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17 play drive...longer than any drive in 2014...and he got concussed to dot the 'i' and cross the 't'. Does it get any more typical Browns than that?
We drank every time one of us, or someone around us, said that was so browns or something along those lines today.I think I'm recovered now.
Relax. Just imagine if McCown's #elway'esque helicopter goal line dive actually resulted in a early TD and they got to run the offense they've been practicing for months vs. crushing his melon and inserting $ into the game. (but that just wouldn't happen for us browns / CLE fans).
Seriously, what the hell is this guy thinking? He knows what this team will look like with Manziel under center. He's careful enough not to throw INTs on every pass... why can't he be careful enough not to dive headfirst into every LB he sees? Both are necessary for us to win at this point.
There is no reason to relax, and never was.thecardiackid said:
Well, on McCown's one drive it went for 17 plays and 90 (?) yards, only to be thwarted on the goal line because McCown is certifiable.
What do I expect? When you are pegged with a top tier OL you shouldn't look that bad. I don't care what is around you or what the defense is doing...open holes for the run game and protect your QB for more than the time it takes for him to drop back. I saw none of that outside of a few plays. And you certainly don't commit as many penalties as they did.
Yup.
Me? You're the one talking about the offense looking fine based on one drive that ended in a turnover.
You really want your 6'5" QB to lay down & give up? Man!!! Have you ever played the game??? I LOVE his effort!
I liked going for it, but the qb sneak with Johnny? Oof.
Kinda questioned that myself. You got a bruiser in the Crow sitting back there, why run/risk JM at about 185lbs up the middle?
If that's the way they think, then they should just be fired now. I know self preservation is a strong instinct, but the people running the Browns should be working in the Browns' best interest. Starting Manziel is much better for the organization. They are not a playoff team with McCown under center anyway.
Do you REALLY think Josh freaking Mccown gives them some sort major increased chance of winning over Johnny? Mccown is a proven long term losing QB.
Exactly. The team is going NOWHERE with Mccown. They aren't going anywhere with Johnny either, but if you give the dude experience MAYBE we can get somewhere next year.
In this specific matchup, actually, yes. I think McCown is more likely to take advantage of the weakness at corner for Oakland than Johnny. I probably don't have as strong of an opinion either way in most matchups, but this one? Yep.
The team went 7-9 last year with incompetent QB play and a locker room (an entire operation) that fell apart in the second half of the season. The team should be doing what they think they need to do to win now and worry about later when the times comes, which is later.
I was pretty shocked by the announcement as well. One thing I know is this constant change, at position or coaching promotes nothing but perpetual losing. There are guys on the team that are playing out the string, there are guys cashing a check, there are young guys that don't know any better and are actually trying to win. Mash all that together with a rookie-ish HC & staff, a disfunctional GM and a meddling owner (don't care what you say, Jimmy is calling down to the locker room more than we know) and it all points to yet another year of 6-10, a ####ty draft pick and us looking the fool for putting up with this ####.
I think this move shows Pettine is in control. Likewise with that bum Dwayne Bowe's lack of involvement and Gilbert not being active yet this year. I think Farmer's a clown, but as of right now I trust what's happening gameday is all Pettine and that we have a chance to win most weeks as long as that's the case.
7-9 is NOT a good record, and they didn't get many wins with incompetent QB play, because there was a time that Hoyer was playing reasonably well early in the season. Once he totally collapsed so did the season (admittedly I'm not a Browns' fan so my recollection may be off).
I agree. We won early on because Hoyer played competently. Not good, maybe not even average - just not terrible. Once he went terrible the whole thing fell apart. Is McCown any better or worse than Hoyer?
From what I've seen so far I think he may be just as good, or better, as early season Hoyer. The problem is clearly his recklessness though.
