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Thanks for the links Faust. I still tear up a bit reading about 21. What could have been and all that....

Eleven incredible Sean Taylor stories

I have avoided this thread like the plague but I just can't not post on here. Sean Taylor was one of the all time best to ever wear a Canes Jersey...his NFL career cut short unfortunately. As a life

'Go ahead and hit your head against the wall. I do, often, about this subject. I'm sick of all the useless deaths, aren't you? That a young man like Sean Taylor, at the height of his talents and not even experiencing most of life, should die in this manner is a senseless tragedy. There is no way to separate that tragedy from criminals' easy access to guns. It has to stop. Far too many young people are dead, especially in urban areas. I may be the only one writing about it on this thread, but there are lots of people who agree with me. The violence has got to stop.

We all want to see the violence stop, but the record of gun confiscation in Canada, the UK, and Australia shows it actually increases crime, particularly violent crime, and doesnt do much to reduce crime via firearms (if at all). The states that have gone to concealed carry in the US have seen their crime rates drop faster than those that dont have it. The problem is there are people who DONT want to see the madness stop, and they are the ones who wont obey the gun laws. Instead they will have all of us at their mercy unless a cop happens to be 5 feet away. Firearms level the playing field, and unfortunately there is just no way to quit the game. It would appear to be a tragic part of human nature. If you think gun prohibition is realistic see how well the other things we have outlawed have been kept out of the wrong hands. Is it particularly hard to get ahold of cocaine in this nation? Keeping guns away from outlaws would be even harder. Edited by mbuehner
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Big time Redskins fan and I'm really upset over this. Sean Taylor had his troubles in the past, but he was finally settling down both on and off the field. Coming into his own. Truly tragic.

Something like this puts things into perspective, sadly enough.

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Say what you will, but the guy is a known criminal, living the "thug" lifestyle. Eventually, someone is going to get hurt, regardless of the situation. I repeat, it is sad that he died.

You haven't kept up with Sean Taylor's life and are speaking out of ignorance.
Yeah... yeah... yeah... he's a changed man, had a kid, turned his life around, found god. I got it. Doesn't really change my opinion.
Enjoy your timeout that is rightfully coming. You earned it.
Forget a timeout......I'd say ban. Joe warned earlier in the thread to be cool on this one and that's when we knew it was just a shooting and there was hope. A man died and you have these type of statements to say, quite frankly this kind of attitude isn't changed because you get a timeout. You don't deserve to post on these boards.Prayers and thoughts out to his family and friends.
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Radio says that the phone line was cut prior to the break-in. That sounds like a hit to me.

Yeah a hit :mellow: He was shot in the leg ( upper thigh actually ) He just got unlucky where the bullet went in and it severed that major artery. If it was a hit i would they aim a little higher.
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Say what you will, but the guy is a known criminal, living the "thug" lifestyle. Eventually, someone is going to get hurt, regardless of the situation. I repeat, it is sad that he died.

You haven't kept up with Sean Taylor's life and are speaking out of ignorance.
Yeah... yeah... yeah... he's a changed man, had a kid, turned his life around, found god. I got it. Doesn't really change my opinion.
Enjoy your timeout that is rightfully coming. You earned it.
Forget a timeout......I'd say ban. Joe warned earlier in the thread to be cool on this one and that's when we knew it was just a shooting and there was hope. A man died and you have these type of statements to say, quite frankly this kind of attitude isn't changed because you get a timeout. You don't deserve to post on these boards.Prayers and thoughts out to his family and friends.
I agree."Until we are all without sin, we can stop the pulpittin'"I encourage everyone to show their respects to Sean Taylor in their sigs.
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This whole thing sickens me. The fact it happened...just horrible. The fact that some people have absolutely no respect for other human beings. I don't care who you are, where you grew up, how much $$$ you make, how great you think your #### smells...this is sad and senseless. A GF/wife no longer has a husband. A baby girl no longer has a father. A group of brothers has lost one of their own. A group of coaches see a growing and maturing young life snuffed out. A wish we, as a group of fans could ALL feel saddened...but apparently some people didn't have strong/loving enough parenting to know when the time to simply say...

RIP S. Taylor....we barely knew ye.

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'Go ahead and hit your head against the wall. I do, often, about this subject. I'm sick of all the useless deaths, aren't you? That a young man like Sean Taylor, at the height of his talents and not even experiencing most of life, should die in this manner is a senseless tragedy. There is no way to separate that tragedy from criminals' easy access to guns. It has to stop. Far too many young people are dead, especially in urban areas. I may be the only one writing about it on this thread, but there are lots of people who agree with me. The violence has got to stop.

We all want to see the violence stop, but the record of gun confiscation in Canada, the UK, and Australia shows it actually increases crime, particularly violent crime, and doesnt do much to reduce crime via firearms (if at all). The states that have gone to concealed carry in the US have seen their crime rates drop faster than those that dont have it. The problem is there are people who DONT want to see the madness stop, and they are the ones who wont obey the gun laws. Instead they will have all of us at their mercy unless a cop happens to be 5 feet away. Firearms level the playing field, and unfortunately there is just no way to quit the game. It would appear to be a tragic part of human nature. If you think gun prohibition is realistic see how well the other things we have outlawed have been kept out of the wrong hands. Is it particularly hard to get ahold of cocaine in this nation? Keeping guns away from outlaws would be even harder.
You make fine points. Of course we've all heard all the arguments before. I am opposed to you on this subject, but I'm not going to bore you with my own arguments because you've heard all of them before, too. And we're getting nowhere. I admit situations like this one make me angry and frustrated at the way things are now. I don't want to restrict ANYTHING from good law-abiding citizens, if I can help it. But I'm tired of seeing these thugs get guns so easily, and we've got to find a way to stop that. I admit I don't know how...
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Radio says that the phone line was cut prior to the break-in. That sounds like a hit to me.

Yeah a hit :goodposting: He was shot in the leg ( upper thigh actually ) He just got unlucky where the bullet went in and it severed that major artery. If it was a hit i would they aim a little higher.
Yes, because all people out to kill someone are so extremely proficient with a handgun that a head or chest shot is automatic. Especially in a (likely) dark house right when you bust through a door to see someone wielding a machette.
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Say what you will, but the guy is a known criminal, living the "thug" lifestyle. Eventually, someone is going to get hurt, regardless of the situation. I repeat, it is sad that he died.

You haven't kept up with Sean Taylor's life and are speaking out of ignorance.
Yeah... yeah... yeah... he's a changed man, had a kid, turned his life around, found god. I got it. Doesn't really change my opinion.
Enjoy your timeout that is rightfully coming. You earned it.
Forget a timeout......I'd say ban. Joe warned earlier in the thread to be cool on this one and that's when we knew it was just a shooting and there was hope. A man died and you have these type of statements to say, quite frankly this kind of attitude isn't changed because you get a timeout. You don't deserve to post on these boards.Prayers and thoughts out to his family and friends.
While I agree Sean Taylor was a "thug" or at least tried to keep up the "thug" persona -- this homicide doesn't appear gang related or related to that. It looks like someone tried to rob his house and Sean woke up and got shot. Burglar was prolly just trying to wound him so he wouldn't be able to chase him but hit him in the wrong place. If he was trying to turn life around kudos to him -- but MO of him was he was one of the more shady characters in the NFL.
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Say what you will, but the guy is a known criminal, living the "thug" lifestyle. Eventually, someone is going to get hurt, regardless of the situation. I repeat, it is sad that he died.

You haven't kept up with Sean Taylor's life and are speaking out of ignorance.
Yeah... yeah... yeah... he's a changed man, had a kid, turned his life around, found god. I got it. Doesn't really change my opinion.
Enjoy your timeout that is rightfully coming. You earned it.
Forget a timeout......I'd say ban. Joe warned earlier in the thread to be cool on this one and that's when we knew it was just a shooting and there was hope. A man died and you have these type of statements to say, quite frankly this kind of attitude isn't changed because you get a timeout. You don't deserve to post on these boards.Prayers and thoughts out to his family and friends.
Can everyone just drop the sensitivity level about three notches? Sean Taylor dying was a tragedy... but often times tragedies spark discussion about what may have prevented them... I don't think anyone here was being malicious. We're not at the funeral here, we're on a message board.At the same time, you can't blame the victim. Whatever Sean Taylor did in the past, he certainly never killed anyone, and nobody deserves that fate. 24 is so young. Losing three active NFL players in a calender year seems nuts... the only other times I remember (off the top of my head) active guys dying in my lifetime (a quarter century) were Jerome Brown and Fred Lane.... though I'm sure there are several more. So much promise. Terrible.
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I was really shocked to read this. I really thought he was going to pull through. He was already one of the best in the league at just 24. Wow.

Thia has got to be the craziest season ever. 4 Players dead and 1 nearly killed on the field. It makes it even worse he has a kid.

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Say what you will, but the guy is a known criminal, living the "thug" lifestyle. Eventually, someone is going to get hurt, regardless of the situation. I repeat, it is sad that he died.

You haven't kept up with Sean Taylor's life and are speaking out of ignorance.
Yeah... yeah... yeah... he's a changed man, had a kid, turned his life around, found god. I got it. Doesn't really change my opinion.
Enjoy your timeout that is rightfully coming. You earned it.
Forget a timeout......I'd say ban. Joe warned earlier in the thread to be cool on this one and that's when we knew it was just a shooting and there was hope. A man died and you have these type of statements to say, quite frankly this kind of attitude isn't changed because you get a timeout. You don't deserve to post on these boards.Prayers and thoughts out to his family and friends.
Can everyone just drop the sensitivity level about three notches? Sean Taylor dying was a tragedy... but often times tragedies spark discussion about what may have prevented them... I don't think anyone here was being malicious. We're not at the funeral here, we're on a message board.At the same time, you can't blame the victim. Whatever Sean Taylor did in the past, he certainly never killed anyone, and nobody deserves that fate. 24 is so young. Losing three active NFL players in a calender year seems nuts... the only other times I remember (off the top of my head) active guys dying in my lifetime (a quarter century) were Jerome Brown and Fred Lane.... though I'm sure there are several more. So much promise. Terrible.
:moneybag: I agree blaming the victim is tasteless. But discussion about other aspects of this crime should not only be allowed but encouraged in this thread, IMO.All too often when a tragedy like this occurs, there are righteous thought police out there, looking to scold anyone who doesn't stick solely to grieving in what they write. Let the moderators decide what is suitable and what isn't. These threads should be for promoting open discussion and debate, not prohibiting them.
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'Go ahead and hit your head against the wall. I do, often, about this subject. I'm sick of all the useless deaths, aren't you? That a young man like Sean Taylor, at the height of his talents and not even experiencing most of life, should die in this manner is a senseless tragedy. There is no way to separate that tragedy from criminals' easy access to guns. It has to stop. Far too many young people are dead, especially in urban areas. I may be the only one writing about it on this thread, but there are lots of people who agree with me. The violence has got to stop.

We all want to see the violence stop, but the record of gun confiscation in Canada, the UK, and Australia shows it actually increases crime, particularly violent crime, and doesnt do much to reduce crime via firearms (if at all). The states that have gone to concealed carry in the US have seen their crime rates drop faster than those that dont have it. The problem is there are people who DONT want to see the madness stop, and they are the ones who wont obey the gun laws. Instead they will have all of us at their mercy unless a cop happens to be 5 feet away. Firearms level the playing field, and unfortunately there is just no way to quit the game. It would appear to be a tragic part of human nature. If you think gun prohibition is realistic see how well the other things we have outlawed have been kept out of the wrong hands. Is it particularly hard to get ahold of cocaine in this nation? Keeping guns away from outlaws would be even harder.
You make fine points. Of course we've all heard all the arguments before. I am opposed to you on this subject, but I'm not going to bore you with my own arguments because you've heard all of them before, too. And we're getting nowhere. I admit situations like this one make me angry and frustrated at the way things are now. I don't want to restrict ANYTHING from good law-abiding citizens, if I can help it. But I'm tired of seeing these thugs get guns so easily, and we've got to find a way to stop that. I admit I don't know how...
Start a gun control thread in the FFA if you want to go there. Do not hijack this thread.J
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'Go ahead and hit your head against the wall. I do, often, about this subject. I'm sick of all the useless deaths, aren't you? That a young man like Sean Taylor, at the height of his talents and not even experiencing most of life, should die in this manner is a senseless tragedy. There is no way to separate that tragedy from criminals' easy access to guns. It has to stop. Far too many young people are dead, especially in urban areas. I may be the only one writing about it on this thread, but there are lots of people who agree with me. The violence has got to stop.

We all want to see the violence stop, but the record of gun confiscation in Canada, the UK, and Australia shows it actually increases crime, particularly violent crime, and doesnt do much to reduce crime via firearms (if at all). The states that have gone to concealed carry in the US have seen their crime rates drop faster than those that dont have it. The problem is there are people who DONT want to see the madness stop, and they are the ones who wont obey the gun laws. Instead they will have all of us at their mercy unless a cop happens to be 5 feet away. Firearms level the playing field, and unfortunately there is just no way to quit the game. It would appear to be a tragic part of human nature. If you think gun prohibition is realistic see how well the other things we have outlawed have been kept out of the wrong hands. Is it particularly hard to get ahold of cocaine in this nation? Keeping guns away from outlaws would be even harder.
You make fine points. Of course we've all heard all the arguments before. I am opposed to you on this subject, but I'm not going to bore you with my own arguments because you've heard all of them before, too. And we're getting nowhere. I admit situations like this one make me angry and frustrated at the way things are now. I don't want to restrict ANYTHING from good law-abiding citizens, if I can help it. But I'm tired of seeing these thugs get guns so easily, and we've got to find a way to stop that. I admit I don't know how...
Start a gun control thread in the FFA if you want to go there. Do not hijack this thread.J
Very well. I wasn't trying to hijack the thread. I am as angry as everyone else, and expressing my feelings. But per your wishes, I'll write no more about it.
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Say what you will, but the guy is a known criminal, living the "thug" lifestyle. Eventually, someone is going to get hurt, regardless of the situation. I repeat, it is sad that he died.

You haven't kept up with Sean Taylor's life and are speaking out of ignorance.
Yeah... yeah... yeah... he's a changed man, had a kid, turned his life around, found god. I got it. Doesn't really change my opinion.
Enjoy your timeout that is rightfully coming. You earned it.
Forget a timeout......I'd say ban. Joe warned earlier in the thread to be cool on this one and that's when we knew it was just a shooting and there was hope. A man died and you have these type of statements to say, quite frankly this kind of attitude isn't changed because you get a timeout. You don't deserve to post on these boards.Prayers and thoughts out to his family and friends.
Can everyone just drop the sensitivity level about three notches? Sean Taylor dying was a tragedy... but often times tragedies spark discussion about what may have prevented them... I don't think anyone here was being malicious. We're not at the funeral here, we're on a message board.At the same time, you can't blame the victim. Whatever Sean Taylor did in the past, he certainly never killed anyone, and nobody deserves that fate. 24 is so young. Losing three active NFL players in a calender year seems nuts... the only other times I remember (off the top of my head) active guys dying in my lifetime (a quarter century) were Jerome Brown and Fred Lane.... though I'm sure there are several more. So much promise. Terrible.
This is the last I'm going to mention it and although I disagree with you in the fact that we're just on a message board (as many of us frequent here close to daily all year round, a message board becomes more than just a message board) topics like what you're talking about may warrant some discussion, there's also such a thing called a time and place.It hasn't even been a day or a 1/2 a day and people want to ramble on about gun control or how if you live in that kind of environment, bad things will happen. Today, now and in this particular thread where it's first posted where Sean Taylor has passed away is definately not the place to discuss what you're mentioning. Edited by Iwannabeacowboybaby!
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Taylor is the only player that I ever heard about that Belichick coveted so much that he wanted to move up in the draft to get. He had the talent of a true difference maker.

I wasn't aware of this but it makes sense. Taylor was the only player at any position who was able to change the way Terrell Owens played, and by that I mean intimidate or distract him and take him out of his game. It didn't happen every time they played, but Terrell was definitely aware of where Taylor was on the field.
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This whole thing sickens me. The fact it happened...just horrible. The fact that some people have absolutely no respect for other human beings. I don't care who you are, where you grew up, how much $$ you make, how great you think your #### smells...this is sad and senseless. A GF/wife no longer has a husband. A baby girl no longer has a father. A group of brothers has lost one of their own. A group of coaches see a growing and maturing young life snuffed out. A wish we, as a group of fans could ALL feel saddened...but apparently some people didn't have strong/loving enough parenting to know when the time to simply say...RIP S. Taylor....we barely knew ye.

I wasn't sure what I wanted to write, but this just about sums it up 100%. :thumbup:
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Say what you will, but the guy is a known criminal, living the "thug" lifestyle. Eventually, someone is going to get hurt, regardless of the situation. I repeat, it is sad that he died.

You haven't kept up with Sean Taylor's life and are speaking out of ignorance.
Yeah... yeah... yeah... he's a changed man, had a kid, turned his life around, found god. I got it. Doesn't really change my opinion.
Enjoy your timeout that is rightfully coming. You earned it.
Forget a timeout......I'd say ban. Joe warned earlier in the thread to be cool on this one and that's when we knew it was just a shooting and there was hope. A man died and you have these type of statements to say, quite frankly this kind of attitude isn't changed because you get a timeout. You don't deserve to post on these boards.Prayers and thoughts out to his family and friends.
Can everyone just drop the sensitivity level about three notches? Sean Taylor dying was a tragedy... but often times tragedies spark discussion about what may have prevented them... I don't think anyone here was being malicious. We're not at the funeral here, we're on a message board.At the same time, you can't blame the victim. Whatever Sean Taylor did in the past, he certainly never killed anyone, and nobody deserves that fate. 24 is so young. Losing three active NFL players in a calender year seems nuts... the only other times I remember (off the top of my head) active guys dying in my lifetime (a quarter century) were Jerome Brown and Fred Lane.... though I'm sure there are several more. So much promise. Terrible.
This is the last I'm going to mention it and although I disagree with you in the fact that we're just on a message board (as many of us frequent here close to daily all year round, a message board becomes more than just a message board) topics like what you're talking about may warrant some discussion, there's also such a thing called a time and place.It hasn't even been a day or a 1/2 a day and people want to ramble on about gun control or how if you live in that kind of environment, bad things will happen. Today, now and in this particular thread where it's first posted where Sean Taylor has passed away is definately not the place to discuss what you're mentioning.
The day this becomes more than a message board, you probably should take a step back for some perspective.My best to the Taylor family.
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Taylor is the only player that I ever heard about that Belichick coveted so much that he wanted to move up in the draft to get. He had the talent of a true difference maker.

I wasn't aware of this but it makes sense. Taylor was the only player at any position who was able to change the way Terrell Owens played, and by that I mean intimidate or distract him and take him out of his game. It didn't happen every time they played, but Terrell was definitely aware of where Taylor was on the field.
Yeah, TO wouldn't have had 4 TDs two weeks ago if Sean had been playing. TO got alligator arms around Sean sometimes.Man, I'm going to miss watching him play. :thumbup: RIP Sean.
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Say what you will, but the guy is a known criminal, living the "thug" lifestyle. Eventually, someone is going to get hurt, regardless of the situation. I repeat, it is sad that he died.

You haven't kept up with Sean Taylor's life and are speaking out of ignorance.
Yeah... yeah... yeah... he's a changed man, had a kid, turned his life around, found god. I got it. Doesn't really change my opinion.
Enjoy your timeout that is rightfully coming. You earned it.
Forget a timeout......I'd say ban. Joe warned earlier in the thread to be cool on this one and that's when we knew it was just a shooting and there was hope. A man died and you have these type of statements to say, quite frankly this kind of attitude isn't changed because you get a timeout. You don't deserve to post on these boards.Prayers and thoughts out to his family and friends.
Can everyone just drop the sensitivity level about three notches? Sean Taylor dying was a tragedy... but often times tragedies spark discussion about what may have prevented them... I don't think anyone here was being malicious. We're not at the funeral here, we're on a message board.At the same time, you can't blame the victim. Whatever Sean Taylor did in the past, he certainly never killed anyone, and nobody deserves that fate. 24 is so young. Losing three active NFL players in a calender year seems nuts... the only other times I remember (off the top of my head) active guys dying in my lifetime (a quarter century) were Jerome Brown and Fred Lane.... though I'm sure there are several more. So much promise. Terrible.
:thumbup: RIP Sean Taylor, you were fun to watch...
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The day this becomes more than a message board, you probably should take a step back for some perspective.My best to the Taylor family.

Actually, for quite a few people, this is more than a message board as lots of friendships and relationships and community are in play here.That's why threads like this important and we try to keep them as clean as we can.J
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Just saw Joe's email and was greatly saddened by the news. Sort of puts all the recent arguing about sports, the Patriots, etc, in a different perspective when suddenly there is a little girl who is going to be growing up without a father. When a man with somewhat of a troubled past seemed to be turning his life around for the better only to have it taken away.

This is a very sad day. My condolences and sympathies to the Taylor family.

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I had high hopes Taylor was going to pull through. Hopefully the assailant is dumb enough and talks around the community, thus bragging about it, and getting caught as a result. Sad for his only kid to never know dad.

Maybe it has been discussed before but I have no idea what to search for but what happens to contracts of deceased players? Is it similar to retired players?

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The day this becomes more than a message board, you probably should take a step back for some perspective.My best to the Taylor family.

Actually, for quite a few people, this is more than a message board as lots of friendships and relationships and community are in play here.That's why threads like this important and we try to keep them as clean as we can.J
You can add all the intagibles you want, but this is just a message board (my favorite MB, but none-the-less).Any friendships or relationships based on a message board are, well, friendships and relationships based on a message board.I'm not saying this as a bad thing, I'm just saying. Edited by matuski
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The day this becomes more than a message board, you probably should take a step back for some perspective.My best to the Taylor family.

Actually, for quite a few people, this is more than a message board as lots of friendships and relationships and community are in play here.That's why threads like this important and we try to keep them as clean as we can.J
... this is the very reason I stick around here and, in fact, don't even bother with other message boards. That and mods keep the uncool to a minimum.Farewell to an exciting young football player. Sad to lose a young man who seemed to be maturing as a new father and coming into the prime of his life.
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'Go ahead and hit your head against the wall. I do, often, about this subject. I'm sick of all the useless deaths, aren't you? That a young man like Sean Taylor, at the height of his talents and not even experiencing most of life, should die in this manner is a senseless tragedy. There is no way to separate that tragedy from criminals' easy access to guns. It has to stop. Far too many young people are dead, especially in urban areas. I may be the only one writing about it on this thread, but there are lots of people who agree with me. The violence has got to stop.

We all want to see the violence stop, but the record of gun confiscation in Canada, the UK, and Australia shows it actually increases crime, particularly violent crime, and doesnt do much to reduce crime via firearms (if at all). The states that have gone to concealed carry in the US have seen their crime rates drop faster than those that dont have it. The problem is there are people who DONT want to see the madness stop, and they are the ones who wont obey the gun laws. Instead they will have all of us at their mercy unless a cop happens to be 5 feet away. Firearms level the playing field, and unfortunately there is just no way to quit the game. It would appear to be a tragic part of human nature. If you think gun prohibition is realistic see how well the other things we have outlawed have been kept out of the wrong hands. Is it particularly hard to get ahold of cocaine in this nation? Keeping guns away from outlaws would be even harder.
I'm gonna say EXCELLENT post then move all gun control posts to the FFA. FYI... this does suck out loud. RIP Taylor.... my best to his wife and children.
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The day this becomes more than a message board, you probably should take a step back for some perspective.My best to the Taylor family.

Actually, for quite a few people, this is more than a message board as lots of friendships and relationships and community are in play here.That's why threads like this important and we try to keep them as clean as we can.J
You can add all the intagibles you want, but this is just a message board (my favorite MB, but none-the-less).Any friendships or relationships based on a message board are, well, friendships and relationships based on a message board.I'm not saying this as a bad thing, I'm just saying.
:goodposting:I've got plenty of non message board friends but every so often I'l run into someone on here that I end up meeting up with IRL for one reason or another.. usually poker or FF related. I've played poker with Cavalier (at my home and in Tunica).... Dentist (in Tunica).... Clayton Gray (in Tunica)... hell Clayton and I co-own a FF team in a 16 team league locally. There are some cool folks here and while the origin of the friendships might be different, some folks here HAVE made some good buddies through this place. (not counting all the folks who were friends before coming here).
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To An Athlete Dying Young

The time you won your town the race

We chaired you through the market-place;

Man and boy stood cheering by,

And home we brought you shoulder-high.

Today, the road all runners come,

Shoulder-high we bring you home,

And set you at your threshold down,

Townsman of a stiller town.

Smart lad, to slip betimes away

From fields where glory does not stay,

And early though the laurel grows

It withers quicker than the rose.

Eyes the shady night has shut

Cannot see the record cut,

And silence sounds no worse than cheers

After earth has stopped the ears.

Now you will not swell the rout

Of lads that wore their honours out,

Runners whom renown outran

And the name died before the man.

So set, before its echoes fade,

The fleet foot on the sill of shade,

And hold to the low lintel up

The still-defended challenge-cup.

And round that early-laurelled head

Will flock to gaze the strengthless dead,

And find unwithered on its curls

The garland briefer than a girl's.

A.E. Housman

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Very sad. As strange as it sounds, I formed my own personal affinity for Sean Taylor because I traded for him in my Madden franchise with the Browns and would blitz him all the time out of one "quarters" formation, and shred the record books on sacks.

The reality, of course, is that a baby has lost a father, a mother has lost a son, and there will be a hole in many people's lives from the tragic loss of a very young man.

RIP Sean Taylor. :rant:

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And who keeps a machete as protection?

I don't know, but I know that you shouldn't bring a knife to a gunfight.
Somebody who had a firearms charge and was trying to stay on the right side of the law. I'm almost positive that posessing a firearm after a legal issue relating a firearm is a no-no.
Makes me wonder if he had a gun and it was taken during a prior break in so he would not have one to defend himself. He couldn't report it as stolen as that would be a parole violation. I hate that his daughter is an innocent bystander in this and has to grow up without her father. I have two kids and I worry about not being able to watch them grow up.
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I wasn't real hyped about football this season to begin with. I have to admit, this affected me more than I would expect an athlete's death too. Now I really couldn't care less about the rest of the season. The whole season just seems lost to me. Hopefully the feeling subsides with a little time. Just such a wasteful loss of human life.

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came in to check the news this morning, and I feel like I've been punched in the gut. terrible news. my thoughts go out to his family, especially his baby daughter and her mother, whose lives have been forever changed due to a violent act.

RIP Sean.

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Sharpstein said Taylor's girlfriend told him the couple was awakened by loud noises, and Taylor grabbed a machete he keeps in the bedroom for protection.

Sorry but this was no burglary. That much is obvious. The guy got off 2 shots vs a machete wielding Taylor.

Now once again I ask, why was this guy not living in a secluded gate guarded community?

And who keeps a machete as protection?

What is the point of these questions?

Are people who do not live in a secluded gate guarded community less deserving of sympathy when they are murdered in their own home?

And what does him having a machete have to do with anything?

Seriously, what is the point of this entire angle?

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FYI... this does suck out loud. RIP Taylor.... my best to his wife and children.

:confetti:

No disrespect intended, I just couldn't keep passing that up. Hoping to maybe make a few people in this thread that are really bummed out smile, without it being at Taylor's expense.

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A few more details, but only a few: New York Times

Taylor, his girlfriend and their 18-month-old daughter were in the master bedroom Monday morning when they heard a noise in the living room, Sharpstein said. Taylor grabbed a weapon from underneath his bed — which Sharpstein described as “a machete or something of that sort” — and was heading toward the bedroom door when someone burst through and opened fire with a pistol.

One bullet hit Taylor in the thigh and severed his femoral artery, and another hit a wall, Sharpstein said. The baby, who was in a crib, and Taylor’s girlfriend, who was hiding under the bedsheets, were unhurt, he said. It was unclear whether there was more than one intruder.

The incident was apparently the second time in nine days that someone broke into Taylor’s house.

According to a Miami-Dade Police report, an intruder broke through a front window Nov. 17, entered several rooms, rifled through drawers and a safe, and left a kitchen knife on a bed. No one else was in the house at the time, Taylor told the police.

In an interview on CNN this morning, Sharpstein said he believed that the earlier intrusion was not an isolated incident, and that the shooter who entered the home on Monday night may have been expecting Taylor to be out of town with his team.

“It is a high probability that it was the same people or some related people that returned,” he said. “I don’t think they expected to see him there. He’s a football player. He was home really on an injury to see doctors. No one expected him there. I think he was surprised, or they were surprised to see him there.”

Investigators are also apparently investigating whether there is any relation between these break-ins and a dispute two years ago between Taylor and some men in a depressed neighborhood near his home, Sharpstein said.

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Very good player. He wasn't Ronnie Lott, but he was a good player. Washington has invested a ton into that secondary, I wonder what Gregg Williams will do to scheme around the loss. I'm also curious of the cap implications of this situation. Does a player's death wipe his signing bonus proration away? Is his estate required to pay the signing bonus back? A portion back? It's unfortunate for his family. Taylor's past probably makes it hard for people to give him the benefit of the doubt here. I guess no one will know completely for sure what was the root cause of what happened. I'm sure this will become a cautionary tale for rookies during their NFL rookie indoctrination. I'm sure directors of player development are going to have to think long and hard about this issue as well. Whether anyone likes it or not, this will probably impact the upcoming draft. Significant resources were expended to scout, develop, mentor and train Taylor far above and beyond his salary. I think teams are going to have to look long and hard at these factors. Given the nature of parity and how Goodell has a hair trigger on discipline, I think the loss of even one key player on a roster can cripple an entire season. That's coaches jobs, players looking for contracts, players looking to make the team, assorted revenue issues, etc, etc all in play. When Brett Favre's father died, I remember his press conference. They asked him whether he was going to play or not. He responded that the NFL was a business and he never would forget that. At the end of the day, Taylor's loss will impact a bottom line. Wins and losses to start, but ultimately jobs and money in the end. In that regard, whatever his past, he is and was just like any other NFL player to his franchise. Simply a commodity. It's interesting though, the draft aspect of this issue. Will the Redskins ever draft someone with a questionable youth in the near future? What will they change about their drafting? Stack what the Titans must think post Pacman Jones, how will that shake up the entire first round of the draft period? The NFL is a business first and foremost. It's why we know about Taylors death in the first place, it will ultimately be the reason most of us will forget it in the next few weeks. Again, too bad for his family, it's an unfortunate situation for them.

Honestly, I think he was headed toward being better than Lott - I agree you couldn't say he was better based upon performance to date though. As for salary camp implications, I think it will be relatively minimal. He was still on his rookie contract, a relatively cheap (especially by 2007 standards) 7-year, $18M contract. Landry's contract was more than his, which was already leading some fans to demand an extension to lock him up.BTW - Taylor's "past" is overstated. It involved one firearm incident in which he was primarily a victim, and some mild disciplinary problems including missing the rookie symposium, being late to a team bus or practice, and some personal fouls in games. He didn't abuse drugs or women, and he wasn't a felon or even a partier. His ruthless nature on the field and his silence with the media has led some people to overestimate how "bad" he was. Edited by redman
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