Rice the answerClev only has 2 Rbs rostered right now, correct? No way they go into this season with just 2 guys. Especially when one of those guys has already been injured 2x this preseason.
It's Monday, the game is Sunday. Are they going to have him in at some point?Rice the answerClev only has 2 Rbs rostered right now, correct? No way they go into this season with just 2 guys. Especially when one of those guys has already been injured 2x this preseason.
I like all 3 of the mini wr's, but until they get injured they will steal from each other.Besides Crowell & Duke, have locals or Browns fans been drafting any sleepers from the team?
Contrary to the whiners, I view this stuff optimistically. If they're willing to keep the producers and dump the knuckleheads regardless of draft position, I'm enthused. That being said, Justin Gilbert better smarten up!So last year's third round pick and this year's fourth no longer on the team...
West traded for a conditional 7th round pick right?
i agree. it does suck to whiff on picks in the top few rounds, but everyone does it.Contrary to the whiners, I view this stuff optimistically. If they're willing to keep the producers and dump the knuckleheads regardless of draft position, I'm enthused. That being said, Justin Gilbert better smarten up!So last year's third round pick and this year's fourth no longer on the team...
West traded for a conditional 7th round pick right?
I was really hoping he'd be a surprise cut. Not a fan of the pick at the time, but this? Never imagined. He's the last db on the depth chart. I hope they aren't married to him beyond Sep 1 next year...Contrary to the whiners, I view this stuff optimistically. If they're willing to keep the producers and dump the knuckleheads regardless of draft position, I'm enthused. That being said, Justin Gilbert better smarten up!So last year's third round pick and this year's fourth no longer on the team...
West traded for a conditional 7th round pick right?
iirc, if he's claimed vs. clearing waivers the team he goes to is responsible for his contract. not sure what he was making, but cap space might be an issue. and I'm a browns fan living in Denver. ball has looked like JAG since he got here.I predict that the Browns will claim Monte Ball.
Suspended Browns OL coach Andy Moeller allegedly assaulted a female guest at his home over the weekend.
The woman is believed to be Moeller's girlfriend. Or maybe ex-girlfriend now. But being that she didn't live in the residence, it's not classified as a "domestic" issue, merely your simple assault. Charges have yet to be filed by the prosecutor. Either way, Moeller has been suspended indefinitely by the team.
Does anyone have a clue on what the Browns are doing?Clev only has 2 Rbs rostered right now, correct? No way they go into this season with just 2 guys. Especially when one of those guys has already been injured 2x this preseason.
this probably means they wont sign ray rice..From Rotoworld:
Suspended Browns OL coach Andy Moeller allegedly assaulted a female guest at his home over the weekend.
The woman is believed to be Moeller's girlfriend. Or maybe ex-girlfriend now. But being that she didn't live in the residence, it's not classified as a "domestic" issue, merely your simple assault. Charges have yet to be filed by the prosecutor. Either way, Moeller has been suspended indefinitely by the team.
Draughn was activated today. Still, really Clev? Going into an actual NFL game with just 2 RBs, 1 you just pulled from practice squad?SaintsInDome2006 said:Does anyone have a clue on what the Browns are doing?Clev only has 2 Rbs rostered right now, correct? No way they go into this season with just 2 guys. Especially when one of those guys has already been injured 2x this preseason.
Ike is their only healthy halfback on the active roster right now, right?
Is this how they are going to roll on Sunday? Or maybe Duke gets cleared and Draughn gets activated by Sunday?
can Pryor play RB?Draughn was activated today. Still, really Clev? Going into an actual NFL game with just 2 RBs, 1 you just pulled from practice squad?SaintsInDome2006 said:Does anyone have a clue on what the Browns are doing?Clev only has 2 Rbs rostered right now, correct? No way they go into this season with just 2 guys. Especially when one of those guys has already been injured 2x this preseason.
Ike is their only healthy halfback on the active roster right now, right?
Is this how they are going to roll on Sunday? Or maybe Duke gets cleared and Draughn gets activated by Sunday?
Todman claimed two days ago can play eh? So he knows where to line up and they trust him in pass-pro? And Dri Archer isn't anything other than a 3rd down specialist. The Browns drafted a FB who has looked great catching the ball and I'm sure they'll use him a lot if Duke isn't cleared in the next five days.Yeah, the Steelers have 3 guys who can play. Clev has 2...
If Duke clears then all is good IMO. If he doesn't this is looking very ugly, potentially. If Crow were to get injured they are screwed. Only having 2 RBs capable of playing is a big risk IMO.Todman claimed two days ago can play eh? So he knows where to line up and they trust him in pass-pro? And Dri Archer isn't anything other than a 3rd down specialist. The Browns drafted a FB who has looked great catching the ball and I'm sure they'll use him a lot if Duke isn't cleared in the next five days.Yeah, the Steelers have 3 guys who can play. Clev has 2...
Its not unreasonable to expect he will be cleared since his concussion happed in the third preseason game so it will over two weeks by game time.
Lol, sorry the Browns are not screwed if Crow gets injured. I like Draughns a lot BTW.If Duke clears then all is good IMO. If he doesn't this is looking very ugly, potentially. If Crow were to get injured they are screwed. Only having 2 RBs capable of playing is a big risk IMO.Todman claimed two days ago can play eh? So he knows where to line up and they trust him in pass-pro? And Dri Archer isn't anything other than a 3rd down specialist. The Browns drafted a FB who has looked great catching the ball and I'm sure they'll use him a lot if Duke isn't cleared in the next five days.Yeah, the Steelers have 3 guys who can play. Clev has 2...
Its not unreasonable to expect he will be cleared since his concussion happed in the third preseason game so it will over two weeks by game time.
You can like Draughn all you want but he was just on the practice squad, presumably for a reason. I'm in no way confident in what Pitt has at RB right now but seeing you outline it makes me view it as far better than what Clev has, if Duke isn't playing.Lol, sorry the Browns are not screwed if Crow gets injured. I like Draughns a lot BTW.If a team loses a superstar that cannot be replaced they are screwed. If a team loses an easily replaceable RB who was a FA acquisition they aren't screwed. If we lost Joe Thomas or Joe Haden then yeah any hope of a respectable season is gone. I like Draughn a lot and think he's very under rated and under the radar. I love Duke and I also like the guy we put on IR and who is eligible to return in a few months Glenn Winston. Farmer picked up Winston early last year off the wire and Draughns after he cut Tate so he liked Winston even before he was considering cutting Tate so he really likes him.If Duke clears then all is good IMO. If he doesn't this is looking very ugly, potentially. If Crow were to get injured they are screwed. Only having 2 RBs capable of playing is a big risk IMO.Todman claimed two days ago can play eh? So he knows where to line up and they trust him in pass-pro? And Dri Archer isn't anything other than a 3rd down specialist. The Browns drafted a FB who has looked great catching the ball and I'm sure they'll use him a lot if Duke isn't cleared in the next five days.Yeah, the Steelers have 3 guys who can play. Clev has 2...
Its not unreasonable to expect he will be cleared since his concussion happed in the third preseason game so it will over two weeks by game time.
As for wild speculation, if the Steelers lose DeAngelo that game could get ugly and the next game as well since LeVeon is out the first two games. Its sorta silly to assume Crown and Draughn will get injured.
Nobody seems to get freaked out around here but you....Lol, well then you go and have a freak out then, lol.
He's played four games. Slow the roll on Cardale...Just so I know... Is our rally cry going to be #Fail4Cardale this year? Want to be sure I have it spelled right for my Jersey.
No doubt. I was more laughing at the fact that this is becoming a thing and the team hasn't played their first game yet. I like Cardale's game, but it is too early to think/worry about that stuff.He's played four games. Slow the roll on Cardale...Just so I know... Is our rally cry going to be #Fail4Cardale this year? Want to be sure I have it spelled right for my Jersey.
Actually they've been calling him that since last year on local radio here in Cleveland.well, that's some pretty damning information right there, if you ask me.They didn't call him Terrance "East to" West for nothing.. and by they I mean me.West never impressed me.
he would have some decent runs, and then have several where he never cut upfield.
also reading between the lines it sounds like he may have an attitude problem.
seemed to me like he was an OK back, but had zero upside.
looks like a tallest midget contest.. Pitts Oline < Cle OLine..You can like Draughn all you want but he was just on the practice squad, presumably for a reason.I'm in no way confident in what Pitt has at RB right now but seeing you outline it makes me view it as far better than what Clev has, if Duke isn't playing.Lol, sorry the Browns are not screwed if Crow gets injured. I like Draughns a lot BTW.If a team loses a superstar that cannot be replaced they are screwed. If a team loses an easily replaceable RB who was a FA acquisition they aren't screwed. If we lost Joe Thomas or Joe Haden then yeah any hope of a respectable season is gone. I like Draughn a lot and think he's very under rated and under the radar. I love Duke and I also like the guy we put on IR and who is eligible to return in a few months Glenn Winston. Farmer picked up Winston early last year off the wire and Draughns after he cut Tate so he liked Winston even before he was considering cutting Tate so he really likes him.If Duke clears then all is good IMO. If he doesn't this is looking very ugly, potentially. If Crow were to get injured they are screwed. Only having 2 RBs capable of playing is a big risk IMO.Todman claimed two days ago can play eh? So he knows where to line up and they trust him in pass-pro? And Dri Archer isn't anything other than a 3rd down specialist. The Browns drafted a FB who has looked great catching the ball and I'm sure they'll use him a lot if Duke isn't cleared in the next five days.Yeah, the Steelers have 3 guys who can play. Clev has 2...
Its not unreasonable to expect he will be cleared since his concussion happed in the third preseason game so it will over two weeks by game time.
As for wild speculation, if the Steelers lose DeAngelo that game could get ugly and the next game as well since LeVeon is out the first two games. Its sorta silly to assume Crown and Draughn will get injured.
Just rating the group of backs;
Williams
Crow
Todman
Archer
Draughn
Ranking them isn't really the crux of the point, though. Maybe you like the Clev duo better than all 3 Pitt RBs. It doesn't really matter. Sometimes it's just about having viable bodies. Pitt is in a far better position to withstand an injury because there have power in numbers, 3 guys as opposed to 2.
So, lol about it all you want but there is a reason it's rare, extremely rare, for NFL teams to carry only 2 RBs into an actual game. It's a violent game and RB is perhaps the most violent position.
Mary Kay Cabot @MaryKayCabot 5h5 hours ago
#Browns OC Flip: "I told the guys this morning that no one has to go out and play like Superman for us to win this game"
Probably directed at QB Josh McCowan who took some unnecessary hits in the third preseason game when he ran and didn't slide and another time when he held onto the ball took long and got rocked by a linebacker. If Josh goes down Johnny is the only backup who knows the offense and he has been suffering from tendinitis and only recently began throwing again.Way to coach`em up, Flip.Mary Kay Cabot @MaryKayCabot 5h5 hours ago
#Browns OC Flip: "I told the guys this morning that no one has to go out and play like Superman for us to win this game"
The Steelers also have a hall of fame QB that doesn't need to rely on the run.Todman claimed two days ago can play eh? So he knows where to line up and they trust him in pass-pro? And Dri Archer isn't anything other than a 3rd down specialist. The Browns drafted a FB who has looked great catching the ball and I'm sure they'll use him a lot if Duke isn't cleared in the next five days.Yeah, the Steelers have 3 guys who can play. Clev has 2...
Its not unreasonable to expect he will be cleared since his concussion happed in the third preseason game so it will over two weeks by game time.
i try to avoid listening to the local guys as much as possible. i read Pluto occasionally, but that's about it.Actually they've been calling him that since last year on local radio here in Cleveland.well, that's some pretty damning information right there, if you ask me.They didn't call him Terrance "East to" West for nothing.. and by they I mean me.West never impressed me.
he would have some decent runs, and then have several where he never cut upfield.
also reading between the lines it sounds like he may have an attitude problem.
seemed to me like he was an OK back, but had zero upside.
that's another reason this Turbin signing doesn't make sense. he's hurt for 4-6 weeks, why not sign him after week one?looks like a tallest midget contest.. Pitts Oline < Cle OLine.. heard on the radio a couple days ago that 1 rumor is that the Borwns will sign a RB immediately after week 1. Something to do with avoiding guaranteed money for whomever is signed.You can like Draughn all you want but he was just on the practice squad, presumably for a reason.I'm in no way confident in what Pitt has at RB right now but seeing you outline it makes me view it as far better than what Clev has, if Duke isn't playing.Lol, sorry the Browns are not screwed if Crow gets injured. I like Draughns a lot BTW.If a team loses a superstar that cannot be replaced they are screwed. If a team loses an easily replaceable RB who was a FA acquisition they aren't screwed. If we lost Joe Thomas or Joe Haden then yeah any hope of a respectable season is gone. I like Draughn a lot and think he's very under rated and under the radar. I love Duke and I also like the guy we put on IR and who is eligible to return in a few months Glenn Winston. Farmer picked up Winston early last year off the wire and Draughns after he cut Tate so he liked Winston even before he was considering cutting Tate so he really likes him.If Duke clears then all is good IMO. If he doesn't this is looking very ugly, potentially. If Crow were to get injured they are screwed. Only having 2 RBs capable of playing is a big risk IMO.Todman claimed two days ago can play eh? So he knows where to line up and they trust him in pass-pro? And Dri Archer isn't anything other than a 3rd down specialist. The Browns drafted a FB who has looked great catching the ball and I'm sure they'll use him a lot if Duke isn't cleared in the next five days.Yeah, the Steelers have 3 guys who can play. Clev has 2...
Its not unreasonable to expect he will be cleared since his concussion happed in the third preseason game so it will over two weeks by game time.
As for wild speculation, if the Steelers lose DeAngelo that game could get ugly and the next game as well since LeVeon is out the first two games. Its sorta silly to assume Crown and Draughn will get injured.
Just rating the group of backs;
Williams
Crow
Todman
Archer
Draughn
Ranking them isn't really the crux of the point, though. Maybe you like the Clev duo better than all 3 Pitt RBs. It doesn't really matter. Sometimes it's just about having viable bodies. Pitt is in a far better position to withstand an injury because there have power in numbers, 3 guys as opposed to 2.
So, lol about it all you want but there is a reason it's rare, extremely rare, for NFL teams to carry only 2 RBs into an actual game. It's a violent game and RB is perhaps the most violent position.
is it really any different in tone, tenor than the oft-used "do your job!" by other coaches around the NFL?Way to coach`em up, Flip.Mary Kay Cabot @MaryKayCabot 5h5 hours ago
#Browns OC Flip: "I told the guys this morning that no one has to go out and play like Superman for us to win this game"
Apparently they like Turbin. He seems to fit the rb profile they have. Winn was moved to make room for Draughn.So i don't get the whole Pryor/Turbin thing, at all. Makes no sense to me and now I hear they traded Billy Winn to Indy for a conditional 2017 draft pick.
Guess they were just waiting for Ray to go on his extended vacation
Get Jets to waste time game planning for him, cut him once the Jets have completed second game prep practice. He was being used as a media decoy, but I doubt he was going to be cut until Turbin became available...at least because Winn was traded. That frees up a spot for Draughn to be promoted. Without the Winn trade to get Draughn active they probably would give Pryor the axe.beer 30 said:So i don't get the whole Pryor/Turbin thing, at all. Makes no sense to me and now I hear they traded Billy Winn to Indy for a conditional 2017 draft pick.
Guess they were just waiting for Ray to go on his extended vacation
he's plan b, Crow gets a few weeks to prove himself. If he doesn't then it's hot hand time.Just catching up. North Carolina guy that grew up with Ray.
From a fantasy angle I'm wondering if Turbin could be the 1a or 1b in the offense if his ankle heals sufficiently. Duke has generated a lot of buzz but you never know after a guy has his bell rung. Obviously, while talented, Crowell is not without some warts.
Who knows. Not to mention that Turbin they're talking 4 weeks (now) and it seems like he's had his share of injuries. It's all coach speek now. We'll know better after week one. Listen to the Pettine interview on 92.3 bull/fox show.Just catching up. North Carolina guy that grew up with Ray.
From a fantasy angle I'm wondering if Turbin could be the 1a or 1b in the offense if his ankle heals sufficiently. Duke has generated a lot of buzz but you never know after a guy has his bell rung. Obviously, while talented, Crowell is not without some warts.
can you just summarize it please?Listen to Pettine's interview today.