Interseptopus 5,722 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Steeler said: Steelers would never bring him back, no way. Raiders are more likely to bring him back than the Steelers. steelers bring him back then trade him at the deadline. would be incredible 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyU 3,934 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 18 minutes ago, [scooter] said: I think technically he was only guaranteed $15 million for being on the Week 1 roster. The other $15 million is for 2020 which would have required him to either be on the roster for Week 1 of 2020, or get cut for performance/injury reasons. 15M > $0 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
theplayer11 102 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, CGRdrJoe said: ok, Aaron henrnandez didn’t go kill someone and Josh Gordon has gotten off drugs both ridiculous examples Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Interseptopus 5,722 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Just now, theplayer11 said: both ridiculous examples both NE players with problems 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cloppbeast 1,415 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Chicago seems like a good fit. Not much at WR, and Mitch is great at throwing to the 1st read. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SoBeDad 2,243 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Why was Julio's new contract almost fully guaranteed, but not AB's. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Interseptopus 5,722 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Just now, cloppbeast said: Chicago seems like a good fit. Not much at WR, and Mitch is great at throwing in the vicinity of the 1st read. fixed it for ya 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Interseptopus 5,722 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) . Edited September 7, 2019 by Dr. Dan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Anarchy99 6,137 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 14 minutes ago, Steeler said: Agreed. But they also wouldn't put up with his crap should AB sign with them, right? NE / BB will simply tell him here is our offer and our terms, take it or leave it (complete with ways for them to get out from under the contract). No negotiating. They probably won't even let AB talk at all or make a counter offer. They CERTAINLY would not entertain a list of demands. At that point they would just say never mind. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyU 3,934 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Just now, cloppbeast said: Chicago seems like a good fit. Not much at WR, and Mitch is great at throwing to the 1st read. From what I read about Thursday's game Mitch would probably throw it over the head of his first read in his dreams. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Anarchy99 6,137 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 9 minutes ago, CGRdrJoe said: You keep saying 30 million but that was yanked, he was only going to make his week to week money. That's what is being reported, but that isn't really how things work. Anyone on an NFL contract at the close of business today has their 2019 salary fully guaranteed. So sure, he would get his weekly game check, but no matter what happened, he would be getting 17 weekly paychecks, even if they ended up cutting him. OAK couldn't decide after two games they weren't going to pay him. They could have tried the conduct detrimental to the team stuff and suspend him for 4 games. Whether he would be entitled to be paid in those 4 games would turn into a players association grievance case. But he was going to see his 2019 money. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Dufresne 11,667 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, SoBeDad said: Why was Julio's new contract almost fully guaranteed, but not AB's. Because you guarantee things you're relatively certain of. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Acrobat7 145 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 7 minutes ago, SoBeDad said: Why was Julio's new contract almost fully guaranteed, but not AB's. They might have different character traits and their respective GM picked up on it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Uncle Leo 163 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Get on the phone Gettleman. Rent him for a year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Smack Tripper 2,748 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Uncle Leo said: Get on the phone Gettleman. Rent him for a year. They just got out from Odell... they're on a "character" push Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SoBeDad 2,243 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, Andy Dufresne said: Because you guarantee things you're relatively certain of. Did Drew get the best deal for his client? In hindsight, maybe not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
irish eyes 1,234 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 22 minutes ago, theplayer11 said: nothing magical..it's a culture and players realize the crap they pulled on other teams will not be tolerated. Not just by the coach, but by the other players..that is the key. 16 minutes ago, CGRdrJoe said: ok, Aaron henrnandez didn’t go kill someone and Josh Gordon has gotten off drugs How dare you disparage the do no wrong Patriots. Shame on you, lol. So sick of hearing the same regurgitated Patriots crap. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Grigs Allmoon 1,070 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 51 minutes ago, Dr. Dan said: loving country music is odd? Not to go on a tangent, but yes. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dbc925 130 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Le'Veon Bell: I grossly overestimated my worth, misplayed my hand, and lost $14 million. Antonio Brown: Hold my beer. 5 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
simey 7,260 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Smack Tripper said: 4 minutes ago, Uncle Leo said: Get on the phone Gettleman. Rent him for a year. They just got out from Odell... they're on a "character" push Gettleman doesn't seem to care for big personality players. He got rid of Steve Smith Sr, Josh Norman, and OBJ. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hotlanta 10 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Can somebody explain to me what exactly he wanted from the Raiders? I don't think that is very clear. Why was he doing everything he could to sabotage this relationship? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Faust 5,016 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 NFL Rumors: Five Likely Antonio Brown Landing Spots After Release From The Raiders Possible Antonio Brown Landing Spots Quote Link to post Share on other sites
irish eyes 1,234 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, dbc925 said: Le'Veon Bell: I grossly overestimated my worth, misplayed my hand, and lost $14 million. Antonio Brown: Hold my beer. Now that's funny stuff right there lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chaka 6,241 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 So he ##$#ed away $30mil from a team that supported him unconditionally, for the opportunity to risk his health, career and financial future for a one year prove it contract. And that's if he's lucky. Judging by his decision making that we have seen, even if he signs for $100mil he's going to be bankrupt within five years of retirement. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Anarchy99 6,137 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 minute ago, hotlanta said: Can somebody explain to me what exactly he wanted from the Raiders? I don't think that is very clear. Why was he doing everything he could to sabotage this relationship? My best guess is that when he was on the Steelers, they let him get away with bad teammate behavior . . . late to meetings, not showing up to things, and basically being a diva. It sounds like he could do whatever and rarely if ever got fined. On Oakland, they didn't go for his shenanigans and fined him for the things that went against team and league rules. That set him off and sparked even more inappropriate behavior. AB apologized and thought that would result in his fines being waived, but instead the team fined him more money and took away his bonus money. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chaka 6,241 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, hotlanta said: Can somebody explain to me what exactly he wanted from the Raiders? I don't think that is very clear. Why was he doing everything he could to sabotage this relationship? Because he does not make well considered decisions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fruity pebbles 3,254 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, hotlanta said: Can somebody explain to me what exactly he wanted from the Raiders? I don't think that is very clear. Why was he doing everything he could to sabotage this relationship? What makes you think he wanted anything. He was just being himself. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevrunner 445 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 18 minutes ago, SoBeDad said: Why was Julio's new contract almost fully guaranteed, but not AB's. I guess the Falcons knew Julio outperformed and has been greatly underpaid compared to other WRs. The Falcons stepped up and rewarded Julio. The big guarantee $$$ in this contract, to me, is paying Julio for past performance also Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hammerva 516 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 I want to know more about this "emotional apology" that AB supposedly did about 12 hours ago that Gruden thought was so convincing. The same apology he backed off about 6 hours later. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Walking Boot 8,295 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Personally, I'm rooting for him to land in KC 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hotlanta 10 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Anarchy99 said: My best guess is that when he was on the Steelers, they let him get away with bad teammate behavior . . . late to meetings, not showing up to things, and basically being a diva. It sounds like he could do whatever and rarely if ever got fined. On Oakland, they didn't go for his shenanigans and fined him for the things that went against team and league rules. That set him off and sparked even more inappropriate behavior. AB apologized and thought that would result in his fines being waived, but instead the team fined him more money and took away his bonus money. Thanks. That makes sense. It's too bad that someone this talented can't just shut up and play football and collect his millions and live a life 99% of us just dream about, without all the prima donna stuff. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Anarchy99 6,137 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Just now, Walking Boot said: Personally, I'm rooting for him to land in KC Good luck with that. Reid's experience with T.O. turned out so well . . . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ShamrockPride 5,293 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 NFL fans: Man, I hate guys who just play for the checks Also NFL fans: AB U SO STOOPID, you just tossed away $30M 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ilov80s 29,161 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 47 minutes ago, Hot Sauce Guy said: Let’s go mile high perspective here. I don’t know what anyone here does for a living. I make hot sauce. It is what it is. I don’t make a lot of $ but I love what I do. Whatever your job, no matter how much you love or hate it, would you continue to do it with your head down & mouth shut for a month to get $30M? How about a week? I dunno about yous guys, but I’d straight up suck a D a day for a week for $30M $30M buys a lot of mouthwash is all I’m sayin. and I don’t think it matters how much $ you’ve got. You still want to make another $30M all of this points to serious mental illness for AB. He’s out of control. I don’t think playing football is in his best interests right now. I think my answer to that question would change quite a bit if I had already made $70 million 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ilov80s 29,161 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 7 minutes ago, fruity pebbles said: What makes you think he wanted anything. He was just being himself. Very likely. They traded for him and gave him the big deal. He felt like he was a prized asset for the team and expected superstar treatment. He is a guy who has gotten by in life with a me vs the world mentality, always having to beat the odds and prove himself so he clearly has a huge chip on his shoulder. When the Raiders didn't treat him the way he felt he should be treated, he got real pissed off, lashed out and wanted to show that he values himself more than he values the Raiders or his job, etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Interseptopus 5,722 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 AB felt disrespected the OAK players didnt vote him preseason MVP 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ffmail4me 769 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 I don't see how DC isn't a VERY likely destination. No true #1 WR, Dan Snyder wants any kind of attention he can get, and they have a track record of this- remember when D-Jax was cut and speculation about possible gang activity, well that didn't scare the Redskins at all, they immediately signed him...same with Josh Norman when he was cut. I think he lands in DC at 4:01pm. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kittenmittens 1,265 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ffmail4me said: I don't see how DC isn't a VERY likely destination. No true #1 WR, Dan Snyder wants any kind of attention he can get, and they have a track record of this- remember when D-Jax was cut and speculation about possible gang activity, well that didn't scare the Redskins at all, they immediately signed him...same with Josh Norman when he was cut. I think he lands in DC at 4:01pm. AP... after he whipped his 2 year old in the groin with a stick. Reuben Foster... Fresh off being cut for domestic abuse allegations. They unabashedly claimed him off waivers. Edited September 7, 2019 by kittenmittens Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevrunner 445 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 I just know after this, I will never watch Hard Knocks again, all the interesting stuff is cut out by the team and we only get the fluff. Even though this latest crap with AB came after the show ended, there had to be a whole lot that wasn't shown this season on Hard Knocks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ffmail4me 769 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 minute ago, kittenmittens said: AP... after he whipped his 2 year old in the groin with a stick. Reuben Foster... Fresh off being cut for domestic abuse allegations. Yep, should have posted those as well. I'm telling you, its probably already a done deal 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ShamrockPride 5,293 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, ffmail4me said: I don't see how DC isn't a VERY likely destination. No true #1 WR, Dan Snyder wants any kind of attention he can get, and they have a track record of this- remember when D-Jax was cut and speculation about possible gang activity, well that didn't scare the Redskins at all, they immediately signed him...same with Josh Norman when he was cut. I think he lands in DC at 4:01pm. Snyder would be absolutely fine with it because he's not the one who has to deal with the daily petulance. His coach does. If coach can't reel AB in, he'll just fire him and find a new one. Snyder logic... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cloppbeast 1,415 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, ffmail4me said: I don't see how DC isn't a VERY likely destination. No true #1 WR, Dan Snyder wants any kind of attention he can get, and they have a track record of this- remember when D-Jax was cut and speculation about possible gang activity, well that didn't scare the Redskins at all, they immediately signed him...same with Josh Norman when he was cut. I think he lands in DC at 4:01pm. This is the best landing spot for us FF nerds. Won't hurt any of our wide receivers value. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Anarchy99 6,137 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, ffmail4me said: I don't see how DC isn't a VERY likely destination. No true #1 WR, Dan Snyder wants any kind of attention he can get, and they have a track record of this- remember when D-Jax was cut and speculation about possible gang activity, well that didn't scare the Redskins at all, they immediately signed him...same with Josh Norman when he was cut. I think he lands in DC at 4:01pm. They only have $4 million in cap space. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spike 736 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 This was on page 77 at the start of today...now page 89 with no end in sight. BTW, just got a trade offer (dynasty PPR) involving Brown. I would sent Todd Gurley for Brown and a 2020 1st. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ilov80s 29,161 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Having already made $70 million, I would have no problem at any point walking off my job if I wasn't happy with how it was going. I taught with a guy who had 40+ years of experience. He had a pension and a very large personal savings but he still liked teaching. However, he told me that it was such a weight off his shoulders knowing he could retire whenever he wanted. He said if at any point the district administration made him do something he didn't want to do he would just immediately retire. That freedom and power has to feel good. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Todem 4,680 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Potential landing spots after 4PM today: Seattle Dallas Washington New England KC And he is still a lunatic but some team will absolutely sign him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ffmail4me 769 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, ShamrockPride said: Snyder would be absolutely fine with it because he's not the one who has to deal with the daily petulance. His coach does. If coach can't reel AB in, he'll just fire him and find a new one. Snyder logic... yep, pretty much! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Enderdog 112 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Deamon said: Or does he go to KC for cheap so he can stick it to the raiders and win a certain super bowl. I would be fine with that just to see how hard Burfict hits him the next time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Grigs Allmoon 1,070 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, Anarchy99 said: They only have $4 million in cap space. That seems like plenty to me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kittenmittens 1,265 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) Don't count out Cincinatti. They also have a very high tolerance for off the field issues players. Not sure about the new regime, but the owner meddles... Edited September 7, 2019 by kittenmittens Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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