and the info on Joan's driver's license was mentioned. I just happened to notice that her birthday is Feb 24.
Encyclopedia Brown
Footballguy
You think Don would have hit his eighties, or would the smoking and drinking kept him from seeing Reagan's second term?
RudiStein
*Not really a bail bondsman
Dude would be well into his 80s by now. Hard to tell because nobody is really sure when he was born.
ren hoek
Footballguy
Thank you.
Encyclopedia Brown
Footballguy
I thought it was established that he was born in the summer of 1925.
corpcow
Footballguy
Really? I don't find her attractive at all.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
scoobygang
Footballguy
My understanding is that AMC/Lionsgate "own" the rights to the show. Weiner can't take the show elsewhere. AMC could bring in another showrunner (like what happened when Sorkin left the West Wing).
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
Ewww.Although from what I've read Weiner's as much a singular driving force behind a show as anyone ever has been on any show. If he left the show behind to create a new program for a different network I would be 100% on board with whatever he chose to do next. And I would have much less interest in Mad Men after his departure. And I think most fans would feel the same as I do, especially if it leaked that the reason for the dispute was that they wanted longer commercial breaks and product integration, and then the show adopted those things. So I think Weiner holds most of the cards, and hopefully AMC knows that.
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
Mad Men will return in 2012, but maybe not with Matthew Weiner
The push to make a fifth season of Mad Men—which everyone from its actors to its fans is bent on willing into being—has slowly unraveled into its own soap operatic off-screen drama, as negotiations between AMC and creator Matthew Weiner continue to argue over the terms of his return. Earlier this morning, Deadline posted a report that put the blame mostly on AMC for pushing Weiner to agree to integrating product placement, cutting two minutes from each episode to make room for more commercials, and scrapping two regular cast members, all in order to save and/or generate more money. That report obviously set off plenty of fan outrage: Obviously, no one wants to lose another member of the Mad Men family when many are still pining for Paul Kinsey, and is there a greater symbol for insidious corporate influence on artistic integrity than product placement?
However, Vulture has now posted a slightly more tempered response to Deadline's report, pointing out that product placement is already a major part of Mad Men's world—even if it's done with a slight satirical edge—and the network is likely simply asking for that to continue, or worst case scenario, that Weiner consider structuring even more of the firm's fictional accounts around its actual sponsors. Yes, it's still sort of tacky, but given that Mad Men is all about advertising, it's hardly as egregious as, say, the characters on Heroes mentioning the words "Nissan Versa" every five minutes. Vulture also confirms that all of Mad Men's principal cast members are signed on for season five, meaning any cuts would likely come from outside the "core cast." We're not sure where Ken Cosgrove (from accounts) falls on that spectrum, but so far it doesn't seem as though anyone key to the show's storyline is in danger.
But while Vulture's sources say that AMC has made every effort to appease Weiner—and in fact, has offered him $30 million to return, making him one of the highest-paid showrunners on television—Weiner has basically broken off talks, and is "currently on a ski holiday," pushing the negotiations well past the reasonable deadline to return to creating new episodes. And unfortunately, it's looking increasingly like AMC is willing to move on without him: The network has just issued a statement reading, "AMC has officially authorized production of season 5 of Mad Men, triggering our option with Lionsgate (Mad Men's production company). While we are getting a later start than in years past due to ongoing, key non-cast negotiations, Mad Men will be back for a fifth season in early 2012." You'll notice there's no mention of Weiner anywhere in there, with the implication being that the show will return with or without him—and you can probably expect to hear a definitive answer on that just as soon as Weiner gets off the slopes.
The push to make a fifth season of Mad Men—which everyone from its actors to its fans is bent on willing into being—has slowly unraveled into its own soap operatic off-screen drama, as negotiations between AMC and creator Matthew Weiner continue to argue over the terms of his return. Earlier this morning, Deadline posted a report that put the blame mostly on AMC for pushing Weiner to agree to integrating product placement, cutting two minutes from each episode to make room for more commercials, and scrapping two regular cast members, all in order to save and/or generate more money. That report obviously set off plenty of fan outrage: Obviously, no one wants to lose another member of the Mad Men family when many are still pining for Paul Kinsey, and is there a greater symbol for insidious corporate influence on artistic integrity than product placement?
However, Vulture has now posted a slightly more tempered response to Deadline's report, pointing out that product placement is already a major part of Mad Men's world—even if it's done with a slight satirical edge—and the network is likely simply asking for that to continue, or worst case scenario, that Weiner consider structuring even more of the firm's fictional accounts around its actual sponsors. Yes, it's still sort of tacky, but given that Mad Men is all about advertising, it's hardly as egregious as, say, the characters on Heroes mentioning the words "Nissan Versa" every five minutes. Vulture also confirms that all of Mad Men's principal cast members are signed on for season five, meaning any cuts would likely come from outside the "core cast." We're not sure where Ken Cosgrove (from accounts) falls on that spectrum, but so far it doesn't seem as though anyone key to the show's storyline is in danger.
But while Vulture's sources say that AMC has made every effort to appease Weiner—and in fact, has offered him $30 million to return, making him one of the highest-paid showrunners on television—Weiner has basically broken off talks, and is "currently on a ski holiday," pushing the negotiations well past the reasonable deadline to return to creating new episodes. And unfortunately, it's looking increasingly like AMC is willing to move on without him: The network has just issued a statement reading, "AMC has officially authorized production of season 5 of Mad Men, triggering our option with Lionsgate (Mad Men's production company). While we are getting a later start than in years past due to ongoing, key non-cast negotiations, Mad Men will be back for a fifth season in early 2012." You'll notice there's no mention of Weiner anywhere in there, with the implication being that the show will return with or without him—and you can probably expect to hear a definitive answer on that just as soon as Weiner gets off the slopes.
ren hoek
Footballguy
There is no hope for you.
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
I don't care about product placements. This is a show about advertising.
But this effort to low ball Wiener is ludicrous. With Breaking Bad and Mad Men, AMC has positioned itself as a cable drama powerhouse capable of competing with the likes of HBO and Showtime. But to quibble over money seems insane. There's a lot more at stake here than money. Man Men's current and future success elevates AMC far above any #### network drama.
But this effort to low ball Wiener is ludicrous. With Breaking Bad and Mad Men, AMC has positioned itself as a cable drama powerhouse capable of competing with the likes of HBO and Showtime. But to quibble over money seems insane. There's a lot more at stake here than money. Man Men's current and future success elevates AMC far above any #### network drama.
patrickmcgroin
Footballguy
They are gonna F up and it won't be back at all. 
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
They're screwing with Breaking Bad too?
bushdocda
Footballguy
How about that.
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
Great to hear the whole cast will be back as well! Should be worth the wait.
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
ren hoek
Footballguy
Encyclopedia Brown
Footballguy
January Jones is pregnant and she is keeping secret the name of the father.
Rumor has it the father is either Jason Sudekis from SNL or Matthew Vaughn the director of "X-Men" who is married to Claudia Schiffer and already has three kids.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1391877/Pregnant-January-Jones-puts-brave-face-X-Men-director-Matthew-Vaughn-categorically-denies-hes-daddy.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
Rumor has it the father is either Jason Sudekis from SNL or Matthew Vaughn the director of "X-Men" who is married to Claudia Schiffer and already has three kids.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1391877/Pregnant-January-Jones-puts-brave-face-X-Men-director-Matthew-Vaughn-categorically-denies-hes-daddy.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
Sconch
Footballguy
Pretty sure the baby is mine.
corpcow
Footballguy
It may be the nose. Dunno. But doesn't do it for me.
Please See Mine
Footballguy
Schiffer face looking a little rough.zOMG....can't wait to find out
Please See Mine
Footballguy
Re-watching on netflix streaming. 'Babylon' (ep 6) is so amazing. Starts with don and betty lying together, sharing intimate thoughts. Then shortly thereafter, he has lunch with rachel, as if he wants her. Then he goes to midge's and he and she and roy all go to the night club. Plus the first scenes between roger and joan and the first time peggys talents are noticed by freddie rumson. Unbelievable episode.
Encyclopedia Brown
Footballguy
Matthew Weiner did an interview recently where he said that knows how the show is going to end.
http://popwatch.ew.com/2011/11/15/mad-men-ending-matthew-weiner/
Apple Jack
Footballguy
Made me think of Six Feet Under's finale, which is the best I've seen.
Sconch
Footballguy
Cool. 1927 it is then.
Charlie Frown
Footballguy
3 episodes in season one. I am still waiting on something to happen. I will give it a full season for sure.
Apple Jack
Footballguy
Don't make any judgments until you see somebody on a lawnmower.
jwb
Footballguy
Nothing happens. And everything happens. This is way more a character-driven show - and also a slice of time show - than a plot-driven show. There's no "OMG, can't wait to see what happens next week".
Sconch
Footballguy
It is for me
Apple Jack
Footballguy
Yep. There is unresolved tension quite a bit.It is for me
jwb
Footballguy
The drinking... I don't know how accurate that is. But I can assure you that in the late 60's and 70's (my point of reference), prettymuch everyone smoked everywhere, all the time.
Apple Jack
Footballguy
The drinking is accurate.
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