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Another interesting thing with these laast couple episodes. After killing gail, jesse asked badger and skinny pete to come over because he couldn't be alone. They had an extended debate about zombie video games and how you shoot them, and jesse couldn't join in. He just got higher and higher. During his big meth binge, he goes downstairs and grabs a random girl and brings her up to his room, where they play mario kart together. He could easily have had the sex with her, but he wanted company, and he wanted to play a video game, just not one with any shooting.

But after mike and gus make him into a hero, and he starts to get the acceptance he has wanted since the first episode of the show, he beomes comfortable in his own skin. He's the bad guy. So at the start of this episode right now, you hear gunshots, and see him standing with a gun, only to realize he's playing one of the zombie shooter video games that he couldn't even talk about two episodes ago. And as his character dies, he stands there looking at the screen, choosing between restart and quit, and shoots restart.

Even more interesting now that we know how walt ends all of this. He totally denies jesse his identity, saying that gus and mike were lying to jesse to get to walt. And jesse believes walt, which leaves him where he always has been, craving acceptance but feeling worthless. It was the ultimate move to use on jesse.

 
bostonfred said:
Another interesting thing with these laast couple episodes. After killing gail, jesse asked badger and skinny pete to come over because he couldn't be alone. They had an extended debate about zombie video games and how you shoot them, and jesse couldn't join in. He just got higher and higher. During his big meth binge, he goes downstairs and grabs a random girl and brings her up to his room, where they play mario kart together. He could easily have had the sex with her, but he wanted company, and he wanted to play a video game, just not one with any shooting.

But after mike and gus make him into a hero, and he starts to get the acceptance he has wanted since the first episode of the show, he beomes comfortable in his own skin. He's the bad guy. So at the start of this episode right now, you hear gunshots, and see him standing with a gun, only to realize he's playing one of the zombie shooter video games that he couldn't even talk about two episodes ago. And as his character dies, he stands there looking at the screen, choosing between restart and quit, and shoots restart.

Even more interesting now that we know how walt ends all of this. He totally denies jesse his identity, saying that gus and mike were lying to jesse to get to walt. And jesse believes walt, which leaves him where he always has been, craving acceptance but feeling worthless. It was the ultimate move to use on jesse.
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you're obviously known around here as a very smart guy. but if you're right, vince gilligan is albert freaking einstein

 
I love the meeting with gus. Gus has one chair at the center of the table facing the door. There's a half dozen chairs with their back to the door. Mike sits next to the door facing the table. There's a huge security contingent. Gus has laid out a pot of coffee, a pitcher of water with lots of glasses, and a veggie platter. It looks ridiculous when the one guy sits down. You can see the power play that gus is trying to use, and the cartels response is awesome. They send someone he's never met, and just one guy, who has one demand, and no plans to negotiate. There's so much #### you going on in that scene, and its all in the staging.. so many subtle little things going on

 
Wow. The birds picture with the phrase "Stick Together"

Jesse looks up and sees two birds when in the desert when the neo-nazis are about to kill him before Todd suggests they question him.

Walt gave away his position and of course Jesse gave Walt to Hank with the phone call threatening to burn his money.

 
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And after that conversation, jesse sits in the car with mike, and all he wants to know is what gus sees in him. He's so desperate for approval. And mike gives it to him. He says its loyalty.

So jesse goes to a meeting, and he has the "I had to put a dog down" confession, where he's obviously talking about killing gail. And everyone tries to help him accept himself for it, but as he gives out more details, they start judging him. The meeting leader guy starts telling him to accept himself, and he starts crying and lashing out. He asks the leader how he could run over his own kid. He says I only came here to sell you meth. I made you my #####. Are you ok with that? Can you accept that? And they say no. And he says about time, and leaves.

The biggest problem he had with a.a. was that they offered him unconditional acceptance, and told him to accept himself, but he has a harder and harder time doing that. His parents kick him out and call him a loser, and compare him to his genius brother. He finds a test from walts class, one he failed, and it says not even close, ridiculous. Walt continues to degrade him again and again, and makes him kill gail, which sends him on his worst meth binge yet. Jane wouldn't date him at first because he was a drug addict. Nobody believes in him. Then gus and mike offer him that acceptance. The cartel wants him to move to mexico. Their scientist challenges him and he ##### slaps the guy.

Its amazing how much more powerful jesse is when he has the slightest bit of confidence, and how worthless he is when he doesn't.

 
Bigboy10182000 said:
What birds picture?
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In the lobby of the oncology clinic. He's talking to the younger guy and telling him that he has to be in control of his own life, that all the advice people gave him was bull####. And they sit there staring at the picture of four birds over a desert scene that looks a lot like where walt buried the money and the gunfight happened. the caption is stick together, which - huge season five spoiler alert - the nazis did, but walt didn't. In a gunfight involving his brother in law, his partner, and the nazis, it was the nazis who robbed him, as he called them to protect him from hank, and he tells them to kill jesse, too. Just the absolute least sticking together possible.
 
FlapJacks said:
One thing that strikes me aboutthe series, looking back:

In the early seasons, even though he felt like a chump and not really respected, is seeing how respected and loved he truly was by his family, students etc. He gained all the money in the world, but it burned every bridge and he was just a lonely guy living in a hut in the middle of nowhere. By becoming rich, he became poor.
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No way.

 
Continuing the video game theme, walt goes to jesses house demanding that jesse kill gus, and jesse blows it off. In the background, you can see the screen where jesse had been playing video games says RAGE is Paused.

 
Why don't the Whites use their garage? It is the most prominent feature of their home and they never use it. It gets hot in New Mexico if you leave your cars out in the sun. Folks there don't do that unless they are dirt poor.

Is this just an oversight on the part of the writers?

 
The extra few seconds that it would take to back the cars out of the garage would eat into the time for the Low Winter Sun promos

 
Ditkaless Wonders said:
Why don't the Whites use their garage? It is the most prominent feature of their home and they never use it. It gets hot in New Mexico if you leave your cars out in the sun. Folks there don't do that unless they are dirt poor.

Is this just an oversight on the part of the writers?
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I wish I could email this post to my dad.

Garages are so awesome....it blows my mind why people waste the square footage with putting boxes on the freaking ground

 
Tiger Fan said:
bostonfred said:
Another interesting thing with these laast couple episodes. After killing gail, jesse asked badger and skinny pete to come over because he couldn't be alone. They had an extended debate about zombie video games and how you shoot them, and jesse couldn't join in. He just got higher and higher. During his big meth binge, he goes downstairs and grabs a random girl and brings her up to his room, where they play mario kart together. He could easily have had the sex with her, but he wanted company, and he wanted to play a video game, just not one with any shooting.

But after mike and gus make him into a hero, and he starts to get the acceptance he has wanted since the first episode of the show, he beomes comfortable in his own skin. He's the bad guy. So at the start of this episode right now, you hear gunshots, and see him standing with a gun, only to realize he's playing one of the zombie shooter video games that he couldn't even talk about two episodes ago. And as his character dies, he stands there looking at the screen, choosing between restart and quit, and shoots restart.

Even more interesting now that we know how walt ends all of this. He totally denies jesse his identity, saying that gus and mike were lying to jesse to get to walt. And jesse believes walt, which leaves him where he always has been, craving acceptance but feeling worthless. It was the ultimate move to use on jesse.
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you're obviously known around here as a very smart guy. but if you're right, vince gilligan is albert freaking einstein
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If this was the case Skylar would have told Hank the guest bathroom is on the skits use our's.

 
Hanks minerals, those are essentially chemicals, chemicals from which things like explosives or poisons might be derived, are they not? I mean sure some are just common things a collector might want, but really those are just cover from anybody looking at his order. What was Hank really intending?

 
One great aspect of this show is how "quiet" it is. Lots of moments of comtemplation. Laconic character luke Merkert. .Lots of pauses that let you drink it all in.

The setting is also such a critical aspect of this show. Originally, the setting was to be Los Angeles, whould have just ruined the whole thing. The desert, the "small city" feel, the western motif, and the whole NM culture is a really food fit for the show

 
FlapJacks said:
The setting is also such a critical aspect of this show. Originally, the setting was to be Los Angeles, whould have just ruined the whole thing. The desert, the "small city" feel, the western motif, and the whole NM culture is a really food fit for the show
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We're just lucky that it's cheap to film in NM. The show wouldn't have been the same.

 
Long Ball Larry said:
FlapJacks said:
One thing that strikes me aboutthe series, looking back:

In the early seasons, even though he felt like a chump and not really respected, is seeing how respected and loved he truly was by his family, students etc. He gained all the money in the world, but it burned every bridge and he was just a lonely guy living in a hut in the middle of nowhere. By becoming rich, he became poor.
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No way.
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What's crazy is that he actually "breaks bad." It's almost like the title of the show!

 
"Good said:
Has there ever been any explanation as to how Walt lost his job at Sandia Labs and became a teacher? TIA.
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Nothing on the Breaking Bad Wiki about it.

Around 20 years ago, Walt worked in Application Labs ("Cancer Man"). He also worked in a chemical lab near Los Alamos, and met Skyler White, a hostess at that time, in a restaurant ("Cancer Man"). He moved to Albuquerque to work for Sandia Laboratories just prior to his firstborn ("Full Measure").

Walt eventually went on to become a chemistry teacher at JP Wynne High School where his son, Walter White Jr., also attends as a student. Financially, this job was not enough to support his family, so Walt took on a second job at the A1A Car Wash.

 
bentley said:
"Good said:
Has there ever been any explanation as to how Walt lost his job at Sandia Labs and became a teacher? TIA.
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Nothing on the Breaking Bad Wiki about it.

Around 20 years ago, Walt worked in Application Labs ("Cancer Man"). He also worked in a chemical lab near Los Alamos, and met Skyler White, a hostess at that time, in a restaurant ("Cancer Man"). He moved to Albuquerque to work for Sandia Laboratories just prior to his firstborn ("Full Measure").

Walt eventually went on to become a chemistry teacher at JP Wynne High School where his son, Walter White Jr., also attends as a student. Financially, this job was not enough to support his family, so Walt took on a second job at the A1A Car Wash.
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Interesting. In the flashback to when Walt and Skyler see the house for the first time, he's still got some pep in his step. It'd be intriguing to see how he went from that to jr. high teacher, but I guess we'll just have to guess.

From the Grantland precap, info. on the hockey game that was on in the bar: http://extramustard.si.com/2013/09/23/last-nights-breaking-bad-featured-a-classic-college-hockey-game-from-1998/

 
Encyclopedia Brown said:
Vince Gilligan is such a hot property that he is getting a full production order from CBS for an idea that was rejected eleven years ago.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/breaking-bads-vince-gilligans-detective-636593
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Vince Gilligan deserves all the credit in the world, but I do hope this opens some doors for the other excellent creators from the show; folks like Thomas Schnauz , Peter Gould, Sam Catlin, George Mastras, and Moira Wally-Beckett...

 
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So does Aaron Paul have staying power as an actor, or will he travel the country signing autographs for $10 a pop in a few years?

"That'll be a sawbuck, BITCH!"

 
Raider Nation said:
So does Aaron Paul have staying power as an actor, or will he travel the country signing autographs for $10 a pop in a few years?

"That'll be a sawbuck, BITCH!"
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His imdb page lists a flick--A Long Way Down--that is based on a novel written by the guy who wrote "High Fidelity". The author always has the same type of character that Cusack played: the insecure, overly analytic, trying-too-hard type of guy. It's much different than Jesse. It will be interesting to see how Paul plays it.

He also has a movie directed by Ridley Scott and starring Christian Bale.

That's not too bad of a post-Bad career start.

 
bentley said:
"Good said:
Has there ever been any explanation as to how Walt lost his job at Sandia Labs and became a teacher? TIA.
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Nothing on the Breaking Bad Wiki about it.

Around 20 years ago, Walt worked in Application Labs ("Cancer Man"). He also worked in a chemical lab near Los Alamos, and met Skyler White, a hostess at that time, in a restaurant ("Cancer Man"). He moved to Albuquerque to work for Sandia Laboratories just prior to his firstborn ("Full Measure").

Walt eventually went on to become a chemistry teacher at JP Wynne High School where his son, Walter White Jr., also attends as a student. Financially, this job was not enough to support his family, so Walt took on a second job at the A1A Car Wash.
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It's not something I worry about but I do find it hard to believe. There's really no excuse for a chemist of any talent, let alone a CalTech educated one, to be teaching high school chemistry. If things didn't work out at Sandia he could have found a job anywhere in the country.

 
Homer J Simpson said:
Raider Nation said:
So does Aaron Paul have staying power as an actor, or will he travel the country signing autographs for $10 a pop in a few years?

"That'll be a sawbuck, BITCH!"
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Saw him in a couple other things and he's been pretty great. If he picks good projects, I'm sure he'll do very well.
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Agree. He's young enough that he doesn't have to be type cast as jesse pinkman if he makes good decisions. This show still has fairly low viewership. Lots of actors from more popular shows have made transitions to bigger roles.

 
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