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WR Antonio Brown, FA (14 Viewers)
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Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
What they must do at this point.
Putting their support behind him with his helmet fiasco didn't work obviously. This is a bad team with or without Antonio Brown. Get out of the contract and move on.
They'll need another outside WR long-term but I think they struck gold in the slot with Renfrow. He has the short area quickness that NFL really value (see contracts awarded to Beasley and Humphries). And you just really never know. His outcomes could range from Beasley to Edelman. He fits well with what Carr does.
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Hairy Snowman
Footballguy
"surprised if AB ever plays a game in a Raiders uniform". "I will hit you in the face. (AB punt ball). Fine me for that". Crazy. Business is boomin' alright! Wow.
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Hairy Snowman
Footballguy
I think Mayock SHOULD fine him. AND let him play. They can always get conduct detrimental. Mayock has him. He can turn the screws until AB pops if he wants.
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rzrback77
Footballguy
There has been tremendous support over the helmet issue and yet, he just keeps on being a clown. I believe that you are correct and that he will never play a down for the Raiders.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Yeah that's not happening.
You can say what you want about Mayock from his TV days but he's handled this situation (and the helmet situation) very well.
metoo
Footballguy
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
[Tafur]One of the players holding Antonio Brown back from the near-altercation with GM Mike Mayock was ... Vontaze Burfict.
https://twitter.com/victafur/status/1169665597581381632?s=21
Probably a bad thing when Ryan Leaf relates himself to you: https://twitter.com/ryandleaf/status/1169651836875182081?s=21
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
If Brown is on the roster for Week 1 it automatically guarantees his entire 2019 season salary since he is a vested veteran.
So if the Raiders don't want to pay him that $14M for this year, they need to cut him before Monday.
Soulfly3
Footballguy
shrug.gifHot Sauce Guy said:Didn’t you give Josh Gordon like 1,374,926 chances?
metoo
Footballguy
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
He's not at practice today.
There is zero chance that the Raiders would let him do a press conference right now.
Gary Coal Man
Footballguy
I think Mayock would take AB in a fight. He’s older, but he seems tougher at the core.
simey
Footballguy
He got concussed during the 2015 season. He wasn't too bad with his behaviour during the 2016 season. The worst was he got in trouble for taping the locker room celebration of a playoff game. 2017 he got a big pay day. His bad behavior really started to surface. 2018 his behavior got worse. 2019 his bad behavior is continuing. Maybe the hit by Burfict changed his brain. Maybe the big pay day brought out his true colors, and he is an entitled jerk. Maybe he has a mental illness that needs to be addressed. Maybe it is multiple things. Whatever the reason, he is his own worst enemy right now.
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Sorry if this was covered but have a question.
If the Raiders decide to suspend and cut does anyone know how long they can keep him suspended/inactive? Whole season, 4 games? Can't believe it's come to this but now find myself hoping they don't have a mechanism to inactivate him all season and hopefully someone will want to pick him him up. Assuming he is cut that is, which I got bad feeling about.
If the Raiders decide to suspend and cut does anyone know how long they can keep him suspended/inactive? Whole season, 4 games? Can't believe it's come to this but now find myself hoping they don't have a mechanism to inactivate him all season and hopefully someone will want to pick him him up. Assuming he is cut that is, which I got bad feeling about.
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Bobtender
Footballguy
Hairy Snowman
Footballguy
irish eyes
Footballguy
Statorama
gangster
It has to be tough tip-toeing around someone like AB, but it would be cool if someone stepped in and was the adult here. Gruden maybe? Gruden starts with Mayock, trys and talk him into giving a "it's overblown...AB's a competitor, I'm a competitor...." lines in the press and having AB doing the same. Nobody apologizes, nobody has to back down.
Normally I'd brush this away with the thought that the first 10-100 game he has, all will be forgiven. But he seems like he's going to be a major problem all season long. His lack of self-awareness is shocking.
jm192
Footballguy
I’m 100% buying right now.
I think I have one share in a redraft league where he fell, and one in best ball.
I feel like his value Hass to be through the floor, and owners have to be frustrated as hell.
If anyone is selling, what are you looking for? Or if you’ve recently picked him up, what did you give?
I think I have one share in a redraft league where he fell, and one in best ball.
I feel like his value Hass to be through the floor, and owners have to be frustrated as hell.
If anyone is selling, what are you looking for? Or if you’ve recently picked him up, what did you give?
apalmer
Footballguy
Steeler
Footballguy
Hypothetically, what are the financial ramifications if the Raiders cut AB today? Would they automatically get the signing bonus back or would they have to go to court/arbitrator to recoup that money.
If the Raiders do cut AB today, would any teams be willing to sign this guy?
If the Raiders do cut AB today, would any teams be willing to sign this guy?
cobalt_27
Footballguy
It doesn’t make perfect sense because (1) even in our preliminary understanding of the syndrome, which has no definitive answers and myriad questions outstanding, the one thing that has been repeatedly established is that concussions themselves, no matter the number or supposed severity, are not associated with CTE; (2) at WR he is not subject to the chronic repetitive subconcussive trauma which is thought to possibly be what promotes tau aggregation; and (3) his behavior is more likely explained by long standing personality issues, not a neurodegenerative brain disorder.
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brewer
Footballguy
He's on the fast track out of the NFL. Don't think anyone can control him at this point.
That's hardly a given. In fact it'd probably be the next monthslong NFL courtroom drama.
irish eyes
Footballguy
If I'm Mayock & gruden overrides him and let's him play, I'd be walking out the door at that minute
Stinkin Ref
IBL Representative
if he thought the fines weren't that big of a deal and the team should have just over looked them.....why didn't he just pay them...?...
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Hairy Snowman
Footballguy
It is a given it is grounds for cancelling the contract (per Ian Rapoport). But, yeah, anything is possible once you enter the courtroom and this would be headed there. My understanding is that much of it revolves around whether he plays in Game 1. Rapoport just stated that if he is suspended for Game 1, then his SEASON is no longer guaranteed and would be the key to voiding the remainder of the contract. But I have not read the contract, so this is only hearsay.
LaneOfSteel™
Footballguy
Hunter Renfrow?
Team Smokin'
Footballguy
This is a situation where the Raiders are not going to let Mr Prima Donna dictate things.
Grigs Allmoon
Footballguy
Unfortunately, I would be shocked if there weren't teams lining up for his services. I really wish that weren't the case and teams would black ball him to set an example.
