I thought they said the hippo was 5'9 but AB is 5'10.He’s too tall.
I doubt it.do we actually think he played his last game in Pitt or will cooler heads prevail?
He also said in the wild west (AFC West?) when you get knocked down you gotta get back in the saddle.He didn't say Bronco he said Horses.
So possible Colts....
OMG I hate myself
Cowboy!!! Zeke. BoomHe also said in the wild west (AFC West?) when you get knocked down you gotta get back in the saddle.
and the I like horses line...Manning was a colt and bronco...the Ravens beware could have been a reference to the Manning - Ray Lewis matchups over the years...and the Deers strength at the beginning was Longevity which tells me he played for a long time and it did show him holding a trophy of some sort.
Jesus what's wrong with me
Eeit: I don't think Manning can sing at all tho, so maybe not.
I think the relationship can still be saved if AB is willing to take some steps to make amends. I think he's dug in and has no interest in doing that so as much as I hate it I think that really nice sideline catch he made with about a minute to go in the game against the Saints was his last catch as a Steeler.do we actually think he played his last game in Pitt or will cooler heads prevail?
Hippo was introduced as 5’10”. I do expect the show to flub heights by an inch here and there, though.I thought they said the hippo was 5'9 but AB is 5'10.
IIRC
Unless they get a really good player in return or multiple players the two teams that have good draft capital that could make a move on him would be Green Bay and the Raiders. Personally I think he's done there and without a trade I could see him pulling a Leveon move and sit out. Green Bay would make sense for the Steelers since he would be out of the conference and can you imagine a Adams/Brown combo with Rodgers?do we actually think he played his last game in Pitt or will cooler heads prevail?
Disagree. Showing up on Sunday after skipping every practice during the week, missing meetings, missing the Saturday walk through, all while going "radio silent" with the Steelers does not meet the criteria of making yourself available for the game.He came to the stadium to play. He essentially skipped practice, not the game. It's not professional but neither is some of the stuff TO pulled but it's not quite accurate to keep portraying this in a way that suggests he did not make himself available to play.
Sorry, but I think you're in the wrong thread. The Larry Fitzgerald thread is two doors down the hall.It’s funny how sometimes the best players in the game don’t have very long threads. And it’s also a testament to how little controversy and concern there has been around him over the years, because that is what causes people to post. He’s been a solid professional.
He came to the game to not lose a game check.He came to the stadium to play. He essentially skipped practice, not the game. It's not professional but neither is some of the stuff TO pulled but it's not quite accurate to keep portraying this in a way that suggests he did not make himself available to play.
Aside from AB which teammates are upset with Ben?Got the perfect storm in PIT with the best WR in football who still has a turd for a brain ...
live streaming the post game locker room including commentary from his coaches post-game speech that was embarrassing to be heard outside the locker room.
now his antics last week included ... throwing a football at his QB then not showing up to practice the rest of the week, missing all team meetings, and failing to respond to the team, coaches, or players when they reached out to him.
... their star RB that holds out for an entire season giving up millions upon millions in franchise tag money ...
Vet QB who consistently throws teammates under the bus and obviously is getting under the skin of those teammates ...
and a head coach that lacks control of all of this as his locker room continues to be a circus and continues to be "out coached" in the big games.
Something has to change in PIT. Players or coach? Both?
I think they will try to sit everyone down and come to an understanding but I fear the relationship between Tomlin and AB is to the point where it cannot be salvaged. The video clip of he and Harrison carrying on while listening to Tomlin's press conference was the ultimate show of disrespect. I think AB needs to goI think the relationship can still be saved if AB is willing to take some steps to make amends. I think he's dug in and has no interest in doing that so as much as I hate it I think that really nice sideline catch he made with about a minute to go in the game against the Saints was his last catch as a Steeler.
No way. Cost control, my friend. And age. More like a three.I asked this in the Steelers thread but it probably is more appropriate here:
So for the sake of argument let's say the Steelers decide to bite the bullet and trade AB. What kind of return would they get?
Anyone giving up a #1 for arguably the best receiver in football but is a malcontent and turning 31?
I dont think so.I asked this in the Steelers thread but it probably is more appropriate here:
So for the sake of argument let's say the Steelers decide to bite the bullet and trade AB. What kind of return would they get?
Anyone giving up a #1 for arguably the best receiver in football but is a malcontent and turning 31?
The funny thing is they got a 3rd rounder for Martavis Bryant just last year...No way. Cost control, my friend. And age. More like a three.
Yeah, I was thinking the Steelers should try to get a bunch of those #1 from OAK for AB if Bryant is worth a 3The funny thing is they got a 3rd rounder for Martavis Bryant just last year...
The Raiders have three first round picks. Maybe they will try again to get a Steelers WR, but this time trade one of their 1st rounders.The funny thing is they got a 3rd rounder for Martavis Bryant just last year...No way. Cost control, my friend. And age. More like a three.
Fair enough. Ask away.The funny thing is they got a 3rd rounder for Martavis Bryant just last year...
But seriously, what is "his way"? What does he want? He's one of the highest paid WRs in the game today, on a deal with multiple years remaining. Through week 16 (as he didn't play week 17) he was tied as the most targeted player in the game (167 targets, tied with D Adams) - 13 more than Juju, and the most he's had in 3 years.Tomlins lack of control of his lockerroom is finally coming back to bite him......what a #### show this season has been in Pittsburgh....and AB is a whiny prima Donna.....he's acting like a 3 year old who doesn't get his way.
Exactly. He also led all WR in TDs this year with 15 (a career high). His anger with the Steelers is puzzling.But seriously, what is "his way"? What does he want? He's one of the highest paid WRs in the game today, on a deal with multiple years remaining. Through week 16 (as he didn't play week 17) he was tied as the most targeted player in the game (167 targets, tied with D Adams) - 13 more than Juju, and the most he's had in 3 years.
He averaged a TD a game. Let that sink in.Exactly. He also led all WR in TDs this year with 15 (a career high). His anger with the Steelers is puzzling.
Really nothing to disagree or agree on. There is a difference in preparing to play and being available to play. Ty Hilton did not practice for weeks and still played. He was available to play and at the game. Period. This is not a debate. He was available to play and the team, rightfully so in my opinion, told him no.Disagree. Showing up on Sunday after skipping every practice during the week, missing meetings, missing the Saturday walk through, all while going "radio silent" with the Steelers does not meet the criteria of making yourself available for the game.
First I've heard he missed a game check.He came to the game to not lose a game check.
I think he’s saying he didn’t lose a game check because he showed up. If he was AWOL, he wouldn’t have been paid.First I've heard he missed a game check.
Um, I think you just made my point.......seems like a dude who wants out, and will go to like SF and realize how good he had it .....and the way he handles his business is childishBut seriously, what is "his way"? What does he want? He's one of the highest paid WRs in the game today, on a deal with multiple years remaining. Through week 16 (as he didn't play week 17) he was tied as the most targeted player in the game (167 targets, tied with D Adams) - 13 more than Juju, and the most he's had in 3 years.
That's a good question and with all of his other antics tone wonder if his mental state is an issue and he has no idea what he wants.But seriously, what is "his way"? What does he want?
You have to be suspended, teams can't just choose to not pay you.I think he’s saying he didn’t lose a game check because he showed up. If he was AWOL, he wouldn’t have been paid.
Really nothing to disagree or agree on.
I disagree that we don't have anything to disagree onit's not quite accurate to keep portraying this in a way that suggests he did not make himself available to play.
We can drop it, but AB DID go AWOL by not showing up to the MRI, not showing up to meetings, not returning calls by Tomlin, not showing up on Saturday walk through --- that is the definition of AWOL.Neither of those two actually went AWOL
Even having his agent call Tomlin on Sunday morning saying that he was available to play. WTF is that?We can drop it, but AB DID go AWOL by not showing up to the MRI, not showing up to meetings, not returning calls by Tomlin, not showing up on Saturday walk through --- that is the definition of AWOL.
Well... teams can suspend players and not pay them, as PHI did to TO. "Conduct detrimental to the team." So technically teams can just choose to suspend you and not pay you. Not trying to be picky here... but when I read your post I felt like you were implying they have to be suspended from the commissioner's office, and the team has no say really.You have to be suspended, teams can't just choose to not pay you.
Stars tend to be drama queens or have large egosLots of drama around the steelers for some reason. I wonder if brown is close with bell
juju's gonna have his bike stolen again it seemsRumor saying he was pissed because the team voted JuJu as team MVP and not Brown who had it the last 4 years previously...
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/01/03/team-mvp-snub-may-have-sparked-antonio-browns-ire/
Team MVP? Does every NFL team participate in this? What an awful idea.Rumor saying he was pissed because the team voted JuJu as team MVP and not Brown who had it the last 4 years previously...
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/01/03/team-mvp-snub-may-have-sparked-antonio-browns-ire/
Should have been obvious I was talking about at a team imposed suspension.Well... teams can suspend players and not pay them, as PHI did to TO. "Conduct detrimental to the team." So technically teams can just choose to suspend you and not pay you. Not trying to be picky here... but when I read your post I felt like you were implying they have to be suspended from the commissioner's office, and the team has no say really.
I'll just ask one question and be done with this. If Tomlin allowed AB to play would he have been able and present to play? The answer is obviously yes.I disagree that we don't have anything to disagree on
Showing up to the game is not enough to "make himself available to play" - that's too little too late. He fell way short of the "make himself available to play" line. His actions all made him unavailable to play.