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Guessing that won't happen until the Kingdom joins up with Alexandria and The Hilltop.... Maybe by the end of the season.. Might take this season to build up "The war" that is bound to be coming..
####ified Rick for an entire season will make for pretty boring television so I hope they don't go that route. Half a season would make more sense. Certainly makes sense that Rick and Ezekiel meet at some point to form an alliance against Negan. So from a plotting standpoint having them meet at some point in the first half of the season and then have a war vs. Negan be the focal point of the second half would seem to make sense. I don't see Negan being killed off, though. I don't know what happens in the comics or if he's still alive or any of that but he seems pretty important so my guess is he's gonna hang around for awhile.Guessing that won't happen until the Kingdom joins up with Alexandria and The Hilltop.... Maybe by the end of the season.. Might take this season to build up "The war" that is bound to be coming..
Maybe the build happens to the Mid-season break, with the first of many encounters happening at the break, and the 2nd half of the season is the battle.
I don't think Rick's experience ####ified him, rather knocked some sense into him that you don't go into battle with an unknown enemy half-cocked. He'll lick his wounded ego but I expect the rest of the season will be him acting like real leader and building an army.packersfan said:
snogger said:Guessing that won't happen until the Kingdom joins up with Alexandria and The Hilltop.... Maybe by the end of the season.. Might take this season to build up "The war" that is bound to be coming..
Maybe the build happens to the Mid-season break, with the first of many encounters happening at the break, and the 2nd half of the season is the battle.
Not that I care, but, doesn't packers like to stay away from spoilers. The war isn't exactly common knowledge is it?
What else would happen? Rick's group isn't going to settle into life as peasants farming for Negan.
But since we're talking about it already how do you think it's going to stand up against The Battle of Winterfell? Kind of puts the Emmy talk a few pages back into perspective.
What else would happen? Rick's group isn't going to settle into life as peasants farming for Negan.
But since we're talking about it already how do you think it's going to stand up against The Battle of Winterfell? Kind of puts the Emmy talk a few pages back into perspective.
Oh, and they have Daryl.
It's probably semantics. I'm not sure, though, he feels right now that he got any sense knocked into him. I think Negan has totally defeated him. I think he is completely beaten right now. Negan has taken everything from him and mostly his dignity. No one has done that to him before. Something will need to happen for BadAssRickGrimes to return. I'm interested to see what event(s) will spark that return. But for the moment I think he's at his completely lowest point and I'm guessing he'll remain there for awhile but as I said I hope this doesn't last too long. Half a season or so is fine but let's not drag it out for too long. Rick's too important to the show for him to remain a despondent character.
"The War", in quotes and everything, with the Kingdom joining forces with Alexandria and Hilltop. Yeah, I guess that's just a given at this point.
I stopped reading the comics at about the Governor part so have no idea what the future holds for the show....
But it seems more then obvious that at some point there will be a War between Rick and whoever he can gather vs. Negan... or is tony thinking the rest of the series is Negan and Rick living in "peace" ??
Maybe it isn't as obvious to others, and if not then sorry if my guess is a "spoiler" ... . but logically it makes sense."The War", in quotes and everything, with the Kingdom joining forces with Alexandria and Hilltop. Yeah, I guess that's just a given at this point.
But, if no one else cares I sure don't, there are more important things to talk about like how the hell the Kingdom has managed to keep pomegranate trees alive through DC's freezing winders.
Gregory reluctantly agreed to trade half of his food to Rick's group in a now failed attempt to take out the Saviors. You so sure Gregory will want to risk all of Hilltop and go all in with them, a second time?Maybe it isn't as obvious to others, and if not then sorry if my guess is a "spoiler" ... . but logically it makes sense.
First you have Alexandria, where Rick just watched two of his own get brutally murdered.... Sooner or later they will want their revenge.
Next you have The Hilltop, who have already tried to hire Rick and his group to take out Negan.
Lastly, you have The kingdom feeding the Dead to the Pigs as a FU to the Saviors and Negan..
all 3 alone know they have no chance against Negan and his army.. But together............
So yea, in my mind it seems pretty obvious where this is heading..
pretty obvious. especially with all the talk in the kingdom about how people would want to go to war if word got out.Maybe it isn't as obvious to others, and if not then sorry if my guess is a "spoiler" ... . but logically it makes sense.
First you have Alexandria, where Rick just watched two of his own get brutally murdered.... Sooner or later they will want their revenge.
Next you have The Hilltop, who have already tried to hire Rick and his group to take out Negan.
Lastly, you have The kingdom feeding the Dead to the Pigs as a FU to the Saviors and Negan..
all 3 alone know they have no chance against Negan and his army.. But together............
So yea, in my mind it seems pretty obvious where this is heading..
Don't forget Negan wants Gregory dead. When he finds out Rick put a stop to that plan he'll probably try and get it done a second time. Maybe he'll send Rick to do it.
I haven't read past this time in the comics either (#100 I think) so I'm not spoiling anything. There wouldn't be a new group introduced if the plan wasn't to go after Negan. Besides, they have to anyway to get Daryl.
I stopped reading the comics at about the Governor part so have no idea what the future holds for the show....
But it seems more then obvious that at some point there will be a War between Rick and whoever he can gather vs. Negan... or is tony thinking the rest of the series is Negan and Rick living in "peace" ??
My money would be on Daryl escaping on his own before Rick gets the balls to defy Negan again
I'm surprised there were some people (not here; on the Interwebs) questioning whether the Zeke reveal came too soon. That was easily the best scene in the episode. You don't want this character slipping into a parody and that scene humanized him and showed why he became the leader he's become. Plus it established a connection between him and Carol. It was a great moment and the episode would've been lost without it. I thought the way Payton transformed his entire persona from Ezekiel to Zeke was really impressive. That was a great piece of acting on his part. As impressive as Jeffrey Dean Morgan's arrival to the show has been I was just as impressed with with Payton's entrance. I'm looking forward to both characters and can't wait for Negan and Ezekiel to interact with one another.
I was so damn close to turning it off and deleting it from my DVR when Carol was wheeled in to meet Ezekiel, but it turned out alright with him just BS'ing it all.
Man, you really like every single thing you see. Amazing.To be honest.. When Carol met "The King", her reaction was the same as mine.. Wow, they are REALLY going over the top on this one..
But during the Pig hunt, and other interactions with Morgan he seemed a little less "Over the top" .. and then the Conversation with Carol sold me on the character.
Can't wait until Rick meets him and the Tiger.
If you say so then it must be so...
Every week I check this thread and find a little recap post with you lauding the episode.If you say do then it must be so...
Guess you missed my many rants last season. . aka Glenn dumpster dive, the Morgan sideshow episode, etc. . Then again those wouldn't fit your infatuation with me liking this show so I'm sure you bypassed them. . but pleade.. keep on keeping on
The dude talks like a medieval king and has a tiger, they couldn't keep that gag going for multiple episodes.
Happy to know I am on someone's watch list.. must be doing something right. .Every week I check this thread and find a little recap post with you lauding the episode.
Pretty sure everyone, including those of us who really love the show, really disliked the fake Glenn death. Most of us made that real clear.If you say so then it must be so...
Guess you missed my many rants last season. . aka Glenn dumpster dive, the Morgan sideshow episode, etc. . Then again those wouldn't fit your infatuation with me liking this show so I'm sure you bypassed them. . but please.. keep on keeping on
I'm not checking the thread to find your fawning, hth. Here for everything/anything else.Happy to know I am on someone's watch list.. must be doing something right. .
They're going to have that tiger fight (and probably get killed) and the cgi is going to be brutal isn't it?
How much do you want to bet there will be more faux outrage over killing the tiger than Glenn?
This was my take. Very well done with King Ezekial. First impression was that the dude was certifiable, but not evil. Was fun the way they opened him up and it turned out he was bordering on genius and very real. Terrific addition to the cast.
JDM did an interview on the Rich Eisen show last week after the S7 premiere, and basically said that there will be no Negan flashback/origin type story this season. He didn't rule it out for the future though.
