Otis
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I'm too drunk already to tell you the name of the scotch that started my night. But it was good.Going with Glen Livet aged in French Oak tonight.
I'm too drunk already to tell you the name of the scotch that started my night. But it was good.Going with Glen Livet aged in French Oak tonight.
Glenlivet 12 - the McDonald's of Single Malt ScotchesWell, like I said I'm jumping in feet first here.
I am having a few friends over on Friday mostly as an excuse to try several different brands. It's a scotch tasting and I need advice on some aspects of the event.
Here's what I know we will have (in my planned order of sampling):
Glenlivet 12
Johnnie Walker Gold
Highland Park 12
Laphroaig 10
Lagavulin 16
We may have more but I won't know what they are likely to be until we convene on Friday.
Questions for the FFA experts:
[*]Is this the correct order for tasting?
[*]I was thinking 1 finger for each with water on the side for each round. Add water to taste for each participant. Does that sound good?
[*]How should I clean the glasses between rounds (assuming I don't have enough rocks glasses for everyone to get a fresh one on each tasting - which I don't)?
[*]What is the proper way to taste? How many times to sniff (before & after adding water), how long in mouth? Swish or chew? Inhale or exhale after swallowing? This is serious business and I need solid advice here
[*]What should I have on hand to cleanse the palate between sampling? Crackers of some sort? Something else?
[*]I'm thinking each round of sampling should last 20 - 35 minutes, start to finish. Too short? Too long?
Thanks for the help, gents.
Now see, I thought the Glenlivet was more the Chick Fil-A, and that Glenfiddich was the McDonald's.Glenlivet 12 - the McDonald's of Single Malt ScotchesJohnnie Walker Gold - pretty good, but still a blend.. lacks somethingHighland Park 12 - have not hadLaphroaig 10 - decent islay, but just not enough flavor burst for me... needs more smoke, more peatLagavulin 16 - this is really good
We need a rye thread. Cocktails that I generally found too cloying with bourbon rock when made with rye as God intended.The Boulevardier sounds interesting. I'm usually doing some Manhattan or variant. My standard recipe is 3 parts rye to 1 part Carpana Antica formula Vermouth with 2 dashes of Fee Brothers barrel aged Vermouth. Garnish with a lemon twist if I'm feeling austere and a Luxardo cherry if I'm feeling like a pansy.Lately, I've been making more "Perfect" Manhattans where I replace half the Carpana with Dolin dry vermouth. And if I'm feeling the need for something sweeter, I do a McKinley's Delight, which is the classic 3:1 rye to vermouth ratio with a half teaspoon of cherry licquor (I use Heering) and an absinthe rinse in the glass.I've been getting into Boulevardier Cocktails.Equal parts of rye whiskey, sweet vermouth, and Campari. It's surprisingly refreshing and good. There's a twist on it where you use two parts rye and one part of the others, but I actually like the original better.It doesn't replace my Bookers/rocks, but it's a nice change of pace.
Turns out we won't have the Laphroaig after all, but instead will have a Glenrothes and s blended called Dimple Pinch.In reading through the thread, it sounds like Glenrothes is a Speyside and would probably fit next to the Glenlivet. Any suggestions on which would be preferable to start with?Well, like I said I'm jumping in feet first here.
I am having a few friends over on Friday mostly as an excuse to try several different brands. It's a scotch tasting and I need advice on some aspects of the event.
Here's what I know we will have (in my planned order of sampling):
Glenlivet 12
Johnnie Walker Gold
Highland Park 12
Laphroaig 10
Lagavulin 16
We may have more but I won't know what they are likely to be until we convene on Friday.
Questions for the FFA experts:
[*]Is this the correct order for tasting?
[*]I was thinking 1 finger for each with water on the side for each round. Add water to taste for each participant. Does that sound good?
[*]How should I clean the glasses between rounds (assuming I don't have enough rocks glasses for everyone to get a fresh one on each tasting - which I don't)?
[*]What is the proper way to taste? How many times to sniff (before & after adding water), how long in mouth? Swish or chew? Inhale or exhale after swallowing? This is serious business and I need solid advice here
[*]What should I have on hand to cleanse the palate between sampling? Crackers of some sort? Something else?
[*]I'm thinking each round of sampling should last 20 - 35 minutes, start to finish. Too short? Too long?
Thanks for the help, gents.
We do need a rye thread. I've been making old fashioned's with Bulleit rye that are pretty tasty. What rye are you using?We need a rye thread. Cocktails that I generally found too cloying with bourbon rock when made with rye as God intended.The Boulevardier sounds interesting. I'm usually doing some Manhattan or variant. My standard recipe is 3 parts rye to 1 part Carpana Antica formula Vermouth with 2 dashes of Fee Brothers barrel aged Vermouth. Garnish with a lemon twist if I'm feeling austere and a Luxardo cherry if I'm feeling like a pansy.Lately, I've been making more "Perfect" Manhattans where I replace half the Carpana with Dolin dry vermouth. And if I'm feeling the need for something sweeter, I do a McKinley's Delight, which is the classic 3:1 rye to vermouth ratio with a half teaspoon of cherry licquor (I use Heering) and an absinthe rinse in the glass.I've been getting into Boulevardier Cocktails.Equal parts of rye whiskey, sweet vermouth, and Campari. It's surprisingly refreshing and good. There's a twist on it where you use two parts rye and one part of the others, but I actually like the original better.It doesn't replace my Bookers/rocks, but it's a nice change of pace.
its awesome... will be more smokey that the balvenie.i'm not sure how you'll feel about it, i think the balvenie is horrible... so maybe you'll think the lagavulin is swillI just received a bottle of Lagavulin 16 from my staff, I've never had it before. Thoughts? I'm typically a Balvenie guy
Huge fan. My standard favorites are:Lagavulin 16Laphroaig 10Talisker 18All just fantastic.I just received a bottle of Lagavulin 16 from my staff, I've never had it before. Thoughts? I'm typically a Balvenie guy
Just talked about this and tasted it with another sommelier at Scotch dinner. We are both huge Islay fansThe nose is iodine and Lapsang tea. Big powerful citrus, smoke, and wood in your mouth and will finish with vanilla and a touch of honey, wood, and dates.Get some smoked salmon and squeeze a bit of fresh lemon juice on top and then take a bite and then a sip of LagavulinWe also had a 1987 Lagavulin finished in Pedro Ximenez Sherry CasksGood lord...that and a dark chocolate truffle. Out of this world!I just received a bottle of Lagavulin 16 from my staff, I've never had it before. Thoughts? I'm typically a Balvenie guy
I'm going to crack it open around 3:30 in the office so I will have to say I like it as I will be in front of my staff. Figured it was going to be more smokey.its awesome... will be more smokey that the balvenie.i'm not sure how you'll feel about it, i think the balvenie is horrible... so maybe you'll think the lagavulin is swillI just received a bottle of Lagavulin 16 from my staff, I've never had it before. Thoughts? I'm typically a Balvenie guy
Just about to open a bottle of this now.I'm enjoying my Crown Royal over the rocks right now.
Had my first glass yesterday and enjoyed it a great deal, as you said it was more smokey than the Balvenie. Really a smooth drinking scotch, I'm a fan.its awesome... will be more smokey that the balvenie.i'm not sure how you'll feel about it, i think the balvenie is horrible... so maybe you'll think the lagavulin is swillI just received a bottle of Lagavulin 16 from my staff, I've never had it before. Thoughts? I'm typically a Balvenie guy
What Balvanie have you had that you think is swill. Personal preferences I guess, but I have always said their Portwood is straight up nectar of the gods.its awesome... will be more smokey that the balvenie.i'm not sure how you'll feel about it, i think the balvenie is horrible... so maybe you'll think the lagavulin is swillI just received a bottle of Lagavulin 16 from my staff, I've never had it before. Thoughts? I'm typically a Balvenie guy
Portwood is amazingWhat Balvanie have you had that you think is swill. Personal preferences I guess, but I have always said their Portwood is straight up nectar of the gods.its awesome... will be more smokey that the balvenie.i'm not sure how you'll feel about it, i think the balvenie is horrible... so maybe you'll think the lagavulin is swillI just received a bottle of Lagavulin 16 from my staff, I've never had it before. Thoughts? I'm typically a Balvenie guy
Just picked up a bottle of this last week and am having a nip right now. Still my favorite, haven't had it since I moved back to the states four years ago.I have found that I prefer the Scotch's that are a bit sweeter and I still like the Quinta Ruban the best of anything I've tried.
The Islays are just phenomenal on a winter's day, was made to drink during cold weather IMO. Lagavulian the prince of the Islays, great bouquet.Cracked open the Lagavulin. Holy ####, this is liquid velvet. I might have made juice.
I would suggest adding a Speyside to that collection for the variety. Balvenie is the best for the money, Cragganmore, Aberlour or the Macallans all fit the bill.Lagavulin 16 and Highland Park 12 are both going to be permanent fixtures in my cabinet. I ran out of the Lagavulin a week or so ago and repurchased within a day. Not to drink, but to have for next time. First time I've ever had anything that I considered essential to have on hand.Still looking for number 3. I haven't tried Macallin 15 or 18 yet, or the Talisker, but I'm still searching for one that I can only describe as stiff leather finish. Need help on this if anyone has any ideas.
Regularly in my top 2 or 3.Got a Lagavulin 16 and a Macallan 12 today. Cracked open the Lagavulin. Holy ####, this is liquid velvet. I might have made juice.
Talisker 18. It's very different from other Taliskers, and very, very good.Lagavulin 16 and Highland Park 12 are both going to be permanent fixtures in my cabinet. I ran out of the Lagavulin a week or so ago and repurchased within a day. Not to drink, but to have for next time. First time I've ever had anything that I considered essential to have on hand.Still looking for number 3. I haven't tried Macallin 15 or 18 yet, or the Talisker, but I'm still searching for one that I can only describe as stiff leather finish. Need help on this if anyone has any ideas.
I started on the rocks but advanced to neat after a short time. As you start to get into the really good scotches, sort of a waste to splash them over ice. Some do say a single drop of water into a neat scotch is the best way but I usually don't bother.Do you guys mostly drink them neat?
I'm a rocks guy usually. I know it goes against everything the scotch nerds believe in, but it works for me. Occasionally I enjoy neat. One thing I like about rocks is the way the experience changes over the drink as it dilutes. Starting with something heavy like a macallan cask strength makes for a great winding road.Do you guys mostly drink them neat?
no, I'm either small spash of cool (not cold) water, or single ice cubedepends somewhat on the strength and flavor profile of the scotch.if it's a standard 80 proof i don't add much... if it's a higher proof add a tad more to mellow it outDo you guys mostly drink them neat?
no it's ok if you're using a blend like Dewars or johnny red or something.but not the single malt type of stuff that most of us are discussing in this threadhaving said that i can't think of a scotch cocktail i'd even want other than scotch and club soda or something.Canadian whisky and bourbon do a much better job blending with other flavor profilesIs it appropriate to make a cocktail contaning Scotch? Or is that best left to Canadian or Bourbon Whiskey?
Neat, in a Glencairn glass. They're perfect. Got my groomsmen some when I got married. Good for engraving, as well.Do you guys mostly drink them neat?
these are the glasses i use as well.perfect size for a single ice cube if you want it.Neat, in a Glencairn glass. They're perfect. Got my groomsmen some when I got married. Good for engraving, as well.Do you guys mostly drink them neat?
One small ice cube to open it up and also get it cold, which I prefer.Do you guys mostly drink them neat?
I'll mix JWR at a bar sometimes but you might as well just buy some Wild Turkey if you want to mix. The whole point of having single malt Scotch is as a stand-alone beverage.no it's ok if you're using a blend like Dewars or johnny red or something.but not the single malt type of stuff that most of us are discussing in this threadIs it appropriate to make a cocktail contaning Scotch? Or is that best left to Canadian or Bourbon Whiskey?
Just mixing it with Coke or sour mix is a waste, but Scotch can be a great addition to a finely crafted cocktail. I went to a place once that did a wash of the ice cubes with a peaty single malt then added poured the other booze and mixers from the shaker. It was awesome.'Sabertooth said:Is it appropriate to make a cocktail contaning Scotch? Or is that best left to Canadian or Bourbon Whiskey?
About 20% of the time. Mostly use a single over sized ice ball. About the size of a golf ball. Maybe a touch bigger. Doesnt melt as quickly as cubes. One of those balls lasts me about 3 rounds. Like Otis, I like the way the experience changes as ice melts a little bit. With my ice ball the 3rd or 4th round is basically neat depending on how fast I'm drinking.ETA: Ice Balls'Sabertooth said:Do you guys mostly drink them neat?
Are you missing some words in this part?Just mixing it with Coke or sour mix is a waste, but Scotch can be a great addition to a finely crafted cocktail. I went to a place once that did a wash of the ice cubes with a peaty single malt then added poured the other booze and mixers from the shaker. It was awesome.'Sabertooth said:Is it appropriate to make a cocktail contaning Scotch? Or is that best left to Canadian or Bourbon Whiskey?
Tonight will be some Glenrothes 1995Going with my go-to Macallan 12 tonight.
I don't think so.....Bartneder has the cocktail made in the shaker, puts some scotch over the ice cubes, drains the scotch out, pours cocktail on top. Added a great subtle smokiness to the cocktail.Are you missing some words in this part?Just mixing it with Coke or sour mix is a waste, but Scotch can be a great addition to a finely crafted cocktail. I went to a place once that did a wash of the ice cubes with a peaty single malt then added poured the other booze and mixers from the shaker. It was awesome.'Sabertooth said:Is it appropriate to make a cocktail contaning Scotch? Or is that best left to Canadian or Bourbon Whiskey?
Both the Blood and Sand and the Rob Roy are excellent cocktails. The Rob Roy is just a Manhattan with scotch instead of rye.'Dentist said:no it's ok if you're using a blend like Dewars or johnny red or something.but not the single malt type of stuff that most of us are discussing in this threadhaving said that i can't think of a scotch cocktail i'd even want other than scotch and club soda or something.Canadian whisky and bourbon do a much better job blending with other flavor profiles'Sabertooth said:Is it appropriate to make a cocktail contaning Scotch? Or is that best left to Canadian or Bourbon Whiskey?