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Steeler07 said:
Ah yes, what a very "dumb" thing to do to leave a GAME to go defend our FREEDOM!
The quality of Steeler07s character is evident in his post.
And about the lack of an alarm system: Les Carpenter, Washington Post
Actually, his girlfriend had a relative (forgot if it's a sister or cousin) was staying with them off & on. Since she went in & out clubbing snd so forth, they stopped arming it. Read that quote somewhere, but can't recall where now.
And once again Whitlock hits it out of the park
That was what he meant? I didn't respond because I wasn't even sure what he was saying.Steeler07 said:
Ah yes, what a very "dumb" thing to do to leave a GAME to go defend our FREEDOM!
The quality of Steeler07s character is evident in his post.
No Time Out for this comment? I seen a few guys get timeouts yesterday for much, much less. Is it ok to bash Tillman but not ok to bash Sean Taylor? I don't really get this, Tillman is a hero, Sean Taylor is a normal man, are we allowed to critisize hero's but not normal people?Steeler07 said:
I didn't consider what I said to be against the rules, but I know now it is. Sorry Joe, the staff and to anyone else I offended and such.Hopefully the Taylor family can make sense out of this tragedy somehow.
I tried sending a PM but could not. Do not ever bring an avatar like that in this board again.
The avatar was pic of girl's black eye she received when her boyfriend accidentally hit her with a Wii controller.Joe Bryant said:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml...2/14/nwii14.xmlYet his good friend Antrel Rolle had this to say...fatness said:
Which is what I wondered... if he had so many enemies and wanted to distance himself from those friends, why didn't he move? It's not like he didn't have the money.
Pride?
Taylor felt safe in the neighborhood he lived in. Les Carpenter, Washington Post
I suppose if Rolle really has any information on people being out to get Taylor for 3 years, he'll be giving it to the police?
awful quick too
I tend to get annoyed with all the speculation so far. The cops on the case are saying one thing and the media has basically said "No, your wrong" while only knowing half the facts.
but if you think people find it distasteful to ask "what happened?" when what happened is found out - people will find it even more distasteful for people to ask "how can we stop this?"
'' At least, he's got peace now." 
If that's the case, then why even go to Miami ever? Much less live there.Redskins | Rolle says S. Taylor had many enemies in MiamiWed, 28 Nov 2007 20:16:25 -0800The Associated Press reports Arizona Cardinals CB Antrel Rolle said he believes the killing of Washington Redskins S Sean Taylor was not part of a burglary, and that Taylor had many enemies on the streets of Maimi. Rolle said, "This was not the first incident. They've been targeting him for three years now." Rolle said many former "friends" had it in for Taylor. "He really didn't say too much, but I know he lived his life pretty much scared every day of his life when he was down in Miami because those people were targeting him. At least, he's got peace now."He makes it sound like he was dying of cancer or something...wtf.
The news media in general don't even know half the facts. They look up whatever previous articles there are in their files concerning Taylor, write something tied to that, and act like they know something. By all accounts from his family, teammates, and coaches Taylor had changed his behavior and his life in a pretty admirable direction. That didn't generate news articles over the last year or 2, though, so the news media just picked up where his court case left off. Much of the stuff initially written about him was essentially "Sean Taylor in trouble again; this time he's in so much trouble he's dead." They didn't know what else to write.Some of the sports writing, as opposed to general news writing, was a little better but not much. The Miami Herald and Washington Post seem to be doing the best job of actually trying to report true events. And true events is all I want to read about. Screw speculation.
My biggest annoyance is not with speculation. It is listening to Cowheard talk about incidents that Taylor had, that yes were idiotic decisions, but were later proved to be fairly inaccurate.
I think you guys are living in Fantasyland if you really think this was nothing more than a botched robbery attempt. Just because Taylor turned his life around, that doesn't mean his old friends/enemies did the same. If they had some kind of vendetta against Taylor from years ago, they're not going to suddenly let bygones be bygones just because Taylor has decided to grow up.Of course that's all speculation right now, because no one knows the facts. But when no one knows what actually happened, that's what people do - they speculate. They wonder what might have happened. In Taylor's case, it seems more than likely that his past caught up to him. Antrel Rolle seems to agree, and he knows more about Taylor and his background than any of us.
All I can say is a few months back there was a lot of speculation before facts in the Mike Vick case and the speculation proved correct. If it looks bad and smells bad it is probably bad. What will all the non-speculators say if the speculators are correct once again. Sticking your head in the sand and pretending everything is ok won't change things for the better. Jason Whitlock's article may be a bit early for some to stomach and may not be correct in this case (time will tell) but needed to be said none the less.
I agree. It's a shame that his promising career came to such an abrupt end, but I just don't feel all that great about all these tributes. I know this is completely off-topic, but does anyone remember that psycho-wrestler from the WWF (Benoit)? They were immediately honoring him the night of the incident, and it later came out he was a murderer. Not saying that Taylor is anywhere near Benoit territory --- BUT it does make you think twice before giving anyone the benefit of the doubt.No, it doesn't. Some of us just realize the terrible loss that people have suffered and aren't worried about trying to affix blame right now. So maybe it makes you think twice, but please don't speak for the rest of us.I agree. It's a shame that his promising career came to such an abrupt end, but I just don't feel all that great about all these tributes. I know this is completely off-topic, but does anyone remember that psycho-wrestler from the WWF (Benoit)? They were immediately honoring him the night of the incident, and it later came out he was a murderer. Not saying that Taylor is anywhere near Benoit territory --- BUT it does make you think twice before giving anyone the benefit of the doubt.
and THAT is part of the problem.Rolle isn't going to be a snitch.
I`ve always wondered...which is the right way to say...''the benefit of THE doubt'' or is it ''the benefit of doubt''No, it doesn't. Some of us just realize the terrible loss that people have suffered and aren't worried about trying to affix blame right now. So maybe it makes you think twice, but please don't speak for the rest of us.I agree. It's a shame that his promising career came to such an abrupt end, but I just don't feel all that great about all these tributes. I know this is completely off-topic, but does anyone remember that psycho-wrestler from the WWF (Benoit)? They were immediately honoring him the night of the incident, and it later came out he was a murderer. Not saying that Taylor is anywhere near Benoit territory --- BUT it does make you think twice before giving anyone the benefit of the doubt.
So the fact that Rolle has no information proves your theories? That is priceless.and THAT is part of the problem.Rolle isn't going to be a snitch.
It's a fact that Rolle has no information?Link please.So the fact that Rolle has no information proves your theories? That is priceless.and THAT is part of the problem.
I think you need to add "THE" b/c "doubt" is the noun (it's the proper way to say it). http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/benefit_of_the_doubtI`ve always wondered...which is the right way to say...''the benefit of THE doubt'' or is it ''the benefit of doubt''No, it doesn't. Some of us just realize the terrible loss that people have suffered and aren't worried about trying to affix blame right now. So maybe it makes you think twice, but please don't speak for the rest of us.I agree. It's a shame that his promising career came to such an abrupt end, but I just don't feel all that great about all these tributes. I know this is completely off-topic, but does anyone remember that psycho-wrestler from the WWF (Benoit)? They were immediately honoring him the night of the incident, and it later came out he was a murderer. Not saying that Taylor is anywhere near Benoit territory --- BUT it does make you think twice before giving anyone the benefit of the doubt.
Who is trying to place blame? I completely understand all Redskins fans mourning the loss of a great football player. I'm just saying I'm not ready to start memorilizing him and calling him a tragic victim when we don't really know what happened, or what he was involved in.No, it doesn't. Some of us just realize the terrible loss that people have suffered and aren't worried about trying to affix blame right now. So maybe it makes you think twice, but please don't speak for the rest of us.
fatness said:So the fact that Rolle has no information proves your theories? That is priceless.phthalatemagic said:and THAT is part of the problem.azgroover said:fatness said:
I said something 100% more tame than that and got a suspension. I'd probably tread carefully dude.
If I get a suspension for telling the truth then so be it. Some people need to get off their PC horse!!! Anyone who pulls a gun out on another person is a thug. There is no sugar coating it.
One foolish mistake when your a young man = Thug for life?
