Punters (1 Viewer)

I didn't even know this was an option in FF leagues.

Buddies and I have one money, one fun league. Well, the fun league went to hell with the rosters. We have punters.

I take all my teams pretty seriously, and I don't even know how to begin to rate who is a decent punter. Hunter Smith is a name I see at the top of punter lists.

Any tips? lol

You get two points for a touch back? Should be -2.

The problem with punters is that their scoring system can vary from league to league. I am in an experts league where punters get 4 points inside the 20 and average yards per punt get 15 bonus for over 45, 0 points for 35.0, and then 0.1 point for every 0.1 thereafter.

In this league they are just as important as a QB, but a lot of teams don't realize it. BTW, FBGs is in this league.

ATC1 said:

The problem with punters is that their scoring system can vary from league to league. I am in an experts league where punters get 4 points inside the 20 and average yards per punt get 15 bonus for over 45, 0 points for 35.0, and then 0.1 point for every 0.1 thereafter.

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1. 6. Lechler, Shane OAK PN 415.59 2. 8. Jones, Donnie STL PN 401.03 3. 15. Koch, Sam BAL PN 350.18 4. 16. Kluwe, Chris MIN PN 329.44 5. 25. Baker, Jason CAR PN 318.62 6. 44. Lee, Andy SFO PN 298.55 7. 46. Zastudil, Dave CLE PN 296.20 8. 50. Moorman, Brian BUF PN 291.04 9. 53. Bidwell, Josh TBB PN 288.35 10. 54. Harris, Nick DET PN 288.16 11. 56. Smith, Hunter IND PN 287.15 12. 59. Ryan, Jon SEA PN 286.60 13. 67. Maynard, Brad CHI PN 283.76 14. 71. Scifres, Mike SDC PN 278.09 15. 75. Fields, Brandon MIA PN 274.52

In this league they are just as important as a QB, but a lot of teams don't realize it. BTW, FBGs is in this league.

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I defer all management of the punters to our head coach in HAFAX, so I'm not going to be much help here unfortunately. Certainly like having Lechler around, though.

Daniel Sepulveda

League I was in last year with punters was lead by the Lions punters.

I would guess the punter with the most opportunities would score the most points

I'm not sure on it...but I try and pick the punters from teams with poor offenses and QBs who don't turn the ball over much. More punting opportunities.

Redskins, Rams, Raiders, Jets, Bucs....

Thats my theory at least. We'll see how it plays out this year

Bidwell (another testicular cancer survivor, btw) is on IR with his hip injury - Dirk Johnson is a replacement.

I'm in 2 leagues with punters, and scoring is very important. In one league, you lose pts for each punt, and then get punt yards - so a 40 yard punt nets to 0 pts, longer pts gives positive pts, and less gives negative pts. Punts inside the 20 get the equivalent of an extra 15 yards punting. All in all, punters aren't very important, but a guy like Lechler is in the top 100 overall. Because we're not penalized for return yards etc, the trick in this league is to target good punters who are on bad offenses (or have good defenses with below average offenses, ball control, etc) who will be punting often.

The fact that you lose 3 pts per punt returned is actually interesting... I don't know, because my leagues don't do that, but it may be a situation where someone who punts a lot could actually be bad.

E.g., 4 pts for 200 total yards, would get you +8 pts - and if everyone was returned (ANY distance?), then you actually lose 4 pts.

Also, some leagues give pts for tackles etc, in which case a guy like Sepulveda is definitely worth keeping an eye on.

I've been playing with Punters for 20 years. My best advice is to take Punters on horrible offenses who punt a lot.

Last year Donnie Jones was fantastic. A couple of years ago Andy Lee fit the bill. Lechler is always among the leading scorers.

Just due your due diligence and keep and eye on the waiver wire early in the season. Usually a good one pops up from nowhere.

why would a punt downed inside the 20 be worth 1pt while a touchback is worth 2pts? that scoring system seems off.

Aaron Rudnicki said:

why would a punt downed inside the 20 be worth 1pt while a touchback is worth 2pts? that scoring system seems off.

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I wondered that too but its because they lose points for returned punts (-3). A touchback is more valuable fantasy-wise than a returnable kick.

Zoomanji said:

Aaron Rudnicki said:

why would a punt downed inside the 20 be worth 1pt while a touchback is worth 2pts? that scoring system seems off.

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I wondered that too but its because they lose points for returned punts (-3). A touchback is more valuable fantasy-wise than a returnable kick.

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Still seems wrong. In real NFL terms, most punts won't be returned inside the 10 anyway. And, of course, the touchback is not a preferable action if the return still keeps them within the 20. (I.e., a 5 yard return from the 10 is still better than a touchback). There's no reason to REWARD someone for a touchback, when in part that's already baked in because they're not losing 3 pts.In the grand scheme it's not a big deal, but just seems silly.If you're going to use the return against them, shouldn't it be something based on yardage, etc? Instead of whether it WAS returned or not, just count it against them in terms of actual yards.

corpcow said:

Zoomanji said:

Aaron Rudnicki said:

why would a punt downed inside the 20 be worth 1pt while a touchback is worth 2pts? that scoring system seems off.

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I wondered that too but its because they lose points for returned punts (-3). A touchback is more valuable fantasy-wise than a returnable kick.

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Still seems wrong. In real NFL terms, most punts won't be returned inside the 10 anyway. And, of course, the touchback is not a preferable action if the return still keeps them within the 20. (I.e., a 5 yard return from the 10 is still better than a touchback). There's no reason to REWARD someone for a touchback, when in part that's already baked in because they're not losing 3 pts.In the grand scheme it's not a big deal, but just seems silly.If you're going to use the return against them, shouldn't it be something based on yardage, etc? Instead of whether it WAS returned or not, just count it against them in terms of actual yards.

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I agree with you and it looks like they are only penalized if its returned whether its for 1 yard or 75 yards. I wonder how a return for negative yards is scored? Seems to be just a little glich in the scoring system IMO

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I agree with you and it looks like they are only penalized if its returned whether its for 1 yard or 75 yards. I wonder how a return for negative yards is scored? Seems to be just a little glich in the scoring system IMO

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I would think that ANY return - positive or negative - counts for -3.... which certainly seems questionable eh?