Antonio Brown - Official Thread

[JoeSteeler 3,407]

I wouldn’t be surprised at all at something like 4-60-1

Don’t have him in a any leagues 

[Teezee 47]

7 minutes ago, JoeSteeler said:

I wouldn’t be surprised at all at something like 4-60-1

Don’t have him in a any leagues 

In the first quarter..

[Helaire-ious 79]

3 hours ago, JoeSteeler said:

I wouldn’t be surprised at all at something like 4-60-1

Don’t have him in a any leagues 

Most of us would not, but that id not world beeater

[kyoun1e 896]

Any rumblings pre game on how much he's' going to play?

Debating AB or Evans. Have a lead. Looking for safe points.

[JoeSteeler 3,407]

7 minutes ago, kyoun1e said:

Any rumblings pre game on how much he's' going to play?

Debating AB or Evans. Have a lead. Looking for safe points.

Really think they will all but force it to Tom’s roommate 

[Craig_MiamiFL 2,478]

I don't know how anyone would have confidence in starting Evans.....just with Godwin active. Let alone AB now active to take away targets (granted he probably snags snaps from Miller/etc......AB at 50% is better than that group).

I've seen it posted elsewhere, but in the 4 games Godwin's been in the lineup, Evans' #s:

1-2-1 (4 targets)

2-2-2 (4 targets)

1-10-0 (2 targets)

2-37-0 (2 targets)

That's pretty nice sample size there. Obviously the TD upside is present, but man 51 receiving yards in 4 games with all of 12 targets is rough.

Edited November 9, 2020 by Craig_MiamiFL

[heckmanm 4,351]

Thanks to my opponent blowing up, I could use, oh, about 240/5 from AB tonight.

In case anyone's wondering

[JoeSteeler 3,407]

Will he take targets from Gronk?

[kyoun1e 896]

9 minutes ago, Craig_MiamiFL said:

I don't know how anyone would have confidence in starting Evans.....just with Godwin active. Let alone AB now active to take away targets (granted he probably snags snaps from Miller/etc......AB at 50% is better than that group).

I've seen it posted elsewhere, but in the 4 games Godwin's been in the lineup, Evans' #s:

1-2-1 (4 targets)

2-2-2 (4 targets)

1-10-0 (2 targets)

2-37-0 (2 targets)

That's pretty nice sample size there. Obviously the TD upside is present, but man 51 receiving yards in 4 games with all of 12 targets is rough.

Yeah the data is undeniable.

Could see Evans playing a full compliment of snaps and getting shutout. 

Leaning AB over Evans unless there was some sideline reporting indicating he's playing very little.

[kutta 5,497]

I’m playing Godwin over him. I’m struggling with it with Godwin’s injury, but going with it for this week.

[Truebluey 456]

Has AB played a snap yet? 

[floods 6]

Just now, Truebluey said:

Has AB played a snap yet? 

He has, and was targeted deep and under thrown by Brady. The issue is that TB has gone three and out every possession (or turned the ball over).

[GroveDiesel 9,083]

2 minutes ago, floods said:

He has, and was targeted deep and under thrown by Brady. The issue is that TB has gone three and out every possession (or turned the ball over).

Yup. If Brady had been able to throw the ball far enough to hit Brown in stride, that would have been a TD to Brown.

[floods 6]

Just now, GroveDiesel said:

Yup. If Brady had been able to throw the ball far enough to hit Brown in stride, that would have been a TD to Brown.

Brown didn't look like he's aged a day.

[Truebluey 456]

My God! A catch. 

[fred_1_15301 5,447]

9 minutes ago, floods said:

Brown didn't look like he's aged a day.

The guy is a physical specimen and a workout monster so this doesn't surprise me at all.  It's everything between the ears that concerns me (and that's putting it lightly).

[matttyl 2,689]

21 minutes ago, Truebluey said:

Has AB played a snap yet? 

He didn't "start", but was in on the second offensive play for the Bucs. 

[Faust 5,016]

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Antonio Brown caught 3-of-5 targets for 31 yards in Week 9 against the Saints.

Brown played 39-of-50 snaps (78 percent) in his Bucs debut. Even in his first game on a loaded depth chart, Tom Brady made a point to get him involved. Brown's role should continue to grow as he gets acclimated from missing the last eight weeks. He's an upside WR4 for Week 10 against the Panthers.

Nov 8, 2020, 11:44 PM ET

 

 

[Faust 5,016]

After terrible offensive showing, Buccaneers will need whatever they can get from Antonio Brown  

[The Frankman 3,302]

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Antonio Brown caught 7-of-8 targets for 69 yards in Week 10 against the Panthers.

All four of the Bucs' pass catchers had big days, but this was a step in the right direction for Brown in terms of establishing a role in the team's passing game. Brown's day could have been even better, as Tom Brady missed him on a deep crossing route, throwing it five yards too deep over the middle of the field instead of leading Brown to the right side. Consider AB a FLEX option in Week 11 against the Rams.

- Rotoworld

 

Edited November 15, 2020 by The Frankman

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Antonio Brown was accused last month by the community in which he lives of destroying a security camera and throwing a bicycle at a security guard on Oct. 15, the Miami Herald reported Monday, citing a police report.

The Hollywood (Florida) Police decided they had probable cause to charge Brown with criminal mischief, a misdemeanor, but the president of the Hollywood Oaks homeowners association declined to press charges, the Herald reported. According to the report, the president, Sylvia Berman, told police she feared Brown "may retaliate against her employees."

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Bucs issue statement on AB incident

“We are aware of the reported incident involving Antonio Brown prior to his signing,” the Buccaneers said in a statement issued to PFT. “When Antonio joined us, we were clear about what we expected and required of him. Thus far, he has met all the expectations we have in place.”

 

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[menobrown 3,705]

Bucs statement saying "prior to his signing" was good to hear if you are invested in AB, this seems minor, no charges file and he took care of the situation.

But I'd still be a little worried, I know I am, because the NFL already saying they did not know about this prior to reinstating him and it's also a possible parole violation.

[GroveDiesel 9,083]

33 minutes ago, menobrown said:

Bucs statement saying "prior to his signing" was good to hear if you are invested in AB, this seems minor, no charges file and he took care of the situation.

But I'd still be a little worried, I know I am, because the NFL already saying they did not know about this prior to reinstating him and it's also a possible parole violation.

Also a pretty good indication that he doesn’t have his issues under control. If he’s living with Brady, maybe he’s able to control himself, but I would say this doesn’t bode well for him.

[The Frankman 3,302]

It bodes terribly for him because the eyes of the NFL will be on him even more. This guy seemingly can't help himself, and that statement by his spokeswoman... OOF.

Edited November 17, 2020 by The Frankman

[osubuckeyeman 182]

Going to ride the train till it derails.  

[wgoldsph 945]

Okay so maybe it's just the middle class in me talking but why the heck is he living somewhere with a HOA?  He can't buy a house without neighbors knowing how must scrutiny he's under?

[Hankmoody 3,755]

1 hour ago, wgoldsph said:

Okay so maybe it's just the middle class in me talking but why the heck is he living somewhere with a HOA?  He can't buy a house without neighbors knowing how must scrutiny he's under?

Many high end/gated/country club communities operate under an HOA.

[Scooby1974 157]

10 hours ago, Hankmoody said:

Many high end/gated/country club communities operate under an HOA.

Exactly. Rich people and retirees don't like mowing and moving snow. They also don't want their property values going to pot with a deadbeat homeowner.

[Faust 5,016]

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The NFL is reviewing Antonio Brown's alleged destruction of a security camera in a dispute with his homeowners association in October. 

Brown, who didn't face any charges over the incident, also allegedly threw a bike at a security guard in his latest tantrum. The Bucs claimed to be unaware of the incident. It's the latest in a long line of outbursts from the volatile Brown, who has a pending civil lawsuit against him alleging sexual assault and rape. Dez Bryant recently came to Brown's defense on Twitter after reporting on Brown's run-in with the HOA surfaced. At last check, Bruce Arians and Tom Brady stand by their guy. 

SOURCE: Tom Pelissero on Twitter 

Nov 17, 2020, 12:46 PM ET

 

[Morton Muffley 1,480]

2 hours ago, Faust said:

The NFL is reviewing Antonio Brown's alleged destruction of a security camera in a dispute with his homeowners association in October. 

Brown, who didn't face any charges over the incident, also allegedly threw a bike at a security guard in his latest tantrum. The Bucs claimed to be unaware of the incident. It's the latest in a long line of outbursts from the volatile Brown, who has a pending civil lawsuit against him alleging sexual assault and rape. Dez Bryant recently came to Brown's defense on Twitter after reporting on Brown's run-in with the HOA surfaced. At last check, Bruce Arians and Tom Brady stand by their guy. 

SOURCE: Tom Pelissero on Twitter 

Nov 17, 2020, 12:46 PM ET

Looks like Pelissero has amended his above statement to clarify that it is the league and NOT the Bucs who were unaware of the incident.

 

Tom Pelissero

@TomPelissero

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3h

The NFL is reviewing the incident last month in which police say #Bucs WR Antonio Brown destroyed a security camera and threw a bike at a security shack, I’m told. This is standard. The league wasn’t aware of the incident prior to reinstating Brown, who wasn’t charged.

[doeseatplace 348]

6 hours ago, Scooby1974 said:

Exactly. Rich people and retirees don't like mowing and moving snow. They also don't want their property values going to pot with a deadbeat homeowner.

It’s Florida 

[Max55 56]

It’s big Bens fault. 

[Enderdog 112]

10 hours ago, Scooby1974 said:

Exactly. Rich people and retirees don't like mowing and moving snow. They also don't want their property values going to pot with a deadbeat homeowner.

You know the neighbors love him living next door.

[wgoldsph 945]

21 hours ago, Hankmoody said:

Many high end/gated/country club communities operate under an HOA.

 

11 hours ago, Scooby1974 said:

Exactly. Rich people and retirees don't like mowing and moving snow. They also don't want their property values going to pot with a deadbeat homeowner.

Yeah, I understand this.  You're missing my point.  Why didn't he buy a house with a lot of land between him and the neighbors and hire a service to handle the lawn?

[NotSmart 2,887]

17 minutes ago, wgoldsph said:

 

Yeah, I understand this.  You're missing my point.  Why didn't he buy a house with a lot of land between him and the neighbors and hire a service to handle the lawn?

There have been a lot of sentences about AB that started with "Why didn't he just...".

[Godsbrother 6,905]

I thought he was living with Brady?

[John123 23]

2 hours ago, Godsbrother said:

I thought he was living with Brady?

I believe this incident occurred before he joined TB.

[Faust 5,016]

On 11/17/2020 at 1:29 PM, Morton Muffley said:

Looks like Pelissero has amended his above statement to clarify that it is the league and NOT the Bucs who were unaware of the incident.

 

Tom Pelissero

@TomPelissero

·

3h

The NFL is reviewing the incident last month in which police say #Bucs WR Antonio Brown destroyed a security camera and threw a bike at a security shack, I’m told. This is standard. The league wasn’t aware of the incident prior to reinstating Brown, who wasn’t charged.

Antonio Brown's latest alleged outburst was news to NFL. Will he be suspended again?

[kyoun1e 896]

Just looked at S. Bloom's projections for AB this week. 

16.5 PPR points. #9 WR overall.

Surprised.

What like to understand this logic understanding the LAR matchup. I have both Evans and AB and if Ramsey is on Evans maybe that's what Sig is thinking.

[Johnny Utah #9 232]

44 minutes ago, kyoun1e said:

Just looked at S. Bloom's projections for AB this week. 

16.5 PPR points. #9 WR overall.

Surprised.

What like to understand this logic understanding the LAR matchup. I have both Evans and AB and if Ramsey is on Evans maybe that's what Sig is thinking.

Yeah, I’m thinking that’s the logic Sig is going with here. Ramsey should be on Evans on one boundary, Godwin in the slot, and AB on the other boundary and some slot as well. AB could catch some Ramsey as well, but nowhere near as much as Evans. Also Ramsey is just a better matchup on Evans given his size. He always does well vs the larger WRs (see DK last week).

I still like Godwin the best of the three by far this week, as I see Brady throwing a lot of short stuff to avoid the pass rush, but AB will be in the mix for some of that as well. The ranking is a bit aggressive but I can see the reasoning.

[jrt103 280]

What kind of bike are we talking about here?  A little kids bike? a full size adult bike?  Seems like that would just be awkward to get a good throwing grip on?

[Faust 5,016]

 

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Bucs coach Bruce Arians said the team will "move on" from Antonio Brown as soon as the WR isn't "a model citizen."

Being a bad resident in a homeowners association to the point of destroying a security camera must not qualify. Arians has a history with Brown, so he likely knows better than most what to expect from the erratic receiver. On the field, Brown has yet to make a game-changing impact in two contests as a Buccaneer.

SOURCE: Sirius XM on Twitter

Nov 18, 2020, 8:33 PM ET

 

[Faust 5,016]

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[Faust 5,016]

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Antonio Brown caught 8-of-13 targets for 57 yards in the Bucs' Week 11 loss to the Rams.

Brown led the Bucs in targets, catches, and yards on a night Tom Brady dinked and dunked his way down the field for just 216 yards while facing some intense pressure at times. Brown made some sticky catches, but he didn't do anything downfield. He has 157 scoreless yards on 26 targets through three games with the Bucs. Brown is on the WR3 map for Week 12 against the Chiefs.

Nov 24, 2020, 12:00 AM ET

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[ffmail4me 769]

I gave up a 3rd next year to grab him in a dynasty league best ball format. So far so good, seems like he and Brady are getting more in sync each week. Only bad part is Godwin's numbers taking a dip...

[kyoun1e 896]

Grabbed him when the news first broke and he's my #4 WR...and climbing.

Hard to not get excited about what we're seeing. He's getting a ton of targets. Last two weeks he's at least been flex worthy. And last night he exceeded most projections...against arguably the toughest WR matchup in the league. And Brady missed him deep a couple times.

Going to be tough to sit @KC this week in a potential shootout. And will be difficult to sit during the fantasy playoffs when TB runs into MN, @ATL, @DET.

Yum.

[DropKick 1,088]

4 hours ago, kyoun1e said:

Grabbed him when the news first broke and he's my #4 WR...and climbing.

Hard to not get excited about what we're seeing. He's getting a ton of targets. Last two weeks he's at least been flex worthy. And last night he exceeded most projections...against arguably the toughest WR matchup in the league. And Brady missed him deep a couple times.

Going to be tough to sit @KC this week in a potential shootout. And will be difficult to sit during the fantasy playoffs when TB runs into MN, @ATL, @DET.

Yum.

One of my concerns, and I own Godwin and AB, is the meager yardage totals on all those targets.  Missing on the deep throws; not sure if that is Brady or has Brown lost a step?

[jrt103 280]

21 hours ago, DropKick said:

One of my concerns, and I own Godwin and AB, is the meager yardage totals on all those targets.  Missing on the deep throws; not sure if that is Brady or has Brown lost a step?

they both have, but probably mostly Brady

[DallasDMac 2,774]

On 11/24/2020 at 7:05 PM, DropKick said:

One of my concerns, and I own Godwin and AB, is the meager yardage totals on all those targets.  Missing on the deep throws; not sure if that is Brady or has Brown lost a step?

ESPN Article: Brady actually started the year with great efficiency in the downfield passing game, completing 11 of 22 deep attempts (20-plus air yards) during the first four games. But it's been quite a struggle since Week 5, with the quarterback completing just three of his past 36 deep shots -- and none of his last 22.

Doesn't sound like Brown is the issue.