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Of course you don't; but we'll wait and see if they turn up.While I don't have the redzone stats right in front of me...What are the odds VanCutlerManLoveFan comes back with his boy's red zone stats?Hey Papa Cut, how's your boy stack up against say, Rodgers, in the red zone?
Rodgers 30 TDs 1 INT
Not that the red zone really counts for anything...yardage is KING!
I have him in a dynasty league and will hold him until next year.I may have to start him next week against STL for the final time this year.
My problem with that pass is that it was 2nd and 3 at the time. Why not run the ball? Answer: because they can't. The Bears had 8 designed rushes. 8 - and one of those was with 12 seconds left in the first half on their own 20. Up until that play, the Bears had run 24 plays - 4 of which were runs. Ron Turner's pay calling is horrific. They can't even run play action, because no one will bight anyway. Troy Aikman made a great comment about Cutler not even seeing most of the passes that are caught becuase he' s always on his back. He has no running game, no OL protection, and poor NFL WRs - but other than that he's fine.Has he made bad decisions? Yes. But to blame him for the Bears woes is extremely short-sighted.
yeah, and when they made that trade I think plenty of people pointed that out.you're a few months late.
As amazing a QB the Cutler camp claims in here, you'd think he would be able to pull off a winning record without a perfect team.... All these excuses.... Last season it was the Def, this season it's everyone on offense but him.... Wow... Quit making excuses and admit he isn't top 5 material....
Cutler = Grossmanlol
When they made the trade, the WRs were the point made. The O-line had been decent and some thought the acquisition of Omiyale and Pace would help even more. Forte had been great his rookie season, and NO ONE saw that drop off coming (which is why he went as a top 5 RB in most redraft leagues - and was ranked as such by virtually every "expert"). But thanks for the insight.Again, I am not making excuses for the guy. Simply pointing out what guys like Troy Aikman and other people who know alot more about football and the QB position than I do have said about the situation.
Just to follow up on your insightful post
, here are some Passing stats for the Bears over the past 8 years:
Other are saying "Yeah, but he learned from JAKE PLUMMER!!!"Year Wins Losses Coach RK ATT COMP PCT YDS YDS/A LONG TD INT SACK YDSL RATE YDS/G2009 4 7 Lovie Smith 14 406 254 62.6 2526 6.6 68 16 20 24 148 74.3 2302008 9 7 Lovie Smith 21 528 304 57.6 3061 6.1 65 20 14 29 168 77.1 1912007 7 9 Lovie Smith 15 569 327 57.5 3362 6.5 81 18 21 43 339 72.2 2102006 13 3 Lovie Smith 14 514 282 54.9 3281 6.7 75 24 22 25 165 73.5 2052005 11 5 Lovie Smith 31 418 219 52.4 2002 5.3 54 11 15 31 199 61.5 1252004 5 11 Lovie Smith 32 471 249 52.9 2192 5.6 63 9 16 66 449 61.7 1372003 7 9 **** Jauron 30 515 271 52.6 2617 5.6 61 12 20 43 288 61 1642002 4 12 **** Jauron 24 543 310 57.1 3051 6.1 76 22 18 44 265 74.8 191Shh . . . this is my favorite part of the week. The Cutlerettes have a blind devotion to their guy that I have not seen since the Jim Jones days.
I don't really agree with this being the receivers' fault at all. Earl Bennett has caught most any pass that is catchable and Hester and Knox have provided explosive plays; Olsen has played well. On that INT in the red zone Cutler underthrew Knox. That was all Cutler.I do think coaching and OL deserve some blame because they don't even offer the pretense of a running game and give up on it in the first quarter and the OL doesn't protect Cutler well. But the bottom line is that Cutler is playing like a very average or even below average QB this season and it isn't the receivers--they are a pleasant surprise.
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I have defended Cutler a lot of the past year, but even I have to admit that he has not played well the last month or so. He is trying to do too much and is making too many bad decisions and bad mistakes. His play has regressed. He was not this mediocre in Denver. He needs coaching and a serious mental overhaul if he is ever gonna turn the corner and become the QB that many of us think he can be.
VandyCutlerFanatic, don't forget yesterday's game when you finish up with your numbers. Thanks a bunch.Of course you don't; but we'll wait and see if they turn up.While I don't have the redzone stats right in front of me...What are the odds VanCutlerManLoveFan comes back with his boy's red zone stats?
Rodgers 30 TDs 1 INT
Not that the red zone really counts for anything...yardage is KING!
As for Rodgers, he now has something like 35 TDs in the redzone, with one INT. ONE.
StrikeS2k said:
As for Urlacher, there might be some truth to what he is saying, but he is awfully mouthy for a guy who hasn't been much help to his team the last few years because he is always hurt.
The whole team is pretty much in the tank, Kyle Orton still being a Bear wouldn't change anything. They are miles from being able to put a good team on the field. I like Urlacher but he needs to keep his opinions in the locker room. I don't know if he's ticked because he's no longer the face of the franchise or because he knows his skills are diminishing and the end is approaching, but handle it with some class. He needs to focus on his own game.Lesson to Bears fans... be careful what you wish for, you might just get it.
yeah, wouldn't it change the number of first rounders they have?
Losing a top-10 pick will save some money though.
Hmmmm, for some reason, I thought Urlacher had been a lot more injury-prone over the years. I stand corrected. But I still think that is something that Urlacher, a team leader, should keep to himself or at least within the locker room. No good can come from comments like those.
lol. you can save money by signing crap players and staying under the cap too. Didn't realize that was the endgame for teams...
Given the Bears drafting record, that might be for the best.
I am just trying to find the silver lining for Bear's fans. It was a terrible deal. Signing Cutler to an extension was a terrible deal - trying to mask the first terrible deal.But, it will save them money, and a new GM will have more money to spend on FA, which might be a better use of the money given the number of holes that must be filled.
if the Bears really want to change their identity - they should hire Weis today and let Lovie focus on defense, and Weis on offense. I just think they are not well suited to be the high-flying offense they want to be. Should spend their money on re-building the defense and offensive lines.Of course, Weis might have the same opinion of Cutler that McDaniels did - that Cutler cannot handle the offensive decisions that need to be made in that offense.
Cutler is a poor man's Eric Kramer......but with more INTs.
You also gotta love all those threads last summer...just hoardes of posters who knew how bad the Broncos f'd up, and how great Jay was. And then the Urlacher Vegas story being totally dismissed; even though it mad plenty of sense. Writing on the wall everywhere you looked, from Denver to Chicago, but no, FF'ers knew better, and the proof would be in the pudding come fall.
God I love it.
With the uncapped year looming, I'm not sure cap is a big an issue....And even if the agreement is renegotiated and fixed. I think the cap will be addressed along with the rookie contracts....Sinn Fein said:I am just trying to find the silver lining for Bear's fans. It was a terrible deal. Signing Cutler to an extension was a terrible deal - trying to mask the first terrible deal.But, it will save them money, and a new GM will have more money to spend on FA, which might be a better use of the money given the number of holes that must be filled.Carolina Hustler said:Sinn Fein said:
Under Lovie the Bears have consistently been outcoached. I also love his challenging of obvious plays costing the team timeouts. Defensive breakdowns have been the norm since the Super Bowl year and the Super Bowl was a great example of Lovie sticking to a failing plan on defense when it is obvious the offense is being successful.This team is married to Cutler now first and foremost. It needs to surround him with whatever is needed. The defense should be trimmed of its veterans where the salary cap would be helped by doing so including Urlacher. Any money then should be spent on the offensive side of the ball on the o-line first and on weapons second. With that wonderfully high 3rd round pick, the Bears should begin taking defensive personnel that fit the next scheme. Lovie needs to be gone as well and a QB and O-Coordinator that will get in Cutler's face and mentor him is first priority.2010 should be looked at as a regrouping year. I hope the organization is willing to eat Lovie's salary and do what is needed. But I have been a Bears fan long enough to not expect any of it to happen.
I think if they work hard at it, they've got a shot at being the '08 broncos in a couple years.hire shanahan!
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