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The Man With No Name
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Atlanta Falcons fined $350,000 and forfeit their 5th round draft pick in the 2016 draft
Rich McKay suspended from competition committee beginning April 1
Roddy White was behind it and would have been given an 8 game suspension without pay if he was still with the team. if he obtains employment with another team during the 2015 season, he may be required to serve some or all of his suspension.
Rich McKay suspended from competition committee beginning April 1
Roddy White was behind it and would have been given an 8 game suspension without pay if he was still with the team. if he obtains employment with another team during the 2015 season, he may be required to serve some or all of his suspension.
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The Man With No Name
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6 5th round picks are in The Hall Of Fame and The Browns drafted 3 of them
MAC_32
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Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Not irony.
Karma.
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Daryl Ruiter @RuiterWrongFAN · 2h 2 hours ago
Irony RT @treed1919 So Kyle Shanahan spills beans on Browns only to join another franchise that loses a draft pick for violating rules
Karma.
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Daryl Ruiter @RuiterWrongFAN · 2h 2 hours ago
Irony RT @treed1919 So Kyle Shanahan spills beans on Browns only to join another franchise that loses a draft pick for violating rules
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Plus he now has to work with Matt Ryan, Roddy White and Julio Jones instead of Josh McCown, Dwayne Bowe and Brian Hartline. Oh wait, never mind.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
That's a pretty interesting observation out of all of this. Why would Shanahan even be looking at his text messages during the game - in case his wife asked him to pick up milk on the way home?
Ksquared
Footballguy
I think this is why Shanny left - he was probably ordered by his boss "Farmer" to be informed of what he was supposed to call during the game. I really don't think any coach would have a phone on during the game, there is way too many quick decisions that need to be made. Unless you have a meddling owner/GM.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
He left Washington on good terms, he left Cleveland on good terms so I'm sure things will work out just as smoothly in Atlanta.
Dr. Octopus
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PlasmaDogPlasma
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I don't know what the hostility towards Shanahan is about. It's ridiculous that a GM was bugging the coaches during a game. It's good that he got it out in the open so it would get stopped.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
If the GM is sending him texts during a game, it would stand to reason that he has some reason to expect that the OC would be getting them during the game. In other words, Shannahan was likely informed that he was to be on the lookout for texts from Farmer during games.
And while I can understand fans being upset at Shannahan for blowing the whistle, it seems to me that the real anger should be directed at a GM that is so unbelievably controlling that he breaks NFL rules in order to meddle during games.
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
ghostguy123
Footballguy
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Or if you can't do anything with the phone, why even have it on you in the first place?
ghostguy123
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The Man With No Name
Footballguy
That was from the twitter of one Adam Schefter
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Just a weird coincidence. The Falcons former head of in-game promotions happened to be named Roddy White. Not the same guy as WR Roddy White.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Nobody really cares about text gate. The story had virtually no play outside of Cleveland, the NFL didn't even deem it much of a transgression. Its a boring story that no one will be talking about outside of when Farmer serves his time.
Bottom line, no draft picks lost.
Bottom line, no draft picks lost.
Captain Quinoa
Footballguy
He was texting other people to deliver messages to the sidelines.ghostguy123 said:
msommer
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Captain Quinoa
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Peak
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Hurl Bruce
Footballguy
Mortensen said the Browns have 90% moved on from Manziel.
April fools!!! The joke's on us...he's here to stay.
April fools!!! The joke's on us...he's here to stay.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Heard a rumor the textgate crap might cause us to be ineligible for compensatory picks in 2016............................ 
God I hope that isnt true
God I hope that isnt true
ghostguy123
Footballguy
http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2015/4/1/8324825/report-browns-ineligible-for-compensatory-picks-in-2016-due-to
Better be an April Fools joke
Better be an April Fools joke
Captain Quinoa
Footballguy
The link actually says it's an April Fools joke.ghostguy123 said:
Captain Quinoa
Footballguy
OL is well down their list of needs. Cannot afford to use a 1st rd pick there when they have bigger needs at NT, pass rusher, WR, and TE.
MAC_32
Footballguy
I expect a depth pick or two later, but any time in the first 75 picks or so and...
http://static.davidreport.com/2007/06/the_shining1.jpg
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
I agree. O-Line depth is needed. Maybe a swing-man C/OG. We have Bowie who is healthy and should be ready to give Schwartz some competition at RT.
I hope we don't draft a 2-down run plugger NT with the #12 pick who can't contribute much pass rush and has to be shuffled off the field in passing situations in a pass dominated league. This draft is remarkably deep at the DT/NT position and a good one can be found in the second round.
Pass rushers are always welcome and it looks like we may have our choice between a couple at the #12 pick.
I don't think we stand a chance to land one of the top-two WRs so if our top pick is a decision between a pass rusher and DeVante Parker I hope we like the pass rusher.
If you look at the 1st round TEs taken in recent drafts none of them have lived up to expectations as big play guys worthy of 1st round picks. 2008 Dustin Keller, 2009 Brandon Pettigrew, 2010 Jermaine Gresham, 2013 Tyler Eifert, 2014 Eric Ebron. Compare to Gronk taken in the 2nd round the year of Gresham or Jimmy Graham taken in the 3rd that same year or Julius Thomas taken in the 4th round in 2011. If you take a TE in the first round they had better have Gronk-like abilities but I don't see any TE like that in this year's draft so I hope we don't reach for a TE.
I hope we land a pass rusher with one of our first round picks and then can work a trade-down into the 2nd round to pick up an extra 1st round pick next year to land a QB. In the 2nd round we should be able to find a NT or WR or TE and get an extra 1st round pick next year to make a play for a QB because it doesn't look like we'll get one this year who is a legit franchise prospect without trading away the farm and I don't see that either.
MAC_32
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Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Teams do not typically advertise about wanting to move-up into the first round because those deals happen when a player that some team likes has fallen and they get antsy.
The only time the Browns traded-up was when Brady Quinn had fallen but the Saints moved up when RB Mark Ingram had fallen to the bottom of the 1st round, last year the Vikings move-up into the bottom of the 1st round for Bridgewater, they did the same thing the year before for WR Cordarrelle Pattterson.
Their has been an average of four teams with multiple picks in the first round over just the last four years and the primary way teams acquired extra picks was moving down out of the first round when they were on the clock.
MAC_32
Footballguy
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Bottom of the first round does not happen all of the time. Most of those trades were when guys fell to late/middle of the first, typically in the twenties. Its less likely and more unusual that trades were made in the 30s (only one I can think of off hand) or even very late twenties.
If a team sees a player dropping they start making calls but by the time they find a willing trade partner it is after they made a few calls. For example when started making calls for Brady Quinn we made the first call starting at the 12th pick. ESPN was reporting that we were calling everybody but didn't find a trade partner until Dallas who had the 22nd pick. The first teams we called wanted more than just our first the next year and the next few teams didn't want to trade down and we didn't want to make any trades within our division so we didn't bother to ask divisional rivals.
If we put out feelers before the draft telling GMs that we might be willing to move down into the 2nd round if some prospect that they liked started dropping but we would be seeking a trade for a 1st next year. If we had established the parameters of any deal before hand I would imagine we'd get more teams making calls. Its not as ridiculous as fans who think if we draft a guy later in the draft that we'd be fine at the QB position so long as we draft somebody this year or we should trade both our first round picks or our top pick this year and next year's first to move-up for Mariota.
I don't think we can find a viable franchise QB prospect this year so face facts and at least put a plan in place to try for next year. If not then what is your plan to find a franchise QB?
amnesiac
beer is good
the examples you provided were Ingram (pick 28), Patterson (pick 29) and Bridgewater (pick 32), which are a lot lower picks than 19, so i'm not seeing the comparison.
you are correct about Quinn though, the Browns did spend their next years first in addition to that years second to move up to 22.
regardless, my comment was just that even if the Browns want to trade down from the 19 spot, i don't see it as very likely this year.
