Shutout 2,013 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 He will be a patriot or Raven or something like that before the sun goes down. I have to think he is wanting to go to a contender who can stick it to the Steelers in A big way. Wouldn't be surprised if he is on the New England sideline looking at how old teamsunday night Quote Link to post Share on other sites
az_prof 510 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 How big does this thread get? Any chance it rivals the infamous Michael Vick thread? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cap'n grunge 7,632 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 https://www.google.com/amp/s/chiefswire.usatoday.com/2019/09/07/kansas-city-chiefs-could-be-interested-in-former-oakland-raiders-wr-antonio-brown/amp/ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Anarchy99 6,137 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 minute ago, kittenmittens said: How much longer until we hear who he's signing with? I'm sure Rosenhaus is negotiating right now. He can't sign anywhere until 4:01 and it wouldn't be official until Monday. However, if AB wanted to explore his options and try to get a deal for the most money possible it would probably take a lot more than a few hours. Unless either of the following is true: 1) that there is a team willing to fork over big money or 2) he wanted off the Raiders and already had a destination picked out. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ShamrockPride 5,293 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Football Jones said: I don't think there was much interest in AB when the Steelers were shopping him. So he's now going to be in demand after all this? I dunno about that. You had to find someone to take on that huge contract. Contract will still likely be big but it's more manageable and now it's at least negotiable. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kittenmittens 1,265 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Football Jones said: I don't think there was much interest in AB when the Steelers were shopping him. So he's now going to be in demand after all this? I dunno about that. Didn't he get traded to Buffalo first, but refused to play for them? I bet the interest was also limited because it was a trade-and-pay situation. Nobody wants to give up draft capital for the privilege of laying out an irresponsible contract. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hot Sauce Guy 8,910 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 7 minutes ago, CKoz24 said: If I was in his situation and found out that Carr couldn’t hit him, I’d probably do this. If he wants to be the GOAT. I remember back to a WR in Jax (can’t remember who) that they were fed up Bortles couldn’t get him the ball even in practice. Jimmy Smith? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
3nOut 172 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 hour ago, ShamrockPride said: NFL fans: Man, I hate guys who just play for the checks Also NFL fans: AB U SO STOOPID, you just tossed away $30M Those are not mutually exclusive. Both comments are similar in that fans just want their players to care about the game, the fans, and their teammates. The first comment applies to players who don't do that. The second is for a player that doesn't care and STILL ended up with no money. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hot Sauce Guy 8,910 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 With my last post I accidentally clicked “notify me of replies” on this topic. My phone battery died in 18 seconds. 😳 1 1 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rockaction 23,088 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Just now, 3nOut said: Those are not mutually exclusive. Both comments are similar in that fans just want their players to care about the game, the fans, and their teammates. The first comment applies to players who don't do that. The second is for a player that doesn't care and STILL ended up with no money. People seem to lose all nuance in player/mgmt discussions around here and let their opinions about the relationship between the two color all behavior following therefrom. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
3nOut 172 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, Shutout said: He will be a patriot or Raven or something like that before the sun goes down. I have to think he is wanting to go to a contender who can stick it to the Steelers in A big way. Wouldn't be surprised if he is on the New England sideline looking at how old teamsunday night Don't think so. He just wants to go to a team where he can do anything he pleases without repurcussion and get all the glory. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hot Sauce Guy 8,910 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, cap'n grunge said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/chiefswire.usatoday.com/2019/09/07/kansas-city-chiefs-could-be-interested-in-former-oakland-raiders-wr-antonio-brown/amp/ If he goes to the Chiefs I’m gonna be pissed. Buzz kill for my Tyreek Hill stats. 😡 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JoeSteeler 3,407 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Too many mouths to feed in KC...He needs to be the main man Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Dufresne 11,667 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 +1 for Gruden at his presser... Closing with a joke, Gruden was asked if it was really his voice on the video Brown released, and answered, “It wasn’t Frank Caliendo.” 5 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rockaction 23,088 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 What was the whole thing with the feet? He may have Terrell Owens'ed himself out of the league. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rockaction 23,088 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Just now, JoeSteeler said: Too many mouths to feed in KC...He needs to be the main man He can be the man, for a million teams, but a million playoff teams? Who in the hunt has the money to sign him? Who wants to? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joffer 12,265 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Slowing down a little. Come on writers, give us something new Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Football Jones 1,461 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, kittenmittens said: Didn't he get traded to Buffalo first, but refused to play for them? I bet the interest was also limited because it was a trade-and-pay situation. Nobody wants to give up draft capital for the privilege of laying out an irresponsible contract. Yes (Bills). There was mild interest league-wide back then, but you have a point about draft capital. That said, the Steelers thought it was important enough to eat 21 mil this season & a 3rd/5th for AB pails in comparison to his on-field ability. There should've been a ton of interest when PIT was shopping him as it relates to talent, but it goes to show what the league was thinking (as a whole) & I imagine this latest episode will cause decreased interest overall. Edited September 7, 2019 by Football Jones 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
3nOut 172 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 On a side note, isn't it illegal to record a phone conversation without permission? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Todem 4,680 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 11 minutes ago, kittenmittens said: How much longer until we hear who he's signing with? I'm sure Rosenhaus is negotiating right now. 4:01 PM EST Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dizzy 803 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 minute ago, 3nOut said: On a side note, isn't it illegal to record a phone conversation without permission? Yes Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rockaction 23,088 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 minute ago, 3nOut said: On a side note, isn't it illegal to record a phone conversation without permission? Yes. Very much so in California. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Soulfly3 4,386 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 amazes me how few of you understand how little interest the league has in dealing w an AB. Top talent arguably in the nfl and the BEST they could get was a 21m.cap hit a 3rd and a 5th But ya... His value has risen after this disaster ooook Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kittenmittens 1,265 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 He will come crawling back to Buffalo and they will tell him to pound sand. Then he will sign with NE for cheap out of spite. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rockaction 23,088 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Just now, Todem said: 4:01 PM EST Nobody in the hunt is signing this guy. At all. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Anarchy99 6,137 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Football Jones said: Yes (Bills). There was mild interest league-wide back then, but you have a point about draft capital. That said, the Steelers thought it was important enough to eat 21 mil this season & a 3rd/5th for AB pails in comparison to his on-field ability. There should've been a ton of interest in AB when PIT was shopping him as it relates to talent, but it goes to show what the league was thinking as a whole & imagine this latest episode will cause decreased interest overall. The other element of trading for AB earlier in the year was that he wanted more guaranteed money (on top of the big bonuses and guarantees he got from the Steelers when he signed an extension a few years ago). So a team had to give up draft picks, give him tens of millions of dollars in guaranteed money, take on a huge annual salary, and deal with his personality and antics. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ShamrockPride 5,293 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 minute ago, 3nOut said: On a side note, isn't it illegal to record a phone conversation without permission? CA is a 2 way consent state. Both parties need to be aware. But Gruden said it was "awesome" (lol), sooooo I'll assume he's not going to press charges. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rockaction 23,088 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Just now, Soulfly3 said: amazes me how few of you understand how little interest the league has in dealing w an AB. Top talent arguably in the nfl and the BEST they could get was a 21m.cap hit a 3rd and a 5th But ya... His value has risen after this disaster ooook Yep. That's what I've been saying all along. They took a 3rd, 5th, and cap hit. Nobody is signing this dude. He legit crazy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hot Sauce Guy 8,910 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 minute ago, 3nOut said: On a side note, isn't it illegal to record a phone conversation without permission? Varies state to state but yes - In California, it’s a “2-party state”, which means both parties must consent to being recorded. that’s why some companies tell you at the onset of the call that you’re being recorded. You continuing the convo = consent once they’ve informed you. Antonio Brown committed a crime when he recorded Gruden, then confessed to it by broadcasting that recording. gruden could seek damages if he wanted to deal with it. Which I doubt he does. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Anarchy99 6,137 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Soulfly3 said: amazes me how few of you understand how little interest the league has in dealing w an AB. Top talent arguably in the nfl and the BEST they could get was a 21m.cap hit a 3rd and a 5th But ya... His value has risen after this disaster ooook If he agrees to play for the $2 million that Josh Gordon is getting, then A LOT of teams would be interested. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Todem 4,680 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Just now, rockaction said: Nobody in the hunt is signing this guy. At all. I have little doubt he will be signed quite quickly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Todem 4,680 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Soulfly3 said: amazes me how few of you understand how little interest the league has in dealing w an AB. Top talent arguably in the nfl and the BEST they could get was a 21m.cap hit a 3rd and a 5th But ya... His value has risen after this disaster ooook What amazes me is you saying after your team (The Browns) signed a RB who was on video dragging and kicking a female. Sheesh. Antonio Brown is going to be signed and play for another team next Sunday (or Monday night if one of those teams sign him). Edited September 7, 2019 by Todem Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Soulfly3 4,386 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Anarchy99 said: If he agrees to play for the $2 million that Josh Gordon is getting, then A LOT of teams would be interested. and what do you think the chances of that are after he was short 2 days from a 30m payday? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dizzy 803 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 minute ago, ShamrockPride said: CA is a 2 way consent state. Both parties need to be aware. But Gruden said it was "awesome" (lol), sooooo I'll assume he's not going to press charges. That's what he said publicly anyway. Imagine yourself in his shoes... wondering if everything you said to this guy could be on a file somewhere... probably turned right around after laughing to the public and said "get this guy the #### out of here" 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Todem 4,680 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, rockaction said: Yep. That's what I've been saying all along. They took a 3rd, 5th, and cap hit. Nobody is signing this dude. He legit crazy. You are dead wrong. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Football Jones 1,461 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Anarchy99 said: If he agrees to play for the $2 million that Josh Gordon is getting, then A LOT of teams would be interested. Yeah, his one & only chance is to accept a moderate salary. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rockaction 23,088 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Todem said: I have little doubt he will be signed quite quickly. I have little doubt you're completely and fully wrong. He was free for a 3rd and 5th and nobody wanted him. Now? He's all baggage. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Anarchy99 6,137 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 I would never say I ever felt sorry for Drew Rosenhaus, but I am guessing he wants to hide under a rock about now. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Soulfly3 4,386 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Just now, Todem said: What amazes me is you saying after your team (The Browns) signed a RB who was on video dragging and kicking a female. ). 1) i have zero interest in hunt. 2) hunt costs literally peanuts Quote Link to post Share on other sites
3nOut 172 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, Anarchy99 said: If he agrees to play for the $2 million that Josh Gordon is getting, then A LOT of teams would be interested. His ego is too big to agree to only $2M. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Todem 4,680 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Just now, rockaction said: I have little doubt you're completely and fully wrong. He was free for a 3rd and 5th and nobody wanted him. Now? He's all baggage. Ok man.......we will find out shortly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hot Sauce Guy 8,910 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Football Jones said: Yeah, his one & only chance is to accept a moderate salary. He’s very humble. This might happen. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rockaction 23,088 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Todem said: You are dead wrong. You dead certain in your dead wrongness. Let's just keep calling each other wrong. Or, let it play out and figure out who is right. Like me. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Todem 4,680 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Just now, Soulfly3 said: 1) i have zero interest in hunt. 2) hunt costs literally peanuts Brown lost his leverage for massive money.....he won’t cost 30MM guaranteed now. There is a market out there for him. He may be bat chit crazy.....but the guy is still one of the very best WR’s in the game and he will be playing this year and several more years on Sundays. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Anarchy99 6,137 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 minute ago, rockaction said: I have little doubt you're completely and fully wrong. He was free for a 3rd and 5th and nobody wanted him. Now? He's all baggage. He wasn't free. In fact, he was very expensive. Teams needed to pay him tens of millions of dollars in guaranteed money and take on a giant cap hit / salary. That doesn't mean no one wanted him. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dizzy 803 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, Hot Sauce Guy said: Varies state to state but yes - In California, it’s a “2-party state”, which means both parties must consent to being recorded. that’s why some companies tell you at the onset of the call that you’re being recorded. You continuing the convo = consent once they’ve informed you. Antonio Brown committed a crime when he recorded Gruden, then confessed to it by broadcasting that recording. gruden could seek damages if he wanted to deal with it. Which I doubt he does. Well, we only know the part of the conversation that AB used in his movie. What if there were other parts of that conversation we haven't heard yet? Maybe playing a little "good cop" and joining in the Mayock bashing to get AB to shut up and play football. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Soulfly3 4,386 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 whatever brown costs, and it'll be a LOT... How many teams willing to take that cap hit for X yrs? Seriously? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tricky92 496 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 9 minutes ago, Dizzy said: Yes Actually depends on the state. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Maximus* 235 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Todem said: Potential landing spots after 4PM today: Seattle Dallas Washington New England KC And he is still a lunatic but some team will absolutely sign him. . Jets should be in that group as well as I mentioned earlier. They have all the requirements: They have the cap space first and foremost. An incentive laden contract with major contingencies would be required to be agreed upon They've been in suckihood for many years. 9 years and counting since the last of those back to back AFC Championship games. They are desperate to make a playoff push. With AB, they not only likely make the playoffs, they probaby give the Pats a run for their money for the division. They have a QB with a great arm to get the ball to AB. Give Sam another weapon like AB would be nuts. Probably would make Darnold starteable in most 12 team fantasy leagues. They have the mngt team to keep AB in check. Douglass won't take any #### as indicated by saying sayanora to Polite. Gase won't put up with AB ####. And Williams might take a swing at him if AB ####ed with the team chemistry. Having LevBell there could be a good thing as they are familar with one another and I had always thought they got along well. AB ####s up even one time....see ya. He behaves...AB makes his money and Jets soar to new heights a year or so sooner than expected. Seems like a match made in heaven...lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rockaction 23,088 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, Soulfly3 said: 1) i have zero interest in hunt. 2) hunt costs literally peanuts Yes, because your team signing hunt affects how teams deal with Brown in what way? Guy can't even learn the playbook to get out there. God, this is stupid. I'll show myself out. Nobody wants this guy right now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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