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Joe Schad reporting on ESPNews that surgery has not been ruled out as an option for Sam Bradford....and that the docs still don't know the severity/grade of the sprain. It may be a day or two before they do.

Of course nothing has been ruled out, no one really knows at this point how bad the "sprain" is until further testing is done.
Joey falls off his bike and bumps his head

ER Doctor: It doesn't seem serious but we are going to hold him over night as a precaution.

Texas fan standing in the waiting room: I wouldn't rule out brain surgery.

Sooner in waiting room: Yours or his?

Wow, Doc.

I'm just passing on what I saw when Joe Schad was interviewed on ESPN. I'm not the one who made that judgement. The doctors did. Overreact much?

I hope Sam is back asap and specifically in time for Dallas. You're oversimplifying this, imho. The 2-4 weeks thrown out there initially is what everyone went with right off the bat. That's best case scenario. I hope that's the case, 'cause Sam seems like a good kid, but these things can take a lot longer, and they can require surgery, which has not been ruled out yet.

That's all I was pointing out.

Why do you have to get your panties all wadded and make this something about me being a Texas fan? I'll bet any decent Sooner board has a post (by a Sooner fan) similar to mine regarding the surgery right now.

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If we ever meet, I'm going to rape you.

So the boys and I sat through the downpour in Norman today to watch Perine set the record. It was a wonderful experience. I seriously think he could have gotten another 25 - 50 yards if Stoops left

They better win. I'm going down there for the first time since 1994. Boomer!

Joe Schad reporting on ESPNews that surgery has not been ruled out as an option for Sam Bradford....and that the docs still don't know the severity/grade of the sprain. It may be a day or two before they do.

Of course nothing has been ruled out, no one really knows at this point how bad the "sprain" is until further testing is done.
Joey falls off his bike and bumps his head

ER Doctor: It doesn't seem serious but we are going to hold him over night as a precaution.

Texas fan standing in the waiting room: I wouldn't rule out brain surgery.

Sooner in waiting room: Yours or his?

Wow, Doc.

I'm just passing on what I saw when Joe Schad was interviewed on ESPN. I'm not the one who made that judgement. The doctors did. Overreact much?

I hope Sam is back asap and specifically in time for Dallas. You're oversimplifying this, imho. The 2-4 weeks thrown out there initially is what everyone went with right off the bat. That's best case scenario. I hope that's the case, 'cause Sam seems like a good kid, but these things can take a lot longer, and they can require surgery, which has not been ruled out yet.

That's all I was pointing out.

Why do you have to get your panties all wadded and make this something about me being a Texas fan? I'll bet any decent Sooner board has a post (by a Sooner fan) similar to mine regarding the surgery right now.

Holy crap. Sense of ####### humor down?

I thought it was good rivalry humor but it was lost on you. Remind me to never joke with longhorns fans besides Berserker and Bentley. :lmao:

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Joe Schad reporting on ESPNews that surgery has not been ruled out as an option for Sam Bradford....and that the docs still don't know the severity/grade of the sprain. It may be a day or two before they do.

Of course nothing has been ruled out, no one really knows at this point how bad the "sprain" is until further testing is done.
Joey falls off his bike and bumps his head

ER Doctor: It doesn't seem serious but we are going to hold him over night as a precaution.

Texas fan standing in the waiting room: I wouldn't rule out brain surgery.

Sooner in waiting room: Yours or his?

Wow, Doc.

I'm just passing on what I saw when Joe Schad was interviewed on ESPN. I'm not the one who made that judgement. The doctors did. Overreact much?

I hope Sam is back asap and specifically in time for Dallas. You're oversimplifying this, imho. The 2-4 weeks thrown out there initially is what everyone went with right off the bat. That's best case scenario. I hope that's the case, 'cause Sam seems like a good kid, but these things can take a lot longer, and they can require surgery, which has not been ruled out yet.

That's all I was pointing out.

Why do you have to get your panties all wadded and make this something about me being a Texas fan? I'll bet any decent Sooner board has a post (by a Sooner fan) similar to mine regarding the surgery right now.

Holy crap. Sense of ####### humor down?

I thought it was good rivalry humor but it was lost on you. Remind me to never joke with longhorns fans besides Berserker and Bentley. :bye:

Uh huh.
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Of course nothing has been ruled out, no one really knows at this point how bad the "sprain" is until further testing is done.

Joey falls off his bike and bumps his head

ER Doctor: It doesn't seem serious but we are going to hold him over night as a precaution.

Texas fan standing in the waiting room: I wouldn't rule out brain surgery.

Sooner in waiting room: Yours or his?

Wow, Doc.

I'm just passing on what I saw when Joe Schad was interviewed on ESPN. I'm not the one who made that judgement. The doctors did. Overreact much?

I hope Sam is back asap and specifically in time for Dallas. You're oversimplifying this, imho. The 2-4 weeks thrown out there initially is what everyone went with right off the bat. That's best case scenario. I hope that's the case, 'cause Sam seems like a good kid, but these things can take a lot longer, and they can require surgery, which has not been ruled out yet.

That's all I was pointing out.

Why do you have to get your panties all wadded and make this something about me being a Texas fan? I'll bet any decent Sooner board has a post (by a Sooner fan) similar to mine regarding the surgery right now.

Holy crap. Sense of ####### humor down?

I thought it was good rivalry humor but it was lost on you. Remind me to never joke with longhorns fans besides Berserker and Bentley. :bye:

Uh huh.
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I feel really bad for Gresham, he shouldn't have come back. Losing him is arguably worse than losing Bradford. At this point a 3 loss season would have to be considered a success.

:pickle:That dude is nothing less than a man amongst boys and would certainly have been the first TE taken even if he had come out last year.
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Latest is that Bradford will not need surgery and can come back in 2 to 4 weeks. But, this is all up to interpretation.

Here's a link to a really good post on this, with a diagram of the injury and comparisons to other qbs who have suffered the same injury, at crimsomandcreammachine.com... http://www.crimsonandcreammachine.com/2009...pectives-on-the .

FWIW, Coach Stoops has said it's a grade 2 or 3 sprain in the Big 12 Coaches Conference Call the other day, and Bradford has said he's been told the sprain is grade 3 but that he is going to try to get through it with only rehab in 2-4 weeks.

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I feel really bad for Gresham, he shouldn't have come back. Losing him is arguably worse than losing Bradford. At this point a 3 loss season would have to be considered a success.

Bradford I understand coming back, Gresham I really didn't.
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If I am Bradford I would not run out of an empty backfield the rest of the season. The OL is awful at best. Guy at work says that Bradford and Gresham will come back and play again next year at OU. Who really knows, but that would be crazy.

They both certainly could.

The only way I see Gresham coming back is if his rehab doesn't get him 100% in time for the combine.

Who knows what Bradford's gonna do, but I'd be surprised.

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OU looked okay today, and Landry is the real deal. I am a little worried about Miami with their team speed and home field advantage. OU is on a bye week and then we will see if OU is for real this year.

I think they were a little better than "ok." Tulsa has back to back 10+ win seasons and they probably will get 9 or 10 wins this year also. This wasn't Louisiana Monroe or Wyoming although I'm not saying they are Florida either. Shutout, Jones throws 6 TDs, and the defense made the key plays to keep Tulsa between the 30s. They can beat Miami in two weeks without Bradford but it won't be easy. The line is gelling as expected, the defense is much better than a year ago, and Murray/Brown/Broyles is a lot of offensive firepower.
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http://www.wapt.com/sports/21120738/detail.html

Reportedly, Sam Bradford flew to Birmingham today to see top sports surgeon Dr. James Andrews tomorrow.

This probably ends with the doc saying he's good to go or he's done for the year, imho. Feel awful for him. He's a great player and seems like a great kid.

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http://www.wapt.com/sports/21120738/detail.html

Reportedly, Sam Bradford flew to Birmingham today to see top sports surgeon Dr. James Andrews tomorrow.

This probably ends with the doc saying he's good to go or he's done for the year, imho. Feel awful for him. He's a great player and seems like a great kid.

I don't think he'll be out for the year.
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http://www.wapt.com/sports/21120738/detail.html

Reportedly, Sam Bradford flew to Birmingham today to see top sports surgeon Dr. James Andrews tomorrow.

This probably ends with the doc saying he's good to go or he's done for the year, imho. Feel awful for him. He's a great player and seems like a great kid.

:lmao::thumbup::lmao: Here we go again.

Here is ESPN's take:

Oklahoma quarterback Sam Bradford was scheduled to visit renowned orthopedic surgeon James Andrews in Alabama this weekend but has not had a specific setback in his recovery from a sprained throwing shoulder, a person familiar with the situation said Saturday morning.

Instead, Bradford was traveling during Oklahoma's off week to seek clearance in an attempt to play as early as next Saturday against Miami, the source said.

The examination is part of standard procedure for an insurance policy Bradford took before the season, protecting him financially against a career-ending injury.

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Here we go again?

Wow, Doc, you're awfully sensitive about Sam.

Did you miss the first part of the text you bolded, where I said the visit "probably ends with the doc saying he's good to go OR..."?

I and some other OU fans I've talked to don't see Sam going all the way to B-ham just to confirm that he needs more rehab or whatever. It's almost certainly to confirm something...that he's in or out. How is my post in any way inconsistent with ESPN's "insurance take"? That's also on Sporting News now, but it wasn't out anywhere when I posted. If anything, it confirms my post. Thanks.

You seem to think I'm rooting against Bradford's return. I'm not. :goodposting:

I and every Texas fan I know wants him back, esp for Dallas.

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Here we go again?

Wow, Doc, you're awfully sensitive about Sam.

Did you miss the first part of the text you bolded, where I said the visit "probably ends with the doc saying he's good to go OR..."?

I and some other OU fans I've talked to don't see Sam going all the way to B-ham just to confirm that he needs more rehab or whatever. It's almost certainly to confirm something...that he's in or out. How is my post in any way inconsistent with ESPN's "insurance take"? That's also on Sporting News now, but it wasn't out anywhere when I posted. If anything, it confirms my post. Thanks.

You seem to think I'm rooting against Bradford's return. I'm not. :shrug:

I and every Texas fan I know wants him back, esp for Dallas.

Lineup decisions and conjecture, please go to the Assistant Coach forum

You and the OU fans you referenced should have read the article where it says he's going to Birmingham as part of standard procedure for insurance purposes. He's not going to confirm he needs more rehab and this is not even close to saying it might end his season which is part your :2cents: Whether you are rooting for or against his return really makes no difference whatsoever, you're acting like you know something I'm sure you don't.

It would be like me saying something like Colt McCoy is having a homosexual relationship with a bassmaster based on this article.

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Doc...reading comprehension down? Nevermind. I can see the answer to that for myself.

You and the OU fans you referenced should have read the article where it says he's going to Birmingham as part of standard procedure for insurance purposes.

As I stated before, that article wasn't out when I posted, but it only supports my post.

He's not going to confirm he needs more rehab

Yep. That's what I said in my last post. That was my point. Is there an echo in here?

this is not even close to saying it might end his season which is part your .02........you're acting like you know something I'm sure you don't.

I said it was probably either/or, meaning that imho there was little chance of anything in between...like the doctor telling him to continue rehab, which you yourself agreed was unlikely. Obviously, you don't travel from Okie to Bama for that. I never said I knew anything. Quote where I did, please. What's so controversial here?

You're coming in here with 20/20 hindsight and the benefit of an article that was printed after I posted my post and bit**ing just to bit**. Seriously, can't you find something else to cry about?

It would be like me saying something like Colt McCoy is having a homosexual relationship with a bassmaster based on this article

OK. :rolleyes: Edited by the hairy scotsman
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Doc...reading comprehension down? Nevermind. I can see the answer to that for myself.

You and the OU fans you referenced should have read the article where it says he's going to Birmingham as part of standard procedure for insurance purposes.

As I stated before, that article wasn't out when I posted, but it only supports my post.

He's not going to confirm he needs more rehab

Yep. That's what I said in my last post. Is there an echo in here?

this is not even close to saying it might end his season which is part your .02........you're acting like you know something I'm sure you don't.

I said it was probably either/or. I never said I knew anything. Quote where I did, please. You're coming in here with 20/20 hindsight and the benefit of an article that was printed after I posted my post and bit**ing just to bit**. Seriously, can't you find something else to cry about?

It would be like me saying something like Colt McCoy is having a homosexual relationship with a bassmaster based on this article

OK. :rolleyes:
Can't wait to hear what breaking news you might have on the stock market, cancer, and the future BB-Q sauces. You manage facts like Mike Holmgren manages 3rd and 8s.
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I feel really bad for Gresham, he shouldn't have come back. Losing him is arguably worse than losing Bradford. At this point a 3 loss season would have to be considered a success.

:ptts:That dude is nothing less than a man amongst boys and would certainly have been the first TE taken even if he had come out last year.
he'll still go firstbest TE prospect in some timeSooners have 3 top 10 picks in McCoy, Bradford and Gresham. Edited by Bri
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I would expect Bradford to be a last minute decision this week. Definitely play the week after. He's already started throwing.

I don't think their O-line woes have been cured at all by playing bad opponents. Landry Jones has had it easy. I'd like to see him against the U.

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Here we go again?

Wow, Doc, you're awfully sensitive about Sam.

Did you miss the first part of the text you bolded, where I said the visit "probably ends with the doc saying he's good to go OR..."?

I and some other OU fans I've talked to don't see Sam going all the way to B-ham just to confirm that he needs more rehab or whatever. It's almost certainly to confirm something...that he's in or out. How is my post in any way inconsistent with ESPN's "insurance take"? That's also on Sporting News now, but it wasn't out anywhere when I posted. If anything, it confirms my post. Thanks.

You seem to think I'm rooting against Bradford's return. I'm not. :lmao:

I and every Texas fan I know wants him back, esp for Dallas.

Not me, dude. I'm all for any advantage that Texas can gain. I hope that Sam and his father put his NFL future ahead of Sooner football.
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I would expect Bradford to be a last minute decision this week. Definitely play the week after. He's already started throwing.I don't think their O-line woes have been cured at all by playing bad opponents. Landry Jones has had it easy. I'd like to see him against the U.

Well, you'll get to find out a lot about their line when they play Miami and Texas. Of course, Texas will find out a lot about theirs as well when they play OU.
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No official word (not sure if they can even say), but you can kinda connect the dots here. It looks like Sam Bradford got the good news he was looking for from the specialist he went to see in Birminghman.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blo...m-bradford.html

At any rate, sooner fans are saying he's cleared to practice fully, but no decision has been made on whether he'll play against the U, which is consistent with the article.

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OU looked okay today, and Landry is the real deal. I am a little worried about Miami with their team speed and home field advantage. OU is on a bye week and then we will see if OU is for real this year.

Tulsa has back to back 10+ win seasons and they probably will get 9 or 10 wins this year also.
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OU looked okay today, and Landry is the real deal. I am a little worried about Miami with their team speed and home field advantage. OU is on a bye week and then we will see if OU is for real this year.

Tulsa has back to back 10+ win seasons and they probably will get 9 or 10 wins this year also.
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:mellow: '07 10-4'08 11-3'09 3-1In '07 TU averaged 39 ppg, in '08 TU averaged 43 ppg. In its 3 wins this year, TU has averaged 45 ppg. OU shut them out.OU's defense is for real and will keep them in every game this year.
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Jones will be OU's starting quarterback Saturday

By JOHN E. HOOVER World Sports Writer

Published: 10/1/2009 2:06 PM

Last Modified: 10/1/2009 3:15 PM

Sam Bradford hit the scene two years ago against Miami. Apparently, Bradford won't get another shot at the Hurricanes.

Oklahoma coach Bob Stoops said on Thursday that Landry Jones will start at quarterback when the No. 8-ranked Sooners play Saturday at No. 17 Miami.

"Sam has made daily progress, but we don't feel like he's quite where he needs to be yet," Stoops said in a press release. "Our team has a lot of confidence in Landry's ability and we're looking forward to going into the game with him at quarterback. Our approach will be the same that it has been in the last two games."

On Tuesday, Stoops said he wouldn't rule out the possibility of using two quarterbacks against Miami. But in an e-mail this afternoon, OU Senior Associate Athletics Director for Communications Kenny Mossman wrote that it's "unlikely" Bradford will be in uniform for the game.

Bradford has been out of action since he injured his throwing shoulder in the season-opener against BYU on Sept. 5. Classified as a Grade 2 or 3 separation, Bradford's prognosis was to miss 2-4 weeks. The 2008 Heisman Trophy winner resumed light throwing last week and only this week returned to practice. During drills this week, he split first-team reps with Jones as the Sooner coaches tried to evaluate Bradford's ability to operate the game plan.

"No one's gonna play if they're not healthy and ready to go," offensive coordinator Kevin Wilson said on Tuesday. ". . . A guy coming off an injury, if there are throws he can't make, you either take those throws out or you say, 'Look, if you can't make the throws, the guy doesn't play.'"

In a Wednesday report by CBS Sportsline columnist Dennis Dodd, Bradford's father, Kent Bradford, said he didn't see the harm in his son waiting another two weeks before returning to the starting lineup. That would put Bradford in the center of the storm for the Oct. 17 showdown with No. 2-ranked Texas.

The Sooners host Baylor next week in their Big 12 Conference opener.

Offensive coordinator Kevin Wilson said this week that Bradford not playing is "eating and gnawing at his gut," and he surely wanted to play in the Sooners' first non-conference road game against a ranked opponent since 2006.

His breakout game came against the 'Canes in 2007. As a redshirt freshman going up against a rebuilding Miami team in coach Randy Shannon's first season, Bradford's second start resulted in a 51-13 victory over the Hurricanes. He completed 19-of-25 passes for 205 yards and tied a school record with five touchdown throws. During that game, he broke Jason White's school mark for consecutive completions with 22 (including 18 in a row the week before against North Texas).

With Jones, the Sooners don't have to alter their offense. Jones replaced Bradford in the second half against BYU and looked mostly strong, though his teammates continued to founder. Jones started in Bradford's place in games against Idaho State and Tulsa and won the hearts of Sooner fans by completing 62.3 percent of his passes, averaging 311 yards per game and throwing nine touchdowns — including six against TU, which broke Bradford's previous school record of five.

Jones has operated the offense well and spread the ball to get more players involved, but interceptions — he's thrown three, all on bad throws — might be a concern against a fast and talented Miami team.

"I think the time Landry's gotten under his belt has been good," Wilson said. "We're sitting in a pretty good situation because, realistically, you see two guys that give you a chance. One guy's a great player, and one guy's shown, short-term, that he can play great football and winning football. It'd be nice to continue to see him in time in bigger games and against greater opponents."

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Broyles out with a shoulder injury in a sling on the sidelines. That is a huge loss.

Not picking up your assignment as a TE and letting the QB get sacked at your own 10 is a good way to be on the bench for a long time.

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