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Ochocinco vs Pittsburgh (1 Viewer)
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brewer
Footballguy
I know what you are going for here, but how many of those games did the Steelers start a third string safety?
Chaka
Footballguy
I am not going for anything.I am providing data, nothing more.
Bermuda_Chub
Footballguy
Thanks very much. Not very encouraging, but I will be starting him regardless.
Carters going to play. He'll likely be limited in practice on Wednesday and his workload should increase through the week. It's possible he won't respond to treatment, but it sounded like Tomlin expected him to.
The Jerk
Footballguy
More importantly, will the Steelers recognize him now that his jersey no longer says Johnson?
Chaka
Footballguy
Average without Troy Polamalu (4 games): 5.3 catches, 75 yards, 0 TDs
Frank Black
Footballguy
Wow, the OP takes the time to share some stats and someone responds by claiming (in a way that seems somewhat negatively) to know why the OP posted the stats, while another poster laughs at the OP for sharing the info.
Nice response, folks.
OP, thanks in earnest for sharing the info.
Nice response, folks.
OP, thanks in earnest for sharing the info.
Chaka
Footballguy
No worries FB. I don't think it was that bad and I seldom take stuff in here personally.btw you have one of my all time favorite avatars.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Not sure it is going to matter much. CB Ike Taylor is usually the matchup on OchoCinco and has historically done a great job.
brewer
Footballguy
Wow, seriously? Lighten up Francis.A top end WR with a projected stat line of 60 yards and 10% chance of a TD can only suggest one thing in my mind, bench him. Sorry if I jumped to the conclusion that is what the OP was suggesting. For what it's worth, I do appreciate the info(thanks OP) and discussion it has generated.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
CJ is not a stud.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
I don't like benching the most interesting footballer in the world, but with Marion Barber out I think Felix against Carolina may get the start in the FLEX.
ceo3west
Footballguy
He will be again this year.
Chaka
Footballguy
He is having a nice start to his season. It looks as if the Bengals are making a serious play to be a ball control team (30.5 rush/game & 28 pass/game) so I am not sure Ocho is going to get a ton of opportunities (7 targets each game) but he has been making the most of those targets with a 20ypc.He will definitely finish as a high end #2 fantasy WR with an outside shot at breaking into the top 10 (if things break his way).
So you are saying he is due.
Chaka
Footballguy
Yes, have some.So you are saying he is due.
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
Particularly when matched up against a healthy Ike Taylor, to this point in both their careers anyway.Johnson mouthed off about the Steelers secondary, and Taylor in particular, a while back. It musta motivated Ivan, because not only did he make Johnson his kitty that game, but he's pretty much been a different player ever since. So, as a Steeler fan, I guess I should thank Chad? Fine. "Thanks, Chad."
The Ref
Footballguy
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Maven
Footballguy
That was funny lol...
It helps that Troy is out and Carter is nicked but the WR's who tend to be able to do well against the Steelers are those WR's who run shorter routes. QB's just don't have the time to go downfield consistently on the Steelers so I would agree with the OP that Chad has a poor matchup this week but unless you are in a pretty shallow league it's tough to see how you would have better options. I know I don't in the two leagues I have him.
Frank Black
Footballguy
Seriously, I think we both know that my comments were aimed at the ridiculing nature of some of the comments. I, I like you, value debate on the boards and I appreciate the discussion that the OP's comments generated except the comments that seem like personal ridicule. If you can't see that, I don't know what else to say.
That said, I seriously wonder about Chad today. Are the Steeelers' injuries enough to make a difference for Chad?
Frank Black
Footballguy
Good question Ripley, I don't know how to forecast production from Henry and Coles today.
Very true. However, the Steelers haven't gotten the pass rush that they are accustomed to so far. A large part of that is the absence of Polamalu. Without him, LeBeau has been less aggressive, and the blitzes that he has called haven't had the success rate that you expect from the Steelers. I'm not saying this means 85 is gonna explode, but his chances for success are better than if Polamalu was healthy.
Chaka
Footballguy
Chris Henry vs PittOverall average: 3 catches, 49 yards, 0.4 TD (7 games)Home average: 2 catches, 56 yards, 0.33 TD (3 games)Away average: 3.5 catches, 44 yards, 0.5 TD (4 games)With Palmer: 3 catches, 55 yards, 0.6 TD (5 games)Without Palmer: 2.5 catches, 34 yards, 0 TD (2 games)His best games came in 2006 with Palmer: 5 catches, 69 yards, 2TD (@ Pitt) & 4 catches 124 yards, 1 TD (home)can you do this same thing for Chris Henry vs Steelers?
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Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Thanks Chaka... he's hardly been a world-beater, but his 12.8 ppg in the nine games with Palmer isn't going to lose it for you either.
brewer
Footballguy
Truce.Probably not. It may make a difference for Chris Henry or whatever TE is healthy and playing for the Bengals these days though. I have a bad feeling that Carson Palmer will get his numbers today, I only expect Chad to get about 80 of those yards though. 50% chance to get a TD. I expect that the Steelers D will shut down Benson and that most of the Bengals yards will come through the air.... I've been wrong before though!Seriously, I think we both know that my comments were aimed at the ridiculing nature of some of the comments. I, I like you, value debate on the boards and I appreciate the discussion that the OP's comments generated except the comments that seem like personal ridicule. If you can't see that, I don't know what else to say.That said, I seriously wonder about Chad today. Are the Steeelers' injuries enough to make a difference for Chad?
Chaka
Footballguy
I tried to get this for you but the question broke the innerwebs.
bjlmonster
Footballguy
Steelers are only ranked 18th against the pass after first two weeks. I think they will stuff Benson, but will give up some yds and TD's through the air!
Stillers Jr.
Footballguy
Remember when Troy hit CJ so hard his gold teeth came out?
HAHAH!!
HAHAH!!
tomarken
Footballguy
This was pretty spot on.
