GregR said:
Doubtful the DAC strips Bush of his Heisman -- some of the members have said as much. USC could get stripped of its BCS championship from '04, but
the AP has already stated they won't strip them of their 2004 championship:
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_co...acate-wins.html
So much for the AP being consistent after the Brian Cushing revote. Or maybe we should chalk it up to NFL defensive ROY being
SO much more important than a college football national championship.
Or chalk it up to the NFL being completely different than the NCAA. The NFL thrives because there's always a clear answer. New England wasn't the best team in 2001, but dammit, they're the champions and there's nothing anyone can do about it. Have you ever seen two NFL teams list different win/loss totals against each other in their official media guides? Of course not- every game has a winner and a loser. On the other hand, Florida and Georgia are still arguing about the outcome of a game that happened more than 100 years ago. How many national championships a school has depends very much on who you ask. In the end, college football survives and even thrives on controversy. One of the best parts is that the book is never closed on a season. So much is open to debate that people will still be discussing something that was old news years ago. Case in point: USC's National Championship.
Team ROFLCOPTERS said:
In regards to Bush and family taking monies, I just think saying USC itself is cheating is a bit harsh. Cheating is creating an on field advantage or manipulating the recruiting rules. If anything USC is responsible for is allowing it to go on .... allegedly. The thing is, there isn't a shred of proof of USC knowing anything and despite knowing what we know now, there still is no proof that Bush accepted kick backs. He still denies it despite settling.
I personally am not naive and I truely believe Carroll and company had a great deal of knowlege, but no team turns their player in. None. I just don't think the amount of punishment handed out fits. It's unprecedented and it's strictly based off a great deal of suspicion.
I appreciate the dialogue guys. Very interesting topic.
Cheating is creating an on-field advantage by some method that is against the rules. USC put the Heisman Trophy winner on the field (creating an on-field advantage) despite the fact that he was not an amateur (which is against the rules). I don't see how that doesn't qualify as "cheating".Now, I suppose that you could use the ignorance defense... but ignorance is no defense in this case. Schools have a compliance office whose sole job is to make sure that they are compliant- if you're ignorant of a situation, then you're not doing your job. If it's true that Reggie Bush was interning for an NFL agent, then there's no way in hell that USC's compliance office shouldn't have been on super-triple-extra-heightened alert to the risk. Either they were and they let him play anyway... or they weren't, and they were guilty of gross negligence. Imagine if an NFL owner spent $30 million over the cap and when confronted by the NFL simply said "oh, I'm sorry, my cap department just wasn't doing their job and so I had no idea that I was $30 million over the cap". You think that excuse would fly with Roger Goodell? And if not, why should "Oh, I'm sorry, my compliance department just wasn't doing their job and so I had no idea that our star football player who was interning for an NFL agent accepted over $100,000 in benefits from that agent"?