identikit 1,388 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 I'm reporting, Eagles have agreed to terms on trade with brown(s) for RB jerome harrison Link to post Share on other sites
identikit 1,388 Posted October 13, 2010 Author Share Posted October 13, 2010 more from Glazer: Eagles have traded rb mike bell to browns for rb jerome harrison Link to post Share on other sites
Drink G2 1 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Somone break this down for me... - Jerome wasn't happy/in doghouse Thats all i got... Link to post Share on other sites
Clifford 406 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Mike Bell becomes an instant pickup for the desperate. Harrison's value unchanged. Link to post Share on other sites
eaglezzz 2 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 As an Eagles fan I like this move. If McCoy goes down or needs some rest Harrison is a much nicer fill in then Mike Bell. Looks like we finally have some depth at the RB position. Link to post Share on other sites
THE SNOWMAN 0 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Mike Bell becomes an instant pickup for the desperate. Harrison's value unchanged.So, do they not believe that Hillis can stay healthy? Link to post Share on other sites
packersfan 12,494 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Mike Bell becomes an instant pickup for the desperate. Harrison's value unchanged.I agree with both but don't start Bell this week if Hillis can't play. Link to post Share on other sites
eoMMan 5,663 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Harrison gets a BIG jump up in value. Link to post Share on other sites
Banger 5,529 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Harrison gets a BIG jump up in value.does he? Trying to figure it out and I see it as kind of neutral for both guys. Link to post Share on other sites
packersfan 12,494 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Harrison gets a BIG jump up in value.I don't see it. McCoy looks terrific so far. I think Harrison might get a few more touches than he was getting in Cleveland but unless McCoy gets hurt I don't see him having any value. Link to post Share on other sites
pantherclub 2,005 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Wow, the Browns continue to show me that they no nothing about football. this is such a lopsided trade its funny I dont get the Harrison hate in Cleveland Link to post Share on other sites
Steel Town 0 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 This seems like a wash, in terms of fantasy value, for both guys. They each will have a starter in front of them and will see limited opportunities. Link to post Share on other sites
Moniker 31 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 I dont get the Harrison hate in ClevelandHe's terrible. Link to post Share on other sites
emge 0 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 PHi needs an inside physical runner, if McCoy gets hurt, Harrison is someone who can carry the load and the eagles would trust. For Cle, they didn't want Harrison , and if Hillis goes down now they will now go with Bell Bell up a bit Harrison WAY up... I think this might hurt McCoy and Hillis a bit too, most only if they are hurt, because now their teams have someone else they can throw out... they might also lose some carries to the new RBs Link to post Share on other sites
eoMMan 5,663 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Harrison gets a BIG jump up in value.I don't see it. McCoy looks terrific so far. I think Harrison might get a few more touches than he was getting in Cleveland but unless McCoy gets hurt I don't see him having any value.He wasn't getting much playing time in Cleveland and although he won't get a ton of touches behind McCoy, it's still a ten times better situation for him. Look at it this way too, if he was starting in Philly versus starting in Cleveland, I think he's be a lot more productive from a fantasy standpoint in Philly.If McCoy goes down, he'll be money. Link to post Share on other sites
packersfan 12,494 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 This seems like a wash, in terms of fantasy value, for both guys. They each will have a starter in front of them and will see limited opportunities.I think it helps Bell a little because Hillis is hobbling. Unfortunately, he has a horrible matchup this week and in my opinion isn't as talented as Harrison. So the lesser talent gets the more immediate upgrade. Link to post Share on other sites
pantherclub 2,005 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 I dont get the Harrison hate in ClevelandHe's terrible.I guess you didnt watch his last few games last year. Not many "terrible" backs could do that Link to post Share on other sites
eaglezzz 2 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Bell was brought in to be that goal line back and showed nothing through out preseason/season probably more of an injury end of things. But also he just didn't seem to fit in the Eagles system. M. Vick is pretty much going to be the goal line back with his I might run I might pass who knows what the hell I will do type of play. Harrison has talent just has a coach that doesn't believe in him. He will be a valuable back up to McCoy. And with McCoy being banged up a little bit already they might trust Harrison with some more carries. It will be interesting but I think this is all about preserving McCoy to be able to get through the season. Link to post Share on other sites
Clifford 406 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Mike Bell becomes an instant pickup for the desperate. Harrison's value unchanged.I agree with both but don't start Bell this week if Hillis can't play.There are all of 1 backs I would start against Pitt. Link to post Share on other sites
Steel Town 0 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 PHi needs an inside physical runner, if McCoy gets hurt, he can carry the load if McCoy goes downCle: they don't like Harrison, and if Hillis goes down they will now go with BellBell up a bitHarrison WAY up...I wouldn't classify Harrison as an inside physical runner. That describes Bell more so than Harrison. To me, Harrison is more of a compliment to Hillis and Bell a better combo with McCoy. With this trade, but teams have like running backs. I think it may be a downgrade for both of them...from a fantasy perspective. Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 12,494 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Wow, the Browns continue to show me that they no nothing about football.this is such a lopsided trade its funnyI dont get the Harrison hate in ClevelandMangini never seemed to like him, no matter how well he did, analogous to Hillis with Josh McDaniels in Denver. Perception quite often counts more than reality. Link to post Share on other sites
yellowdog 221 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 PHi needs an inside physical runner, if McCoy gets hurt, Harrison is someone who can carry the load and the eagles would trust.For Cle, they didn't want Harrison , and if Hillis goes down now they will now go with BellBell up a bitHarrison WAY up...I think this might hurt McCoy and Hillis a bit too, most only if they are hurt, because now their teams have someone else they can throw out... they might also lose some carries to the new RBsSo why did they trade for Harrison? I don't see a bump for either one. Link to post Share on other sites
Clifford 406 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Mike Bell becomes an instant pickup for the desperate. Harrison's value unchanged.So, do they not believe that Hillis can stay healthy?He's started three games and been hurt for the past two weeks. Plus, from what I hear his running style is a lot like Juggernaut from the X-Men. That's not going to hold up. Link to post Share on other sites
Banger 5,529 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Harrison gets a BIG jump up in value.I don't see it. McCoy looks terrific so far. I think Harrison might get a few more touches than he was getting in Cleveland but unless McCoy gets hurt I don't see him having any value.He wasn't getting much playing time in Cleveland and although he won't get a ton of touches behind McCoy, it's still a ten times better situation for him. Look at it this way too, if he was starting in Philly versus starting in Cleveland, I think he's be a lot more productive from a fantasy standpoint in Philly.If McCoy goes down, he'll be money.I don't know, if Hillis went down when he was in Clev he would've been money. Currently, Hillis is 10 pts behind McCoy in scoring in my league so their stats are somewhat similar to date. The only value either have is if the starter goes down. To me, Harrison goes from RB55 to RB47 and Bell goes from RB60 to RB59. Link to post Share on other sites
TommyGilmore 1 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 This means that Hillis is more healthy than reported......and McCoy is less healthy than reported. Link to post Share on other sites
Patroclus 0 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Any thoughts on what this does to McCoy? I'm thinking no impact or at worst very minor. Link to post Share on other sites
jude 0 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 two backups traded. very exciting. Link to post Share on other sites
pantherclub 2,005 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 PHi needs an inside physical runner, if McCoy gets hurt, Harrison is someone who can carry the load and the eagles would trust.For Cle, they didn't want Harrison , and if Hillis goes down now they will now go with BellBell up a bitHarrison WAY up...I think this might hurt McCoy and Hillis a bit too, most only if they are hurt, because now their teams have someone else they can throw out... they might also lose some carries to the new RBsSo why did they trade for Harrison? I don't see a bump for either one.Harrison for bell is a straight steal for Philly. I would have to think that Harrison is also way cheaper then bell without looking it up.Harrisons style and catching ability will fit in nicely as a back up and if McCoy went down I can see him stepping in with just a little drop off. You couldnt say that about bell. Link to post Share on other sites
PizzaDeliveryGuy 26 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Wow, the Browns continue to show me that they no nothing about football.this is such a lopsided trade its funnyI dont get the Harrison hate in ClevelandHarrison is ungood. Link to post Share on other sites
plyka 0 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Harrison gets a BIG jump up in value.He gets a big downgrade in value actually. The Browns actually have a better Oline than the Eagles, and it's not really close in my book. Not to mention that Mccoy is 100% starter, Harrison will never take the job away without an injury. So Harrison basically turns into a handcuff, while in Cleveland he always had a shot at taking the job away from Hillis, who is kind of hurt by the way. Very bad for Harrison's value. Link to post Share on other sites
H.K. 0 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Somone break this down for me...- Jerome wasn't happy/in doghouseThats all i got...Harrison is 5'9" 205 and not the grinder that Cleveland wants, but Mike Bell at 6' 225 is the north/south type of guy who they seem to prefer. Conversely, Harrison and his pass catching ability is probably a better fit for the Eagles system than a guy like Bell. Seems like a win/win. Link to post Share on other sites
identikit 1,388 Posted October 13, 2010 Author Share Posted October 13, 2010 Hawks are celebrating. :screech: Link to post Share on other sites
plyka 0 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 all these people are reading this topic right now (BTW, get ready for a 3-4 page thread within the next hour or two): 91 Members: plyka, proninja, tikitime, Mr Two Cents, jasvic, ppierce, unckeyherb, talongrey, pantherclub, That Little Voice, yellowdog, jude, Patroclus, Ladsud, MadCat, CWB3, emge, the_sig, jwilk, ConstruxBoy, the 'boys, grif, smcindoe, WOW6616, wudaben, rangerforme, Utter Chaos, eaglezzz, Runnyb, Superdbs, TommyGilmore, Giants4Life, Banger, tooski, CrossEyed, Lash, IdiotSavant, The Tick, sweetness34, JaxBill, Steel Town, reprisal, Clifford, northwoods, cubbie5150, RBM, John 14:6, Beanie Baby, scrumptrulescent, Wally Cleaver, Soxwhat, murzman, BroncoFreak_2K3, Sweet Love, RUBISCO, B. Nugget, Catch-23, ScottyDog, jamil, Xue, PC Load Letter, yoadrian, Raleigh Engineers, daylight, Sir Psycho, "The Waterboy", Rounders, phillyfan72, Ghost Rider, Childress, Rylenol, T. Bagger, NoCheese, rjt, DevilDog919, sjslacker, MN Taco, Frank Black, mdlane, BlueBandit24, 3nOut, jlaw, RUSF18, jdgsatx, elbowrm, dehaven123, Kilroy1872, CiderHouse, Badnewz, Synergy, Tacos al Carboner Link to post Share on other sites
northwoods 2 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 I guess this means Hillis will be healthy enough to start this weekend... not that anyone would.... Link to post Share on other sites
pantherclub 2,005 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Wow, the Browns continue to show me that they no nothing about football.this is such a lopsided trade its funnyI dont get the Harrison hate in ClevelandHarrison is ungood.I dont understand this mentality. Harrison single handly saved manginis job last year. Link to post Share on other sites
reprisal 0 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 James Davis and Jerome Harrison with the biggest boost I think Link to post Share on other sites
wadegarrett 207 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Wow, the Browns continue to show me that they no nothing about football.this is such a lopsided trade its funnyI dont get the Harrison hate in ClevelandHarrison is ungood.I dont understand this mentality. Harrison single handly saved manginis job last year.He did? Link to post Share on other sites
CrossEyed 9 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 I guess this means Hillis will be healthy enough to start this weekend...not that anyone would....I'd start Hillis in ppr. I have a feeling Colt will be looking for his check down receiver a LOT. Link to post Share on other sites
belljr 10,782 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Harrison gets a BIG jump up in value.He gets a big downgrade in value actually. The Browns actually have a better Oline than the Eagles, and it's not really close in my book. Not to mention that Mccoy is 100% starter, Harrison will never take the job away without an injury. So Harrison basically turns into a handcuff, while in Cleveland he always had a shot at taking the job away from Hillis, who is kind of hurt by the way. Very bad for Harrison's value.Really? You think his value could have become worse? He couldn't get a one legged Hillis off the field in Cleveland.I'm not saying he gets a huge jump but I don't see how his value could actually go down from this. Link to post Share on other sites
eoMMan 5,663 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Harrison gets a BIG jump up in value.He gets a big downgrade in value actually. The Browns actually have a better Oline than the Eagles, and it's not really close in my book. Not to mention that Mccoy is 100% starter, Harrison will never take the job away without an injury. So Harrison basically turns into a handcuff, while in Cleveland he always had a shot at taking the job away from Hillis, who is kind of hurt by the way. Very bad for Harrison's value.Yes, the Browns Oline might currently be better but their offense is definitely worse overall compared to the Eagles. And with as good as Hillis has been playing, it would have taken a few big games from Harrison, imo, to take that job away. Link to post Share on other sites
Banger 5,529 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Harrison gets a BIG jump up in value.He gets a big downgrade in value actually. The Browns actually have a better Oline than the Eagles, and it's not really close in my book. Not to mention that Mccoy is 100% starter, Harrison will never take the job away without an injury. So Harrison basically turns into a handcuff, while in Cleveland he always had a shot at taking the job away from Hillis, who is kind of hurt by the way. Very bad for Harrison's value.Yes, the Browns Oline might currently be better but their offense is definitely worse overall compared to the Eagles. And with as good as Hillis has been playing, it would have taken a few big games from Harrison, imo, to take that job away.ya, he wasn't taking the job away...he had his shot in the first two weeks and Hillis took it and ran with it. Harrison's only shot would've been injury IMO. Link to post Share on other sites
lowman2 7 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 I think the winner in all of this is James Davis.... Link to post Share on other sites
Jason Wood 25 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Pretty much two teams (with friendly front offices) swapping disappointments in hopes of a new surrounding sparking something. Link to post Share on other sites
pantherclub 2,005 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Wow, the Browns continue to show me that they no nothing about football.this is such a lopsided trade its funnyI dont get the Harrison hate in ClevelandHarrison is ungood.I dont understand this mentality. Harrison single handly saved manginis job last year.He did?Eric M. was almost fired and I think without he late season win streak courtesy of Harrisons superman running he would be a man without a job right now. Link to post Share on other sites
zamboni 6,689 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 James Davis and Jerome Harrison with the biggest boost I thinkSeems like Davis is the only one with any meaningful uptick in value, but minor at that since he only has a role if Hillis is out. Link to post Share on other sites
PizzaDeliveryGuy 26 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Wow, the Browns continue to show me that they no nothing about football.this is such a lopsided trade its funnyI dont get the Harrison hate in ClevelandHarrison is ungood.I dont understand this mentality. Harrison single handly saved manginis job last year.The defense was who saved Mangini last year not the guy that averaged 1.8/3.8/3.8 in 3 of the 4 wins. Link to post Share on other sites
wadegarrett 207 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Wow, the Browns continue to show me that they no nothing about football.this is such a lopsided trade its funnyI dont get the Harrison hate in ClevelandHarrison is ungood.I dont understand this mentality. Harrison single handly saved manginis job last year.He did?Eric M. was almost fired and I think without he late season win streak courtesy of Harrisons superman running he would be a man without a job right now.He helped. It was far from single-handed. Link to post Share on other sites
PizzaDeliveryGuy 26 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Eric M. was almost fired and I think without he late season win streak courtesy of Harrisons superman running he would be a man without a job right now.Holy crap. Link to post Share on other sites
pantherclub 2,005 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 i agree that probably was a little hyperbole Link to post Share on other sites
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