JuniorGong
Footballguy
How many times did he hit driver? I have to imagine that course has the players using driver less than almost any other course they will play this year.encaitar said:
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JuniorGong
Footballguy
He is on the prowl
mr roboto
Footballguy
gump
Footballguy
No doubt, and why JTs run over the last 6 months is way more special than the attention it’s getting. A win on the tour now is harder than ever.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
That's what they said for 15 years until Tiger too. No one could ever do what Jack did because there were so many more better golfers from all over the world.
Someone will eventually come along again.
Rodrigo Duterte
Footballguy
No they won't. There's not enough room in golf for a gap of improvement that large.
mr roboto
Footballguy
Maybe. I’m not so sure. With the length of courses and these young kids coming out soooooo much more fit and talented Tiger fundamentally changed a generation of young golfers.
Apple Jack
Footballguy
His inability to finish well is troubling. Be it a tournament or just a round. So close, but it keeps appearing that just as he's in position to take over there is a snap hook, a missed putt and inevitably bogeys coming in.
gump
Footballguy
Gopher State
Footballguy
Otis
Footballguy
He’s playing great and striking it well. He’s 5 off the lead. In a position to win. Tomorrow will once again be fun.
Underachievers
Footballguy
If he finishes within 10 shots it will be a miracle. He started his inevitable choke job the last 3 holes..
JuniorGong
Footballguy
Early start for everyone today due to weather
Phil Elliott
Footballguy
The putter is puttering.
JaxBill
Footballguy
Through the Memorial, Tiger is ranked 80th. AFAIK, the only tournaments he has committed to help him qualify for Bridgestone are US Open (Shinnecock), the National (TPC Potomac), and The Open (Carnoustie).
Last time at Shinnecock was T17 in 2004, 14 strokes back. Phil and he played a practice round there last week. Mickelson said the fairways are much wider than before but the rough is still brutal.
Only 2nd year at TPC Potomac so no track record.
Last time at Carnoustie was 2007. T12, 5 strokes back.
Tiger has said he really wants to play Bridgestone because it's the final year in Akron. (Aside from the fact that he's playing a Bridgestone ball now.). He'll need at least a top 5 in one of those tournaments and probably a top 10 also
Binky The Doormat
Footballguy
The Man With No Name
Footballguy
Me either. I will probably go to at least 1 day then. Been awhile since I've been there
JuniorGong
Footballguy
That is a boss move, he is going to be tagging trashy Long Island broads two, tree at a time.
The General
Footballguy
AAABatteries
Footballguy
I root for him but seems to be a pattern of sorts in the majors where he just gets off to a horrible start. Almost impossible to overcome.
gump
Footballguy
One of my most memorable sports experiences was the first time i saw him at Augusta...on the 8 tee, after bogeying 7, on Thursday. He was the 15th group or so we saw come thru up close. He was BY FAR the most intense that early in the tournament. Some players still seemed to be settling in...he was leaned over his driver quietly yelling at himself.
Historically he hasn't started well, even in his prime...as if he gets too amped.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Seems to have settled in nicely.
grateful zed
Footballguy
Stinkin Ref
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The General
Footballguy
What are the odds he wins one more major. 10 - 15%?
need2know
Footballguy
I can see it now, Tiger tees it up as an Honorary Starter at the Masters in 2030:
Otis: "I think this is the year he finally gets another Green Jacket. I am sure he still has another major in him! He has been real close [to the fairway] the last few starts..."
Gopher State
Footballguy
Tiger is 42 now
Top 10 Majors - age of last major win:
Nicklaus - 46 (1986)
Woods - 32 (2008)
Hagan - 36 (1929)
Hogan - 40 (1953)
Player - 42 (1978)
Watson - 33 (1983)
Sarazen - 33 (1935)
Palmer - 34 (1964)
Snead - 41 (1954)
Jones - 41 (1954)
Vardon - 44 (1914)
So, 2 of the all-time greats won a major at an age older than Tiger, and neither, to my knowledge, had any back surgeries, and Jack's win was 32 years ago now - when the competition was a bit thinner. Tiger is not going to win another major. Sorry.
Top 10 Majors - age of last major win:
Nicklaus - 46 (1986)
Woods - 32 (2008)
Hagan - 36 (1929)
Hogan - 40 (1953)
Player - 42 (1978)
Watson - 33 (1983)
Sarazen - 33 (1935)
Palmer - 34 (1964)
Snead - 41 (1954)
Jones - 41 (1954)
Vardon - 44 (1914)
So, 2 of the all-time greats won a major at an age older than Tiger, and neither, to my knowledge, had any back surgeries, and Jack's win was 32 years ago now - when the competition was a bit thinner. Tiger is not going to win another major. Sorry.
The General
Footballguy
Serious. There has to be a place that has these odds somewhere. 10% chance seems about right to me. Maybe less.
The General
Footballguy
Serious. There has to be a place that has these odds somewhere. 10% chance seems about right to me. Maybe less.
The General
Footballguy
Conditioning and sports medicine is much more advanced now and Tiger was a unique talent so I’d give him better odds to do it than anyone up to this point. One is possible but highly unlikely. Catching Jack is probably about the same odds as Browns Super Bowl next year
40 majors have been played since Tiger last won a major.
But, you think he has a 1 in 10 chance of winning one now?
I'd say there is a better chance that Tiger does not play 10 more majors, than he actual wins one. He is s not getting younger, nor healthier. He is more likely to break down physically than he is to find the consistency he needs to win a tournament over 72 holes, let alone a major. His last top-10 finish in a major was 5 years ago.
Tiger had the greatest 11-year run in the history of golf. But that was over 10 years ago...it's time to stop holding onto hope for one last fling.
The General
Footballguy
I tend to agree with all you said. He was so great that he gets a bump for catching lighting in a bottle for 4 days. He was competing at a high level earlier this year against top players.
The bet you mentioned that he plays 10 more majors is a pretty good one for an even odds bet. I’d say he does that for sure but it’s pretty fair.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
The General
Footballguy
Underachievers
Footballguy
It shows how bad Tiger has gotten when even his fans abandon this thread. He just played in the US Open and his appearance couldn't even muster one full page of thoughts.
encaitar
Footballguy
I think everyone is being a bit premature on everything right now. It’s been 5 years since Tiger was healthy for more than 6 months. He had back fusion, changed his swing and is figuring it all out right now.
Last two times Tiger changed his swing it took him over a year to look right again. Hard to say if it’ll happen again, but if he still looks off next Spring after being healthy all year, then we can start picking out the gravestones.
Besides, this was a ridiculously hard course that you needed to be 100% for to even make the cut. Look at the guys who missed. It’s littered with top 20 names. Taking too much out of this result is a mistake IMO.
Last two times Tiger changed his swing it took him over a year to look right again. Hard to say if it’ll happen again, but if he still looks off next Spring after being healthy all year, then we can start picking out the gravestones.
Besides, this was a ridiculously hard course that you needed to be 100% for to even make the cut. Look at the guys who missed. It’s littered with top 20 names. Taking too much out of this result is a mistake IMO.
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