maybe he could just never get his #### together enough to leave. Scowler probably has no desire to leave. He settled into something comfortable and easy. It seems, at some point he just started going through the motions and didn't apply himself (which he ironically accused Jesse of). It took a cancer diagnosis for him to realize how much he had compromised his potential...
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cstu
Footballguy
Walt has a serious lack of self-esteem:
- Intimidated by a rich girl he is dating he dumps her (afraid she'd end up leaving him if he didn't) and ends up marrying a waitress who he wasn't afraid would leave him.
- Rather than find another chemistry job after Sandia he settles for being a high school teacher where he is easily the smartest guy in the school. That's not what he told himself was the reason, which was probably his son being disabled and needed a secure income/insurance.
- His anger with people questioning things he does really shows his lack of self-esteem. Someone who is confident does react the way he does to perceived disrespect.
- Even look at how he reacted when Flynn thought he was the one who raised all the money for his cancer treatment. Jealous of his own son who might actually think he's better at something than his dad.
Walter White's fear that his ego would get damaged always held him back and that's why he needed to create Heisenberg to be successful.
- Intimidated by a rich girl he is dating he dumps her (afraid she'd end up leaving him if he didn't) and ends up marrying a waitress who he wasn't afraid would leave him.
- Rather than find another chemistry job after Sandia he settles for being a high school teacher where he is easily the smartest guy in the school. That's not what he told himself was the reason, which was probably his son being disabled and needed a secure income/insurance.
- His anger with people questioning things he does really shows his lack of self-esteem. Someone who is confident does react the way he does to perceived disrespect.
- Even look at how he reacted when Flynn thought he was the one who raised all the money for his cancer treatment. Jealous of his own son who might actually think he's better at something than his dad.
Walter White's fear that his ego would get damaged always held him back and that's why he needed to create Heisenberg to be successful.
cstu
Footballguy
Jesse is Walt without the genius. Could be the reason why Walt insults him so much - he knows he could have been Jesse if it weren't for his intelligence.
bostonfred
Footballguy
Yup. How about him finding out he has cancer and saying, oh well, I might as well die. He doesn't even want to get treatment. And then the scene where skyler has an intervention for him because he's considering not getting treated for cancer, and he says that his whole life, he never made his own decisions. Followed by the scene where he finds out his tumor has gone way down in size, and he goes to the bathrooom and bloodies his fist punching the paper towel dispenser because he was upset with the news (and obviously his own decisions). He acts like he has nothing to lose because he places such a low value on himself.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
I want to study the Mr. Lambert flash-forward a little more closely, knowing what we know now.
pollardsvision
Footballguy
Not that I disagree, but I can't think of too actors from great shows that went on to bigger roles in other very good shows and didn't get typecast. Most were more classic leading man types that ended up playing somewhat similar roles (Olyphant, Krause, Goggins). Speaking of Olyphant, there's also Gunn who went from playing a wife nobody likes to playing a wife nobody likes.
Michael C. Hall sort of fits that mold, though he did have to shake off the "wow, so the gay Fisher is a serial killer now" thing.
At best, most seem to end up in terrible network dramas (Chiklis, Dean Norris, Connie Britton).
Paul seems like he'd have a really hard time not being Pinkman with as much time as he spends on twitter saying "#####".
He'll definitely get a lot of work, but the chances of Aaron Paul being remembered as anything other than Jesse Pinkman is pretty slim, I think.
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Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Placemat said "rethink" or something?
pollardsvision
Footballguy
Encyclopedia Brown
Footballguy
That is definitely true.
Going back in history, Buddy Ebsen sticks out as someone who went from one show playing a specific type of character to a second show playing someone entirely different.
Ed O'Neill and Katey Sagal have gone on to second shows with different characters.
pollardsvision
Footballguy
DeVito might've pulled it off the best, though Taxi was a little before my time, so I can't speak to how different Frank is from Louie. He had a big movie career in between, but I guess a lot of those roles were similar. Probably hard to build a big movie and TV career as a fat 4' guy without some sort of typecasting.
Hell, Cranston himself might be pretty far up on this short list. He became well known for 3 pretty different roles, minor as the 1st might've been.
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Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
MAGNETS BIT*H!
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Saul hasn't aged well.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Franch.
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
So I guess Robert Forster set Walt up with machine gun guy?
Homer J Simpson
I don't push
Walt used machine gun guy before. Remember when he bought the revolver to try and kill Gus? Early in season 4
bentley
Footballguy
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
There are BB episodes non-stop right up until the finale.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Mike did always see right through Walt. Amazing though how mike wanted Jesse dead and then really cared for him.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Which tagline will we remember the most several years from now?
A) "I am the one who knocks"
B) "I'm in the empire business."
C) "Tread lightly."
D) Other
A) "I am the one who knocks"
B) "I'm in the empire business."
C) "Tread lightly."
D) Other
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Knocks.
Homer J Simpson
I don't push
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
My TV sure picked a great time to #### out on me. 
May have to watch the finale through a stream on my laptop or something. Just seems wrong. I see that the AMC website has full episodes available for streaming if you login with your TV provider, like HBOGO does.. Anyone know if they'll stream the finale live or how soon I can watch it after it initially airs?
May have to watch the finale through a stream on my laptop or something. Just seems wrong. I see that the AMC website has full episodes available for streaming if you login with your TV provider, like HBOGO does.. Anyone know if they'll stream the finale live or how soon I can watch it after it initially airs?
Brady Marino
Footballguy
G. "What's the hell's wrong with you!? We're a family!"
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Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Banks was genius in this episode. From the interrogation with Hank and Gomey to this scene in Chow's house.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
"You need anything else, Mike?"
at Lydia's reaction.
at Lydia's reaction.
Jojo the circus boy
Footballguy
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Walt, watching Scarface with Flynn just now in "Hazard Pay"...
"Everyone dies in this movie, don't they!"
"Everyone dies in this movie, don't they!"
Encyclopedia Brown
Footballguy
Norris has spent so much time in this show with a limp that you think he actually has a limp in real life, like the woman from "ER".
Homer J Simpson
I don't push
This whole 2nd half of the season has been pure tension the whole friggin time. God I love it.
Jojo the circus boy
Footballguy
Junior's look when Skyler swaps his bacon was priceless!
No, no, no.
Looked like he was going to cry.
No, no, no.
Looked like he was going to cry.
Encyclopedia Brown
Footballguy
The scenes between Saul and Skyler are underrated.
Gunn and Odenkirk underplay the overt hostility.
Gunn and Odenkirk underplay the overt hostility.
bostonfred
Footballguy
The two commercials right now are pretty good. Chemistry is the study of transformation! and My name is ozymandias king of kings. Look on my works ye mighty and despair.
badmojo1006
Footballguy
Just woke up and turned it on to see Todd shoot the kid 
badmojo1006
Footballguy
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
The way the beginning of the next episode is shown - when they are destroying the evidence, like the kid's bike and then eventually the kid himself - is so well-shot. Plus, while Todd is reaching and trying to find the kid in the dirt pile, the looks on the faces of both Mike and Walt say it all.Just woke up and turned it on to see Todd shoot the kid
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prosopis
Arizona Chupacabra
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
I'm not. I think the show has gone long enough. I've loved damned near every second of it, but it takes guts to end something at its apex instead of milking it for every last penny (maybe that's what the spinoff is for). Breaking Bad has never been more popular than it is right now (the internet will explode tonight - good, bad, or inbetween). Obviously, Gilligan & Co couldn't see this coming 4 years ago (I think the end of S4 was a just-in-case-we-don't-get-renewed plan and I'd have been fine with that), but it's almost a perfect time to shut it down.Yup
badmojo1006
Footballguy
The dinner scene! 
Donsmith753
Footballguy
Hopefully this stays relatively unspoiled, because of the time difference I'm not going to get a chance to watch this till tomorrow night UK time.
Tempted to wake at 3, download it and then go to work.
Tempted to wake at 3, download it and then go to work.
Abraham
Footballguy
It passed west wing as my favorite show ever when Walt showed up at Denny's and bought a machine gun. Sknce then it has moved up and to the right in a way that is surprising - it's gotten better by the week.I'm not. I think the show has gone long enough. I've loved damned near every second of it, but it takes guts to end something at its apex instead of milking it for every last penny (maybe that's what the spinoff is for). Breaking Bad has never been more popular than it is right now (the internet will explode tonight - good, bad, or inbetween). Obviously, Gilligan & Co couldn't see this coming 4 years ago (I think the end of S4 was a just-in-case-we-don't-get-renewed plan and I'd have been fine with that), but it's almost a perfect time to shut it down.Yup
But I agree. I'm ready for it to end. They've told an amazing story and finishing it well is an amazing accomplishment. This is the only long running show I can think of that didn't have an "off" season or even 3 or 4 episodes in a row that could be skipped over.
Jojo the circus boy
Footballguy
In "Buyout" Walt has pretty much lost his family, says he is in the Empire Business (not the Meth or Money business), brings up Grey Matter, takes credit for coming up with the name and says he checks the stock price weekly (daily?).
Mirrors where he is at in the finale, still not sure if this points to him making an effort to destroy GM in order to "win" or not before turning himself in, getting himself killed, or eating the ricin.
Mirrors where he is at in the finale, still not sure if this points to him making an effort to destroy GM in order to "win" or not before turning himself in, getting himself killed, or eating the ricin.
