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2009 Rookie TE's (1 Viewer)
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thriftyrocker
Footballguy
Quinn should not be drafted. He is only a blocking TE.
Ingram should also be on that list. He has as much fantasy upside as any of them, but probably is the biggest risk too, if drafting a TE in round 4 of a rookie draft counts as risk.
I would rank it:
Pettigrew - may never be the PPR beast Witten or Gates is, but will be solid
Beckum - could be Eli's version of Dallas Clark - a lot of upside as a receiving-only TE
Nelson - almost as sure a thing as Pettigrew, but less upside given Buffalo's O
Cook - good measurables, but I think he's a risk of being a workout warrior
Coffman - poor man's Cooley, but will the O use the TE at all?
Casey - has potential to be very good, but Owen Daniels stands in the way, and usually you don't keep a backup TE around
Ingram - has more upside than Celek, but will take a year or two to produce like Casey
Ingram should also be on that list. He has as much fantasy upside as any of them, but probably is the biggest risk too, if drafting a TE in round 4 of a rookie draft counts as risk.
I would rank it:
Pettigrew - may never be the PPR beast Witten or Gates is, but will be solid
Beckum - could be Eli's version of Dallas Clark - a lot of upside as a receiving-only TE
Nelson - almost as sure a thing as Pettigrew, but less upside given Buffalo's O
Cook - good measurables, but I think he's a risk of being a workout warrior
Coffman - poor man's Cooley, but will the O use the TE at all?
Casey - has potential to be very good, but Owen Daniels stands in the way, and usually you don't keep a backup TE around
Ingram - has more upside than Celek, but will take a year or two to produce like Casey
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awesomeness
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This years tight end prospects are VERY good, i don't remember a bunch of TE's in the same draft who could each be dominant fantasy forces. I value upside a lot in Tight ends, because having a top 5 TE gives you a huge boost over the other teams in the league because the drop off from tier 1 to tier 2 is very significant.
1) Chase Coffman
2) Jared Cook
3) Travis Beckum
4) Brandon Pettigrew
5) James Casey
6) Shawn Nelson
7) Richard Quinn
As a fantasy owner i'd be pretty happy to own any of the top 5 maybe 6 tight ends in my rankings.
1) Chase Coffman
2) Jared Cook
3) Travis Beckum
4) Brandon Pettigrew
5) James Casey
6) Shawn Nelson
7) Richard Quinn
As a fantasy owner i'd be pretty happy to own any of the top 5 maybe 6 tight ends in my rankings.
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Hoss_Cartwright
Footballguy
Cook will be the stud from this group. He's got freakish speed for his size (4.4) and catches everything. He can't block worth a lick, but I like my fantasy TEs to be able to catch, not block. Pettigrew will be a good NFL TE, but a mediocre fantasy TE. He blocks really well and will probably end up blocking more than catching. Third, I like Nelson. He's another athletic TE with upside and is in a good situation. Then I like Beckum, Casey, Coffman, then Quinn from your group listed.
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Multiple Scores
Footballguy
2.01 14. JohnnyU Cook, Jared TEN TE ® 2.03 16. JohnnyU Cook, Jared TEN TE ® You better hope so.
Sinrj
Footballguy
As a group, pehaps but I don't think any of them is better then Olsen, Miller (2007) or Keller, Carlson (2008).
Hoss_Cartwright
Footballguy
You damn straight. Obviously I think so.
bigern1000
Footballguy
Right now, I'd tier them this way:
Tier 1 -- Cook, Pettigrew, Beckum -- all will have the opportunity to produce this year, Beckum borderline Tier 1-2
Tier 2 -- Nelson -- interesting situation with being surrounded by solid skill position players and could be checkdown option
Tier 3 -- Casey, Coffman, Quinn -- either currently blocked by a stud pass-catching TE or not in an offense that has historically featured the TE.
Two months from now, could be a different story...
Tier 1 -- Cook, Pettigrew, Beckum -- all will have the opportunity to produce this year, Beckum borderline Tier 1-2
Tier 2 -- Nelson -- interesting situation with being surrounded by solid skill position players and could be checkdown option
Tier 3 -- Casey, Coffman, Quinn -- either currently blocked by a stud pass-catching TE or not in an offense that has historically featured the TE.
Two months from now, could be a different story...
FantasyTrader
Footballguy
This is my darkhorse from this class. "Raw" doesn't even begin to describe it, but Miller is a physical freak that went to a team with desperate need.
Zach Miller 6-4 233 TE Nebraska-Omaha
40 yard Dash Not invited to the combine ran 4.53 on UNO Pro Day
Vertical Jump Not invited to the combine 37.5” on UNO Pro Day
Birthday 10/4/1984 Age: 24
The Good: Was invited to the division II all-star game where he had less than a month to learn the tight end position and he had five receptions for 116 yards. Has put on 17 pounds since ending his college career. Had a better 40 time and vertical jump on Pro Day than any tight end who attended the combine.
The Bad: Played QB in college. Played against division II competition. Will take time for him to master the new position and gain bulk.
The Truth: Recruited by Nebraska to play quarterback when Frank Solich was still running the show, transferred up the road to Omaha when Solich was let go. Had 1000 yards rushing and passing last season. He has as much upside as anybody in the draft and has proved that he is willing to put in the extra work needed for him to succeed at the next level. Will likely find sticking around difficult but if he is given a chance he could be the sleeper steal tight end of this class.
Drafted: Jacksonville Jaguars-Round 6-Pick Number 180
Zach Miller 6-4 233 TE Nebraska-Omaha
40 yard Dash Not invited to the combine ran 4.53 on UNO Pro Day
Vertical Jump Not invited to the combine 37.5” on UNO Pro Day
Birthday 10/4/1984 Age: 24
The Good: Was invited to the division II all-star game where he had less than a month to learn the tight end position and he had five receptions for 116 yards. Has put on 17 pounds since ending his college career. Had a better 40 time and vertical jump on Pro Day than any tight end who attended the combine.
The Bad: Played QB in college. Played against division II competition. Will take time for him to master the new position and gain bulk.
The Truth: Recruited by Nebraska to play quarterback when Frank Solich was still running the show, transferred up the road to Omaha when Solich was let go. Had 1000 yards rushing and passing last season. He has as much upside as anybody in the draft and has proved that he is willing to put in the extra work needed for him to succeed at the next level. Will likely find sticking around difficult but if he is given a chance he could be the sleeper steal tight end of this class.
Drafted: Jacksonville Jaguars-Round 6-Pick Number 180
Couch Potato
Footballguy
What are the odds of two guys both named Zach Miller and both tight ends being in the NFL.
Hoss_Cartwright
Footballguy
Kellen WinslowWhat are the odds of two guys both named Zach Miller and both tight ends being in the NFL.
Duke1948
Footballguy
Kellen WinslowWhat are the odds of two guys both named Zach Miller and both tight ends being in the NFL.
that would be a Sr. & Jr, don't think the Millers are related.
identikit
Footballguy
Ditto, with Steven JacksonAs crazy as two guys both named Adrian Peterson being running backs.Couch Potato said:What are the odds of two guys both named Zach Miller and both tight ends being in the NFL.FantasyTrader said:
Hoss_Cartwright
Footballguy
That's not what he askedDuke1948 said:Hoss_Cartwright said:Kellen WinslowCouch Potato said:What are the odds of two guys both named Zach Miller and both tight ends being in the NFL.FantasyTrader said:
Brewzers
Footballguy
Coffman caught 90 passes/10 TDs last year and missed two games. He can line up in the slot and has Carson Palmer throwing the rock. He is Dwight Clark like. I really like his chances in Cincinnati.
Jeff Tefertiller
Footballguy
Nelson is the guy I like for this year and Beckum for the TE2 for future.
millertyme1
Footballguy
Coffman looks so stiff. I'd be absolutely shocked if he amounted to anything in the NFL. I see him as 40-50 catch TE at best in the league. I just don't see the whole posting guys up working consistently at the NFL level.
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Sebowski
Footballguy
And Ricky Williams a few years back.Ditto, with Steven JacksonAs crazy as two guys both named Adrian Peterson being running backs.Couch Potato said:What are the odds of two guys both named Zach Miller and both tight ends being in the NFL.FantasyTrader said:
Jeff Tefertiller
Footballguy
how about Steve SmithAnd Ricky Williams a few years back.Ditto, with Steven JacksonAs crazy as two guys both named Adrian Peterson being running backs.Couch Potato said:What are the odds of two guys both named Zach Miller and both tight ends being in the NFL.FantasyTrader said:
Smoke4Brains
Footballguy
Tony Gonzalez?
HUH? How does he have less upside based on the Bills O?
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Who would be Beckum's version of Peyton Manning though?
Chicago Hooligan
Footballguy
I couldn't find a thread devoted to Pettigrew but this one looked worth bumping to discuss him.
I see him falling off the board in 200+ player redrafts so there's really no risk taking him as a TE2.
Who's at WR that will benefit from Calvin Johnson's double coverage? Northcutt and Colbert? Barf. Rookie QBs can get into a groove hitting the TE, and no matter how often he's called on to block Pettigrew will be running routes in many passing situations (and there will indeed be many for the Lions). At 6'6" he'll get red zone looks.
I see him falling off the board in 200+ player redrafts so there's really no risk taking him as a TE2.
Who's at WR that will benefit from Calvin Johnson's double coverage? Northcutt and Colbert? Barf. Rookie QBs can get into a groove hitting the TE, and no matter how often he's called on to block Pettigrew will be running routes in many passing situations (and there will indeed be many for the Lions). At 6'6" he'll get red zone looks.
CanadianNFLJunkie
Footballguy
Really? And why is that? I'd like it the other way. With TO drawing a lot of looks, Nelson will be more of a future player than seeing any type of realistic numbers from him this year. I see Beckum being a huge "green zone" target as well as Ramses Barden.
FUBAR
Footballguy
I agree, I just don't want him to be another Scheffler, he has to be able to stay on the field. Given the Titans line and WRs, I think he will even if he doesn't block better, but I'd be more confident if he did. He can be another Gates.
MAC_32
Footballguy
From a dynasty perspective, because unless you're in 16+ team leagues or start more than one TE you shouldn't expect much from any rookie TE's
Jared Cook, James Casey, Travis Beckum, and Shawn Nelson are the upside plays - in that order. Brandon Pettigrew probably won't ever be great, but could be a low end TE1 for a long time. He's the safe play.
I have very little confidence in Chase Coffman and Cornelius Ingram (and this was before tearing his acl).
If I'm digging deep I'm looking at that Zach Miller character, but highly doubt I roster him right now.
Jared Cook, James Casey, Travis Beckum, and Shawn Nelson are the upside plays - in that order. Brandon Pettigrew probably won't ever be great, but could be a low end TE1 for a long time. He's the safe play.
I have very little confidence in Chase Coffman and Cornelius Ingram (and this was before tearing his acl).
If I'm digging deep I'm looking at that Zach Miller character, but highly doubt I roster him right now.
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
Will be very interested to see how Coffman performs tonight - he'll surely get a lot of reps. They haven't really had a guy like him in a long time (Utecht was supposed to be that guy but has been injured a bunch). He's got a clear path to starting time with the injuries they've had at that position. How the O-Line jells will be a big factor - the more blocking they need the TE to do, the more you'll probably see Daniel Coats out there. Still, I think he'll perform better than what's been usual for the Bengals at that position.
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brakeyawself
Footballguy
As far as TE's go, id say
Coffman, Pettigrew, Beckum.
I think Cook is the best amongst the group the for fantasy purposes, however, I think this could end up similarly to what happened with Colston, as he was eventually moved to WR. I think Colston was TE coming in at least.
If Cook really is as bad a blocker as what Ive been reading, Id expect TEN to either run a lot of two TE sets, or move him to WR. I think moving him to WR is the most likely, as I dont think two TE sets are that popular these days.
Unless he learns how to block of course. This (along with injuries) has kept Scheffler from really becoming elite.
So i hope he goes the way of Colston to be honest. I could use a WR on my teams too.
Coffman, Pettigrew, Beckum.
I think Cook is the best amongst the group the for fantasy purposes, however, I think this could end up similarly to what happened with Colston, as he was eventually moved to WR. I think Colston was TE coming in at least.
If Cook really is as bad a blocker as what Ive been reading, Id expect TEN to either run a lot of two TE sets, or move him to WR. I think moving him to WR is the most likely, as I dont think two TE sets are that popular these days.
Unless he learns how to block of course. This (along with injuries) has kept Scheffler from really becoming elite.
So i hope he goes the way of Colston to be honest. I could use a WR on my teams too.
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