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Dr. Octopus
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I think they could take Darnold in that case (but would still lean towards Barkley) - it would however open up trade possibilities even further I think.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Latest Grossi tweet has a source saying the possible explanation for late rumored interest in Mayfield is that the Browns are trying to drum-up interest for top pick in order to trade-down for Allen.
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https://twitter.com/TonyGrossi/status/989527740356419591
Tony GrossiVerified account @TonyGrossi 22m22 minutes ago
One source's possible explanation for Baker Mayfield to Browns rumors: Dorsey trying hard to attract trade for No. 1. End game: Josh Allen. #draftday
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https://twitter.com/TonyGrossi/status/989527740356419591
Tony GrossiVerified account @TonyGrossi 22m22 minutes ago
One source's possible explanation for Baker Mayfield to Browns rumors: Dorsey trying hard to attract trade for No. 1. End game: Josh Allen. #draftday
ffweasel
Weasel Power
No. Please no.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Just take your guy at #1. Quit playing games and risking losing your guy..................unless that guy is Allen, then PLEASE trade down. I rather have ANY of the other top 6 QBs over Allen.
MAC_32
Footballguy
Peak
Footballguy
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Uh oh. Vegas has mayfield at -400
Darnold +195
Darnold +195
Village Idiot
Pokerguy
Mayfield - Chubb
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Bracie Smathers
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Daryl RuiterVerified account @RuiterWrongFAN 7m7 minutes ago
If my memory serves me correctly, Mitchell Trubisky’s name was all but written on a card No. 1 this time last year. #Browns picked Myles Garrett.
Soulfly3
Footballguy
It's my feeling, barring any unexpected new info or proposals surfacing & based off multiple conversations I've had on & off the record up through the crack of dawn this am, that the #Browns have settled on Okla QB Baker Mayfield for the #1 pick in the #NFL Draft tonight at 8pm.
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Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
His memory does not serve him well. I think Garrett was pretty universal to the Browns with only a smattering of Trubisky.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Soulfly3
Footballguy
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Might want to check because their was a ton of late talk about us taking Mitch.
I was always in the Garrett camp last year and I've always been in the Darnold camp this year.
This year is different. Nobody knows what John Dorsey is going to do.
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So are the Browns really going to take Mitchell Trubisky at ... www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2017/...
It went so well the last time they spent a first-round pick on a quarterback.
Browns Taking Mitchell Trubisky - News
If the Browns truly believe in Mitchell Trubisky, taking him ... sports.yahoo.com/news/browns-truly-believe...
Over the last few days before the NFL draft, there’s been a growing buzz that goes against what everyone figured was the one safe pick in everyone’s mock draft: The Cleveland Browns might pick North Carolina quarterback Mitchell Trubisky No. 1 overall.
Report: Browns still considering Mitchell Trubisky first ... profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/04/22/report-browns...
Apr 21, 2017 · Everyone thinks the Browns will take Texas A&M pass rusher Myles Garrett with the first overall pick in the draft on Thursday night, but maybe everyone is wrong. Mary Kay Cabot of cleveland.com reports that North Carolina quarterback Mitchell Trubisky is still under serious consideration by the ...
Browns strongly considering Mitch Trubisky No. 1 overall ... www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/03/browns...
Mar 02, 2017 · The Browns are strongly considering drafting hometown boy Mitch Trubisky No ... Browns taking Texas A&M pass ... quarterback for the Cleveland Browns."
Browns should take Mitchell Trubisky No. 1 overall, ESPN ... brownswire.usatoday.com/2017/04/18/browns-should...
Apr 17, 2017 · The Cleveland Browns should take UNC QB Mitchell Trubisky No. 1 overall, ESPN analyst K.C. Joyner argues.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Those are all a long, long way from "Mitchell Trubisky’s name was all but written on a card No. 1".
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
That doesn't really discount what I said. Most of them aren't even strong statements (i.e. "considering", "should", "if"...). Its was pretty well known their pick was Garrett, that's the bottom line. That guy is not remembering it correctly if his implication was Trubisky was a "done deal" at this time last year.
I also would not say for sure it's Baker this year - but it's certainly starting to look that way, and for the record I think it's a good pick for them.
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Got to say I'm surprised Browns' homers are excited by this prospect.
Mayfield is going to be a disaster. Would be the last of the Day 1 prospects I'd want my team to spend a pick on, and spending #1 overall on him is insane. I don't see how he stands in the pocket and creates with his size or arm, nor how he shows the kind of elusiveness he'd need to buy time to create when he runs damn near a 5.0 40.
Any other QB or top positional prospect would make me giddy if I'm a Browns guy. Mayfield is literally the last guy likely to be a day 1 pick I could stomach. He's not going to succeed in the NFL with his makeup.
Mayfield is going to be a disaster. Would be the last of the Day 1 prospects I'd want my team to spend a pick on, and spending #1 overall on him is insane. I don't see how he stands in the pocket and creates with his size or arm, nor how he shows the kind of elusiveness he'd need to buy time to create when he runs damn near a 5.0 40.
Any other QB or top positional prospect would make me giddy if I'm a Browns guy. Mayfield is literally the last guy likely to be a day 1 pick I could stomach. He's not going to succeed in the NFL with his makeup.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
It wasn't the "racist" tweets that sunk Allen's chances to go Cleveland. It was this one:
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Today is the Brown's Super Bowl. Good luck Cleveland!
I guess we'll see, and I still have a hard time believing a GM as good as Dorsey would make such a pick.
But a guy like Allen, despite all the warts, has not only great physical tools, but a great attitude, a rep for being coachable, and the intelligence to put it all together. He may not turn into a franchise guy with that set of tools, but his utter flameout quotient is practically nil. Worst case scenario for him is a guy with a rocket who knows the playbook inside and out and works well with the coaches, but can't rein his accuracy in. Then he's what, Derek Anderson? That'd suck, but at least it's an NFL'er.
I can't see any path for Mayfield to reach even that level. Who's the analog you're hoping he'll turn into as a 6-nothing QB from a gimmick O with left tackle speed? You're absolutely relying on him to prove to be the next Drew Brees at that point, and since there's been one of those in a century of football so far, that seems like an insane gamble. Especially when the guy with the closest mechanics to Brees in Mayfield's own draft class isn't even Mayfield.
I think Allen, Darnold, and Rosen are sure-fire competent NFL QB's. Franchise? We'll see. Jackson can make it work with less of an arm for as long as he can stay upright. He can buy time for lanes to open on the Russ Wilson plan. Durability will be his determining factor.
Mayfield? I just don't see the tools. Any of them that are necessary. I don't see the system that allows him to succeed against a league full of NFL-level defensive talent.
I'd be disconsolate right now if I were a Browns fan. :(
But a guy like Allen, despite all the warts, has not only great physical tools, but a great attitude, a rep for being coachable, and the intelligence to put it all together. He may not turn into a franchise guy with that set of tools, but his utter flameout quotient is practically nil. Worst case scenario for him is a guy with a rocket who knows the playbook inside and out and works well with the coaches, but can't rein his accuracy in. Then he's what, Derek Anderson? That'd suck, but at least it's an NFL'er.
I can't see any path for Mayfield to reach even that level. Who's the analog you're hoping he'll turn into as a 6-nothing QB from a gimmick O with left tackle speed? You're absolutely relying on him to prove to be the next Drew Brees at that point, and since there's been one of those in a century of football so far, that seems like an insane gamble. Especially when the guy with the closest mechanics to Brees in Mayfield's own draft class isn't even Mayfield.
I think Allen, Darnold, and Rosen are sure-fire competent NFL QB's. Franchise? We'll see. Jackson can make it work with less of an arm for as long as he can stay upright. He can buy time for lanes to open on the Russ Wilson plan. Durability will be his determining factor.
Mayfield? I just don't see the tools. Any of them that are necessary. I don't see the system that allows him to succeed against a league full of NFL-level defensive talent.
I'd be disconsolate right now if I were a Browns fan. :(
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tri-man 47
Footballguy
I have no attachment to the Browns (other than rooting for their near-term success), but the thought came to me that drafting Barkley at 1.1 would be a smart and interesting move. Get that stud, and let other teams sort out QBs at #2 and #3. Then at 1.4, take a QB or Nelson or Chubb. Or, yeah ...hold off on QB (then eventually take two top prospects, one serving as a bit of insurance).
I don't feel like the Browns can forgo a QB with both those picks, though. They've suffered for years to be in this great position, so it's not the time to outsmart themselves. But, still, the idea of a second solid QB prospect later on is appealing.
Thomas The Skank Engine
Footballguy
Allen is horrible. DA is his ceiling. Even if you think Mayfield's ceiling is 80% of Brees, that's better than Allen.
Bobcat10
Footballguy
Originally he was my choice. I've cooled on him since, but like you're saying I'll be fine with him. Not really excited about any of these QBs, because from my uneducated eye, nobody stands out above the rest. In a perfect world, I think Rosen is actually the guy, but I've always been worried about his concussions and other injuries. I'm just in trust the process mode with the new regime.
I do think Barkley will be a mistake at 1 or 4. And that doesn't mean he won't be an all pro RB.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
Bobcat10
Footballguy
jurrassic
Footballguy
I have no horse in this race, but picking Mayfield is intriguing. Definitely has the most moxie, though that rubs some people the wrong way. He strikes me as a key culture change guy. Confident, charismatic leader the team and city can rally around. Would like this pick more than Allen or Rosen.
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tri-man 47
Footballguy
Like in our fantasy drafts, it's almost a curse to have the first pick ...so much pressure to get it right.
Dr. Octopus
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Dr. Octopus
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NYRAGE
Footballguy
Dorsey has been reading your posts. Congrats if true. I'm still not believing anything until I hear the Commissioner calling it.
beer 30
Footballguy
Browns GM decided on No. 1 pick 6 weeks ago, told HC Hue Jackson 2 days ago 
And that's still more trust than I would have in him. For the record, I don't want Mayfield or Allen on this team. If one of them is the pick, it's going to be tough for me to support it as I've been a Rosen/Darnold guy. Hope I'm totally wrong about Mayfield but if he is the guy, it's going to take some convincing for me to come around.
And that's still more trust than I would have in him. For the record, I don't want Mayfield or Allen on this team. If one of them is the pick, it's going to be tough for me to support it as I've been a Rosen/Darnold guy. Hope I'm totally wrong about Mayfield but if he is the guy, it's going to take some convincing for me to come around.
