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If my wife even caught me looking at this game, with how much time I wasted in front of D2, I'd be out on my rump in a second. This is the only nerdy RPG video game I've ever played, but man, did I effin play it!A couple more links:Corporation said:Vrana said:Been waiting for something to play.
I'd bet there's going to be a good push to have it out by Christmas. But if it isn't ready, Blizzard has a rep of delaying releases. I'd still have to bet by early '09.
There's no way it will be out by Christmas. Starcraft 2 was announced in May 2007 and there's not even a release date or target date for that. And yes, the gameplay looked pretty polished with 2 characters in 2 different zones, but they're not even ready to ANNOUNCE any of the other classes or how many there will be. You've still got at least 15-18 months to drool over this game before you'll be able to touch it.
Christmas, definitely. What year is the question?
SC2 for this xmas, D3 for next, IMO.
Wow, it really looks like an amazing game. I hope they come out with a version for PS3 as well.
I wish this was true, but knowing Blizzard.... no way.
I don't care what they call it, that looks ####### awesome. That lich king is badass. Man I can't wait for this.
Also looking forward to this. Surprised that they're only releasing 5 classes at launch. Although D2 had that many, you'd think they'd continue along the lines of D2 LOD with more choices.I don't care what they call it, that looks ####### awesome. That lich king is badass. Man I can't wait for this.
Besides the 5 classes released at launch, im guessing they'll add 5 more classes. All of which will come in a different expansion pack.Also looking forward to this. Surprised that they're only releasing 5 classes at launch. Although D2 had that many, you'd think they'd continue along the lines of D2 LOD with more choices.I don't care what they call it, that looks ####### awesome. That lich king is badass. Man I can't wait for this.
You can absolutely be assured there will be at least one expansion pack, if not several. Blizzard knows how to bleed their fans.awesomeness said:Besides the 5 classes released at launch, im guessing they'll add 5 more classes. All of which will come in a different expansion pack.Anonymous Internet User said:Also looking forward to this. Surprised that they're only releasing 5 classes at launch. Although D2 had that many, you'd think they'd continue along the lines of D2 LOD with more choices.Shrek said:I don't care what they call it, that looks ####### awesome. That lich king is badass. Man I can't wait for this.awesomeness said:
So... Amazon w/ a facelift...
http://www.diablowiki.net/Diablo_vs_WoW_controversy
The net code seems a little buggy -- a few releases ago, I got very little lag but now it stutters a bunch, especially when starting a new game. I know they just sent out a bunch more invites, probably to perform load testing, so this is to be expected.
based on the limited tech trees and customization (compared to a game like wow), it seems very doable to bring it to xbox/ps3
Good stuff Snitwitch.Do you know how the runestones work - are those drops and items you need to buy in the AH or does everyone have access to all of them (i.e. you don't need them in inventory)? I assumed the former.I'm a little worried about the real money AH - are there two of them, one gold based and one real money based or is it only real money based? Hopefully with all of the money leaching that Blizzard is doing (cost to list, cost to sell, cost to transfer) people will refrain from buying out all of 1 item from the AH and then relist it for 2x or 3x what they paid for it. I know I used to do this a lot with wow with craftable materials. I guess the fact that you just need gold to level up crafting will mitigate that aspect. I can still see there being a "black market" for rare drops. One legendary bow selling for $8 in the AH and I just got a drop of 1, I'm most likely buying that bow and relisting it for $25 and if that sells relist the 2nd one for $25 or less.I believe there is still a public chat channel for trading (maybe not in beta) but I read that p2p trading was allowed and you will need some way to broadcast your items.So the difficulties - there's normal (sc), hard (hc), and inferno? Is the AH only in sc and hc and not inferno? Also different AH's for different levels (but maybe across all acts? Do you only die forever in inferno or is that true with hc as well?When I watched the play throughs I only saw the narrator in the video, I assume every part of the world is instanced (to yourself)?I've been playing the beta for a month or two. Here's my take:This is very much a "diablo" game in that they've really captured the gameplay / feel from the previous games. I mean they've nailed it. Click-clicking on loot (which is now personal to you) and destroying tons of monsters is still super satisfying. The environments and spell effects are beautiful. The "destructible" environment feature they've touted is sorta meh to me, it rarely gets used to destroy bad guys. Stellar art direction -- the graphics are beautiful but not in a Crysis graphics-card-crippling way -- typical Blizzard game in this regard and they hit it out of the park as usual.They've added achievements as is in fashion in games these days, the ones in the beta are pretty cool but don't seem to confer any benefits on your characters -- not sure what they have planned for the release version.There are some fun "events" that can pop up when you're going through areas -- I like these a lot (jar of souls for one) but many playing the beta seem to want to skip over these and just run as fast as possible to the next boss.Crafting seems useful as you're leveling, but they recently removed the ability to disenchant while not in town, and normal "white" items are no longer used to disenchant and then re-craft from the resulting materials (instead you end up selling white / grey items in town for cash). Not sure how I feel about this change, but it's not a huge issue. What's cool is that you don't craft yourself, you have a blacksmith that follows you around the acts and levels up as you spend gold on them. And at least in the beta, the same blacksmith is used across all characters (e.g. no need to level multiple blacksmiths)Grouping is easy using their matchmaking system, but there seems to be no global chat as there were on the D2 battle.net servers. This is probably a good thing mind you2 Sorc = D3 WizardAmazon = Demon HunterPaladin = Monk (each can heal, but monk has more ninja-like attack skills)Necro = Witch Doctor (similar in that both summon creatures)Barb = Barb (almost identical)I'm enjoying playing mostly the wizard and demon hunter. Both are super fun, even up to the level 13 cap, and you can see the potential when the more bad ### skills get unlocked later on. The wizard is like a typical RPG glass cannon, but what's cool is that their "mana" (or arcane power as it's called I believe) regenerates really quickly so you're never far away from nuking something. The demon hunter's mana ("hatred") regenerates a lot more slowly, but they also have this other mana thing (discipline) that activates other types of abilities that don't require shooting (like evasive maneuvers and ####). That, and you can dual-wield one-hand crossbow guns, which is awesome.The main problem with the beta (well, not a problem really, as I'm certain this was intended) is that it only contains maybe 10% of the game (on normal difficulty, so it's VERY easy), maybe 25% of the skills for each class, and no runestones which will be used to customize skills. Customizing through runestones and playing on the harder difficulties are two big factors that are going to give this game legs. The beta gives you a taste of what is likely to come, which is potentially awesome, but you can't be 100% sure you won't burn out on it long term.In short, I wouldn't expect anything earth-shattering in terms of novel or unique gameplay, but if you're looking for a modern version of D2, with all the improvements that modernity brings, you should be very pleased. I rate this a BUY
Blizzard is consistant with taking a LONG time for games to come out but damn they deliver when they finally arrive.
No release date, sounds like in 2012. I'd expect the release date to be announced at BlizzCon...wait:http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2012/01/blizzcon-2012-canceledbut-why.arsHmmm, my guess would be no later than July 1st but that is just pulling a date out of the air.
2013. Maybe.
Are you able to make any decent gear at the blacksmith? Is this a good weapon or do you find the drops are generally better?http://us.battle.net/d3/en/artisan/blacksmith/recipe/journeyman-dervishDo you need a drop that lets you make it?Actually how many recipes can you make by default and how many are recipe drops?Last Q: Can you sell recipes in the AH?
Crafting does result in decent gear, very often better than what you find in normal item drops. I'm 90% certain the weapon you linked does not require a separate recipe, it just becomes available when you level the blacksmith enough. It's better than what you normally find as weapon drops but it's also not usable in the beta as it requires level 14. I think crafting will be very useful for leveling. After you reach the cap, i'm not so sure -- may depend on what rare type recipes you have. The mats required for the weapon you linked are obtained from disenchanting blue items (which gives you this: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/subtle-essence) and yellow items (which gives you this: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/fallen-tooth).I think I tried to sell a rare belt recipe on the AH and was unsuccessful -- I believe there's an AH button that allows you to search for crafting recipes (and dyes and stuff) so I'm assuming you'll be able to sell this stuff on the AH at some point.
It was more wishful thinking than anything. 
Thanks for the summary.
