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Leeroy Jenkins said:
Bigboy10182000 said:
Daywalker said:
Getting the feeling that Jesse make it out of this alive. He has to kill Todd at some point.
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I'm thinking he hangs himself with his leash, maybe after killing Todd? Then the Nazis threaten Skylar and Saul for the whereabouts of Walt which brings him back.
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Jesse won't be doing that because they will kill Brock.
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Maybe the ricin is to give to Jesse so he can die without the Nazis thinking it was suicide.

 
Well... I got nothing. Best hour of TV I've ever seen. I didn't even know what to do with myself after it ended for a good 5 minutes. Just sat here stunned

 
A quick review of tonight's "Breaking Bad" coming up just as soon as I sell that hideous crying clown..."Mama." -Holly

I didn't imagine "Breaking Bad" could top the final sequence of last week's episode for tension and power and ability to induce a state of complete, nauseous panic. I was wrong. "Ozymandias" is one of the very best episodes of this great, cruel show, but also one of the most sickening.

After the teaser flashes back to the first time Walt and Jesse came to this curse spot in the desert — back when Walt could still imagine the drug business being easy, harmless money, and when he could focus more on Skyler's proposed name for their incoming baby girl — we pick up in the same spot (with the RV fading out and then Jack and Hank's cars fading in) with the shootout between Hank, Gomez and the Nazis all done, in the only way it could be. Steve is dead. Hank is badly wounded and still hopelessly outgunned, and Jack has long since decided to kill him. We see that Walt still has some level of humanity, and love of family, left in him, as he sacrifices his buried treasure in a futile attempt to save Hank's life, but Hank knows what's what and takes a bullet to the head...

... which finally sends Walt over a cliff, as he spends most of the rest of the episode lashing out at the people who have been dumb enough to care about him. He gives up Jesse's location to the Nazis, blaming him for his role in Hank's murder (because he has no ability to hurt Uncle Jack), and decides that this is the perfect moment to tell Jesse about how Jane died. In all the years since season 2, as I've turned over and over in my head the idea of how and when Jesse might find out about this — coming closest in season 3's "Fly," also directed, like this episode, by the amazing Rian Johnson — I never imagined that Walt might be the one to come right out and tell Jesse, and to do it out of nothing but pure spite.

And yet as terrible as the desert aftermath was, with the Nazis getting their hands on both Walt's cash (most of it, anyway, as Uncle Jack leaves Walt with one barrel — one barrel and $11 million as payoff for all of Heisenberg's awful crimes — as a sop to Walt-admiring Todd), it was nothing compared to the later scene at the White residence, with Skyler demanding, D'Angelo Barksdale-style, to know where Hank is, then trying to protect her son with a carving knife from the evil, evil man she married. I thought that Skyler and Marie fighting over the disposition of Holly a few weeks ago was as emotionally low as this show could go, but then we had Walt and Skyler brawling on the living room floor while Holly screamed and Flynn jumped in to save his mom, driving Walt away from his family forever, and briefly trying to take Holly with him.(*)

(*) Because of tonight's circumstances, my wife was in the hospital room with me as I watched the episode — her first "Breaking Bad" ever. Unsurprisingly, she did not respond well to the Holly abduction scene, and to the absolute despair of Anna Gunn's performance. Threw her into the deepest end of the pool possible.

Walt has always justified his meth cooking as something he was doing for his family, but as his wife and son stare at him like he is history's greatest monster, and as he steals his baby daughter from her terrified mother, his actions are exposed for what they've always been: indefensible.

Though even now, Walt isn't all gone. Holding Holly in the bathroom, and hearing her ask for her mother, at least breaks the spell long enough for him to realize that he can't take her, and that he has to do everything he can to protect Skyler from the consequences of his actions. His call to the house is, on the surface, yet another disgusting expression of Walter White's pride, but it's really just another performance by master thespian Heisenberg: doing everything he can to make sure the cops think all fault belongs to him, and that Skyler (who, I think, realizes what he's doing as the invective gets angrier and angrier) is simply his blameless victim. It's the only decent thing he has left to do before he hops into the minivan of Saul's guy and prepares for his new life in New Hampshire as Mr. Lambert.

The only downside to watching this episode while impaired is that I can't do full justice to its genius in this review. I'm too punchy right now, and should probably just be laying down. Maybe later this week, I'll revisit it with a longer, more coherent look. Because this was incredible, and horrible. Hank and Gomez are dead. The Nazis have Walt's fortune, and have a brutalized Jesse as their prisoner to help Todd cook meth. Marie is a widow. Flynn has had his entire worldview shattered. Nearly everything bad that could happen to these people has happened. And we still have two hours, a machine gun and a ricin capsule to get through.

Oh. My. God.
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Don't see the Nazi's going after walt's family. They have 60mill. Going after walt's family to blackmail him in some fashion seems pretty risky.

 
Good Posting Judge said:
It's amazing that they still want to cook meth even though they all have #### you money. True dedication to their craft.
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Todd's looking to impress Lydia. I don't think we've seen the last of her.

Also, I think Jessie may have learned something cooking with Walt that may enable him to incapacitate Todd.

 
kupcho1 said:
Good Posting Judge said:
It's amazing that they still want to cook meth even though they all have #### you money. True dedication to their craft.
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Todd's looking to impress Lydia. I don't think we've seen the last of her.

Also, I think Jessie may have learned something cooking with Walt that may enable him to incapacitate Todd.
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I would guess he's going to attempt to incapacitate all of them.

 
Good Posting Judge said:
kupcho1 said:
Good Posting Judge said:
It's amazing that they still want to cook meth even though they all have #### you money. True dedication to their craft.
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Todd's looking to impress Lydia. I don't think we've seen the last of her.

Also, I think Jessie may have learned something cooking with Walt that may enable him to incapacitate Todd.
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I would guess he's going to attempt to incapacitate all of them.
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Well, he's got to escape first. And I don't think Jessie would be looking for vengeance if he gets out on his own. My guess is he high tails it out.

 
Good Posting Judge said:
It's amazing that they still want to cook meth even though they all have #### you money. True dedication to their craft.
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Actually, it's so amazing that I had trouble buying it, honestly.

If there was a single flaw in that amazing amazing episode (and like everyone else here, don't think I've seen a better hour on television) it was the behavior of the Nazis. They should have killed Walt. Then they should have taken the barrels and disappeared.

 
timschochet said:
Good Posting Judge said:
It's amazing that they still want to cook meth even though they all have #### you money. True dedication to their craft.
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Actually, it's so amazing that I had trouble buying it, honestly.

If there was a single flaw in that amazing amazing episode (and like everyone else here, don't think I've seen a better hour on television) it was the behavior of the Nazis. They should have killed Walt. Then they should have taken the barrels and disappeared.
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You're probably right but what is the potential, long term?

 
I dont think Jessie is getting out. Walt is not going to save him. I think the best Walt will do is give Jessie the Ricin and tell him, you want out, here is your chance. And the last scene is Jessie taking it.

OR

When the blue continues, Walt's family is going to be under pressure from the DEA, that is why Hank will go after Jack and Todd.

 
I totally forgot about the opening scene until I read Sepinwall's review.

I decided to wait to start until I could be sure I could zip through all the commercials. I can't imagine what kind of basketcase I would have been had I had to wait through Low Winter Sun commercials.

I don't know if it's really fair to call this the best episode of the series because so much happened. But screw it, this was the best hour of the series. 20 minutes after finishing, and I still can't breathe right.

Hank and Gomey dying knocked me down to one knee. The Walt/Skyler fight took out the other knee. And then, Walt taking Holly and the phone call of death after...I'm done for. Good grief.

 
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timschochet said:
If there was a single flaw in that amazing amazing episode (and like everyone else here, don't think I've seen a better hour on television) it was the behavior of the Nazis. They should have killed Walt. Then they should have taken the barrels and disappeared.
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Without a doubt. And even though there are two episodes left, the possibility would have at least gone through our mind had we not seen the flash-forward.

 
timschochet said:
Good Posting Judge said:
It's amazing that they still want to cook meth even though they all have #### you money. True dedication to their craft.
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Actually, it's so amazing that I had trouble buying it, honestly.

If there was a single flaw in that amazing amazing episode (and like everyone else here, don't think I've seen a better hour on television) it was the behavior of the Nazis. They should have killed Walt. Then they should have taken the barrels and disappeared.
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I hate to be that guy but since you are bringing up flaws- I was amazed with the nice tires the Indian had on that old truck. I know a few guys with trucks like that and all those tires are dry rotted and it is a miracle they get anywhere, let alone peeling out and pushing cars out of the way.

 
kupcho1 said:
Good Posting Judge said:
kupcho1 said:
Good Posting Judge said:
It's amazing that they still want to cook meth even though they all have #### you money. True dedication to their craft.
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Todd's looking to impress Lydia. I don't think we've seen the last of her.

Also, I think Jessie may have learned something cooking with Walt that may enable him to incapacitate Todd.
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I would guess he's going to attempt to incapacitate all of them.
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Well, he's got to escape first. And I don't think Jessie would be looking for vengeance if he gets out on his own. My guess is he high tails it out.
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Meth labs can explode. Jesse doesn't necessarily need to get free to make this happen.

 
The Duff Man said:
I dont think Jessie is getting out. Walt is not going to save him. I think the best Walt will do is give Jessie the Ricin and tell him, you want out, here is your chance. And the last scene is Jessie taking it.

OR

When the blue continues, Walt's family is going to be under pressure from the DEA, that is why Hank will go after Jack and Todd.
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ACA Ghost Schrader?

 
jamny said:
timschochet said:
"Good said:
It's amazing that they still want to cook meth even though they all have #### you money. True dedication to their craft.
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Actually, it's so amazing that I had trouble buying it, honestly.If there was a single flaw in that amazing amazing episode (and like everyone else here, don't think I've seen a better hour on television) it was the behavior of the Nazis. They should have killed Walt. Then they should have taken the barrels and disappeared.
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You're probably right but what is the potential, long term?
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80 million is a lot of money.

 
prosopis said:
timschochet said:
Good Posting Judge said:
It's amazing that they still want to cook meth even though they all have #### you money. True dedication to their craft.
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Actually, it's so amazing that I had trouble buying it, honestly.If there was a single flaw in that amazing amazing episode (and like everyone else here, don't think I've seen a better hour on television) it was the behavior of the Nazis. They should have killed Walt. Then they should have taken the barrels and disappeared.
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I hate to be that guy but since you are bringing up flaws- I was amazed with the nice tires the Indian had on that old truck. I know a few guys with trucks like that and all those tires are dry rotted and it is a miracle they get anywhere, let alone peeling out and pushing cars out of the way.
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Great catch. I also raised an eyebrow on that one. No tinted windows or front spoiler too?

 
The Duff Man said:
I dont think Jessie is getting out. Walt is not going to save him. I think the best Walt will do is give Jessie the Ricin and tell him, you want out, here is your chance. And the last scene is Jessie taking it.

OR

When the blue continues, Walt's family is going to be under pressure from the DEA, that is why Hank will go after Jack and Todd.
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hanks dead
 
shadyridr said:
The Duff Man said:
I dont think Jessie is getting out. Walt is not going to save him. I think the best Walt will do is give Jessie the Ricin and tell him, you want out, here is your chance. And the last scene is Jessie taking it.

OR

When the blue continues, Walt's family is going to be under pressure from the DEA, that is why Hank will go after Jack and Todd.
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hanks dead
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But not GhostHank...

 
timschochet said:
"Good said:
It's amazing that they still want to cook meth even though they all have #### you money. True dedication to their craft.
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Actually, it's so amazing that I had trouble buying it, honestly.If there was a single flaw in that amazing amazing episode (and like everyone else here, don't think I've seen a better hour on television) it was the behavior of the Nazis. They should have killed Walt. Then they should have taken the barrels and disappeared.
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I would like to believe that this likely would have happened without the intervention of Todd.

 
The Duff Man said:
I dont think Jessie is getting out. Walt is not going to save him. I think the best Walt will do is give Jessie the Ricin and tell him, you want out, here is your chance. And the last scene is Jessie taking it.

OR

When the blue continues, Walt's family is going to be under pressure from the DEA, that is why Hank will go after Jack and Todd.
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He's dead, Jim.

 
timschochet said:
Good Posting Judge said:
It's amazing that they still want to cook meth even though they all have #### you money. True dedication to their craft.
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Actually, it's so amazing that I had trouble buying it, honestly.

If there was a single flaw in that amazing amazing episode (and like everyone else here, don't think I've seen a better hour on television) it was the behavior of the Nazis. They should have killed Walt. Then they should have taken the barrels and disappeared.
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jamny said:
timschochet said:
Good Posting Judge said:
It's amazing that they still want to cook meth even though they all have #### you money. True dedication to their craft.
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Actually, it's so amazing that I had trouble buying it, honestly.

If there was a single flaw in that amazing amazing episode (and like everyone else here, don't think I've seen a better hour on television) it was the behavior of the Nazis. They should have killed Walt. Then they should have taken the barrels and disappeared.
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You're probably right but what is the potential, long term?
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They're freaking white-trash Nazis. People like that don't always do the logical thing.

 
Good Posting Judge said:
kupcho1 said:
Good Posting Judge said:
kupcho1 said:
Good Posting Judge said:
It's amazing that they still want to cook meth even though they all have #### you money. True dedication to their craft.
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Todd's looking to impress Lydia. I don't think we've seen the last of her.

Also, I think Jessie may have learned something cooking with Walt that may enable him to incapacitate Todd.
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I would guess he's going to attempt to incapacitate all of them.
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Well, he's got to escape first. And I don't think Jessie would be looking for vengeance if he gets out on his own. My guess is he high tails it out.
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Meth labs can explode. Jesse doesn't necessarily need to get free to make this happen.
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Yeah, that's kind of where I was going with that: explosion, or lethal gas. I think J will use either (or something like it) to escape.

Or do you see it as suicide???

 
prosopis said:
timschochet said:
"Good said:
It's amazing that they still want to cook meth even though they all have #### you money. True dedication to their craft.
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Actually, it's so amazing that I had trouble buying it, honestly.If there was a single flaw in that amazing amazing episode (and like everyone else here, don't think I've seen a better hour on television) it was the behavior of the Nazis. They should have killed Walt. Then they should have taken the barrels and disappeared.
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I hate to be that guy but since you are bringing up flaws- I was amazed with the nice tires the Indian had on that old truck. I know a few guys with trucks like that and all those tires are dry rotted and it is a miracle they get anywhere, let alone peeling out and pushing cars out of the way.
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Lol, I told my wife, "great bones on that truck apparently."

Pretty convenient to be able to roll your barrel up to the local ***** and get a vehicle. Wonder if he heard the ok corral style shootout going on?

 
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