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WR Antonio Brown, FA (6 Viewers)
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It is if PM stands for public messageThat’s not how this works. That’s not how any of this works.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Dope
Footballguy
Thanks for keeping me on point, but im fairly certain everyone knows what i meanThat’d be one crazy AF resolution since the Raiders don’t play until Monday night.
cloppbeast
Footballguy
Apples to oranges really. One is directly related to his job, the other is an off the field behavior. Only in our hyper judgmental society does personal conduct become a factor.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
So no trade forecast then?
lol
sorry - just thought it was funny. I’m not sure I agree it’ll all be sunshine & butterflies, but you can bet Drew Rosenhaus has a pucker-factor of 11 right now.
Whats 5% of $30,000,000?
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Leeroy Jenkins
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If the Raiders don’t suspend him to protect themselves from the guaranteed money, they are being negligent. The fines/letter was to build a papertrail to justify a later suspension. After he acted this way, they need to suspend him for game 1 so they can cut bait this year if necessary. Knowing his money is at risk may scare him straight.
bostonfred
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If they actually said they were suspending him - and I'm not sure that's been confirmed - it would be a mistake not go through with it.
If he physically threatened mayock, it would be a mistake not to suspend him.
It would also be a mistake to suspend him for more than one game. There's no meaningful difference between one game and two except that it hurts the team more and creates more bad blood with the player.
I expect a one game suspension and a public apology in drew's handwriting.
BoltBacker
Footballguy
Well, he's kind of been on his own program apart from the team since he got to oak, no?That’d be one crazy AF resolution since the Raiders don’t play until Monday night.
The only story I have heard from being around his teammates were the criticisms that he was playing on mobile devices during team meetings. At this point does he even know the playbook? Does he have ANY chemistry with Carr?
Rove!
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FinHead
Footballguy
Agree, AP is a POS.
Brown just seems like he's going off the deep-end, or he really does have regrets and is causing a scene become some other team has been courting him.
Hot Sauce Guy
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Leeroy Jenkins
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Suspend him one game so his money is threatened. He either gets it together after that or if still a wacko or gets worse you then can cut him. Don’t cut him now and make him a FA to sign wherever. That’s a reward.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
As a long time Raider fan, I hated this trade from the start. I never understood why a rebuilding team would give up any draft picks for a 31-year old WR no matter how great he is. Throw in that the WR has been crazy on a great time and the move made no sense.
The Raiders better suspend Brown for at least one game in the first step towards cutting him and getting out of the contract. With Brown, the Riaders may win 6 games. Without Brown, the Raiders win less games and that is better for a rebuilding team in need of early draft picks.
Gopher State
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Just watch ww you get him for freeDropKick said:
Hot Sauce Guy
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az_prof
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Can I just say that you are brilliant. I want someone like you in the negotiating room with me!
Rhythmdoctor
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The Duff Man
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wormburner
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simey
Footballguy
Today a reporter that had a recent interview with Antonio stated that he said the only person on the Steelers that told him to be more mature with his bad antics was Big Ben.
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[scooter]
Footballguy
Brown doesn't really control his destiny, though. He can't force the Raiders to cut him. In the very least, they can control him for the next 4 weeks (which is the maximum time you can suspend a player for Conduct Detrimental To The Team, as long as the player is meeting the minimum requirements of the NFL's conduct policy). But if Brown re-offends, then the Raiders can just suspend him for another 4 games, and so on. And even if Brown behaves himself, the Raiders could still get pretty petty by putting him on the active roster and just benching him every week.
ILUVBEER99
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AB only wants to play for the Raiders for the money. He doesn't want to be a Raider. it's the biggest dumpster fire in the NFL.voiceofunreason
Footballguy
He’s the one that coddled him for years and made him entitled. Pretty clear Tomlin doesn’t hold the stars accountable.
[scooter]
Footballguy
I would think that if AB was really in it for the money then he would have been savvy enough to cut back on the lunacy just long enough to have his salary guaranteed.
ILUVBEER99
Footballguy
GL with the lawsuit if OAK cuts him. They might settle for a lesser amount but AB will still get paid from another team.
Mayock is a TV announcer, not a GM. In the end AB will win if he gets cut.
Steelers ate $20m+ in cap to get rid of him. He quit on his team the final week of the regular season when they were fighting for a playoff spot. I don't think the Raiders are the problem here.
[scooter]
Footballguy
AB might "win" by signing with another team, but there's no way he'll get $30 million of guaranteed money.
If the Raiders cut him, he won't see any of that guaranteed money.
Hairy Snowman
Footballguy
From what I understand, zero chance AB plays Monday night. That would make the first season no longer guaranteed, but paid to play. Start there.
Mayock has AB. AB ain't going anywhere. AB ain't getting traded. AB ain't getting cut. If AB wants to play football, AB is going to deal with Mayock and Gruden and the rest of his teammates face to face, man to man. And it starts by triggering the "no longer guaranteed" clause.
Question is: Will AB man up and apologize to Mayock, Gruden and his teammates for how he acted in practice? Or is he going to continue in this trajectory?
Mayock has AB. AB ain't going anywhere. AB ain't getting traded. AB ain't getting cut. If AB wants to play football, AB is going to deal with Mayock and Gruden and the rest of his teammates face to face, man to man. And it starts by triggering the "no longer guaranteed" clause.
Question is: Will AB man up and apologize to Mayock, Gruden and his teammates for how he acted in practice? Or is he going to continue in this trajectory?
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ILUVBEER99
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ILUVBEER99
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yet the Raiders paid him after knowing that. it's their own fault. I hope AB wins just to show how inept the Raiders front office is.
Joe Summer
Footballguy
The Raiders got away with stiffing Mike Shanahan, Lane Kiffin, and JaMarcus Russell. Pretty sure they'll be able to get away with stiffing Brown too.
Interseptopus
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simsarge
Footballguy
Pretty sure that the last person who's word I'd believe about AB's "bad antics" and who said what to him is AB.
Judge Smails
Footballguy
Teflon Jon is the one who needs to be crucified. What a farce in every aspect.
32 Counter Pass
Footballguy
Naw, if the Raiders cut him the Chiefs immediately come to mind as a team that would sign AB. Charter issues are Ried’s bag. Can you imagine the Chiefs with AB? Wow!
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I can imagine it being a hot mess.
What team has the cap room to sign AB even if he does get cut?
Could a “conduct detrimental” team thing also be enforced as a “conduct detrimental” league thing & result in a suspension? Someone mentioned 4 games earlier...
would seem to go hand-in-glove. Every bit of Brown’s shenanigans has been a bad look. I don’t think it’s going on a limb to say the league might discipline him too. Otherwise there’s a risk of the perception being that AB was rewarded for this behavior.
Can’t be threatening to punch a GB. That’s bad for ball.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
They have a GM that’s never done the job. This is gruden’s team. Make no mistake. His and his alone. They’ll throw mayock out whenever it suits them.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
Judge Smails
Footballguy
Mayock is his guy. Like Bruce Allen before. He already got Reggie tossed. Can’t do the blame game on the GM again this quick
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
I'm surprised that some of you seem to think that the Raiders suspending Brown and voiding all of his guaranteed money is going to have an end result of calming Brown down.
This is the same guy that forced his way out of Pittsburgh when it's still not clear what he was even so upset about. And who threatened to retire because he couldn't wear the helmet he wanted to wear anymore. You think he's going to take the humiliation of losing his guaranteed money and just tuck his tail between his legs and come back and play hard? I just don't see anything that would indicate that is likely.
This is the same guy that forced his way out of Pittsburgh when it's still not clear what he was even so upset about. And who threatened to retire because he couldn't wear the helmet he wanted to wear anymore. You think he's going to take the humiliation of losing his guaranteed money and just tuck his tail between his legs and come back and play hard? I just don't see anything that would indicate that is likely.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
AB is clearly in need of help, not sure continuing to play football should be in his best interest at this point.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Well, doesn't seem like this is going to help:
https://twitter.com/ScottHanson/status/1169842948470538242?s=19
https://twitter.com/ScottHanson/status/1169842948470538242?s=19
