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This is pretty much the exact same situation I'm in. My problem is I don't have a ton of depth at the position I'm potentially trading away. Fitzpatrick could either give me a championship team, or he could sink me. Heh, ironic that I was interested in this thread because I was considering benching Brady in favor of Fitz in another league, and now I'm looking at him as my likely new starter anyways after losing Romo.
The devil on one shoulder says "screw it, roll with Fitz, you've never won a championship without at least one dude on your team that you would have never imagined starting when you started the fantasy season"...The angel is saying "you're going to feel really dumb blowing your season on Ryan friggin' Fitzpatrick because you wouldn't trade away a guy that you can replace rather easily for a solid QB"This year was getting boring just plugging in the same lineup every week. Now we have fun.FWIW I'm thinking of leaning towards Fitz, only because I'm a gambling fool and because I'm getting too many texts talking smack about me starting him. The potential bragging rights winning with him are almost too good to pass up. There's no sound logic behind it, so I wouldn't advise anyone to follow my lead.(no it's not a big money league, but it's a big ego leagueHank Mardukas said:
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ThePittbully said:
Fitzpatrick has had 75% of of his fantasy points when trailing and 45% of his fantasy points when trailing big. Those stats do not really provide support to your claim that he's "keeping the bills in every game". Nice try though. The Bills are 0-6, and basically getting hammered every game, just like the Chiefs of two years ago. Like Thigpen, Fitzpatrick has come out of nowhere to put up good fantasy numbers which are way above his previous career numbers, and like Thigpen he will most likely disappear as well.
You mean the Tyler Thigpen that ended the year with a 76 passer rating? The one that had 12 TDs and 18 INTs? That guy?What's that guy got to do with a pure drop-back passer who's sporting a 102 rating and 11-4 TDs to INTs over his first four games as a first-choice starter?
Interesting, but two questions, because those stats (75% of FP when trailing) don't have any context behind them.You need to provide more info for that to have any meaning. - How often, as a whole, were the Bills trailing? Somewhere around 75%? Higher? Lower?- Why would we not think that the Bills won't continue to trail 75% of the time?Serious questions - not saying you're wrong or picking a fight. Good info here.ThePittbully said:Fitzpatrick has had 75% of of his fantasy points when trailing and 45% of his fantasy points when trailing big. Those stats do not really provide support to your claim that he's "keeping the bills in every game". Nice try though. The Bills are 0-6, and basically getting hammered every game, just like the Chiefs of two years ago. Like Thigpen, Fitzpatrick has come out of nowhere to put up good fantasy numbers which are way above his previous career numbers, and like Thigpen he will most likely disappear as well.
Thank you, Thigpen ran strictly out of the spread and while his fantasy numbers were great his real life statistics were not. As for Fitz doing damage while buffalo is trailing, notice I didn't say they were winning games just staying in them. The jets handled them but every other game was close. The pats game was score for score the entire way, yes they were trailing but never more than a TD. They were winning in the first half against the Ravens, then let them take the lead by ten until Fitz brought them back with two scoring drives in the 4th. And as I said if not for the fumble they may have won
Incorrect. Both Max Hall (BYU) and Tim Hiller (Western Michigan) both drafted just in Bradford's class outscored Sam (38 & 37 respectively to Bradford's very nice 36) at the QB position on the Wonderlic heading into the last NFL Draft.I do not know offhand what Fitz scored on his Wonderlic the year he was selected.
What's your record? How have those guys done for you? I'd cut either in any league I play in. McNabb first, but Jay's a mess and I'm a Bears man. Adios amigo(s).Roll the dice; you're gonna keep one of them, man. I saw some delicious grafitti on a bathroom wall at a bar I frequented back in college that's always stuck with me. It's an excellent quote as it pertains to fantasy football: "You gotta break an egg to make an omelette."
You're right, Thigpen did it for 10 games, while Fitzpatrick has only done it for 4 games. Entirely different. Carry on.
Sorry to use numbers up there. The little word summary is that Thigpen didn't do it at all.
Wow that's quite a disparity between brothers. Maybe it's just me but Eli *looks* dumb but apparently I'm way off base. Not that Peyton looks smart or anything they're both kind of gomers.
I had no idea that Eli was 11 better than Peyton, but now the cool thing is that Eli shoudl say "Mine goes to 11" Spinal-Tap style at family gatherings to rub it in to Peyton that he's smarter than him.
I think that he's very much keeping the Bills in games. It's pretty important to differentiate between him putting up points while losing and putting up points while losing big. The Buffalo defense is so historically bad that the Bills are always in danger of being behind. And saying stuff like "when trailing" doesn't really mean anything because it would include situations like the Bills being down 3-0 and Fitzpatrick driving down the field and scoring a TD to take the lead. Under your stats, that doesn't count for Fitzpatrick, despite him not only keeping them in the game at that point, but delivering the lead.So I went and broke down his stats acquired while the Bills were down 7 or less and his points acquired while they were down by more than 7 points. I think any logical person would agree that being within one TD would qualify a team as being in a game.ThePittbully said:Fitzpatrick has had 75% of of his fantasy points when trailing and 45% of his fantasy points when trailing big. Those stats do not really provide support to your claim that he's "keeping the bills in every game". Nice try though. The Bills are 0-6, and basically getting hammered every game, just like the Chiefs of two years ago. Like Thigpen, Fitzpatrick has come out of nowhere to put up good fantasy numbers which are way above his previous career numbers, and like Thigpen he will most likely disappear as well.
I fear the same: Why not test Brohm and play for pick 1.01 when you're 0-10?
Because Fitzpatrick is currently the #2 rated QB in the league right now and looks every bit the part of a franchise QB. Why not see if he can keep it up and find out if he's a legit franchise type QB? If he is, then they don't need to draft a QB at the top of the first round, they can focus on their defense or OT.
Also, because going for the #1 pick may be what fans and armchair GMs want to see, but coaches want to keep their jobs and teams want to sell tickets and other merchandise. If Fitz keeps playing at a high level why in the world would you bench him to put in an unproven player who has already been cut by the team that drafted him? I think the league might take an interest at that point because that would be very close to throwing games. Oh, and in a lot of drafts no one wants the #1 pick because of the money involved. We'll probably have a rookie salary cap in place, but that's far from assured at this point. Plus, I don't know how this draft grades out, but it sounds like there are going to be multiple first round QBs and probably some disagreement over who is best.
still: it's the Bills... sorry!
touchestill: it's the Bills... sorry!
F it as well for me.....I dropped Cutler and picked up Fitzpatrick in one league. Picked him up in another league and dropped Alex Smith.....that's a no brainer.
Because Fitzpatrick has about 0.0% responsibility for 0-6?
If NE keeps up their 3rd most FF points to QB's...Week 16 = Championship
Yep... but by far, TEN has the easiest schedule after their bye week:If NE keeps up their 3rd most FF points to QB's...Week 16 = Championship
Yeah as Romo owner, I am looking at QBBC, with the likes of Fitzpatrick, Vince Young, Sanchez, Henne, Cutler (he was dropped in my leagues)wk 8: Fitzpatrick vs KC, Kitna vs Jac, Cassel vs Buf, Stafford vs Waswk 9: Cutler @ Buf, Stafford @ Jets, Sanchez vs Detwk 10: Stafford @ Buf, Sanchez @ Clewk 11: Sanchez vs Hou, Young vs Waswk 12: Young @ Hou, Stafford vs NEwk 13: Young vs Jac, Henne vs Cle, Cutler @ Detwk 14: Cutler vs NE, Henne @ NYJ, Fitzpatrick vs Clewk 15: Young vs Hou, Henne vs Buf, Kitna vs Waswk 16: Fitzpatrick vs NE, Cutler vs NYJ, Henne vs Det
I may actually trade away Brady (getting some additional pluses) for Fitzpatrick, and would go with Fitz and Kitna for the duration.
Yea I dont know where I got the Bradford part of that then, I knew Fitz killed it though. Pretty nice company on that list other than Alex Smith and Matt Stafford who we haven't really seen enough of yet.
amen . . .
gonna piece the romo void with young and fitz..that young schedule is great,Yep... but by far, TEN has the easiest schedule after their bye week:If NE keeps up their 3rd most FF points to QB's...Week 16 = Championship
10: @Mia (18th)
11: Was (5th)
12: @Hou (1st)
13: Jac (2nd)
14: Ind (24th)
15: Hou (1st)
16: @KC (15th)
and these teams have the next easiest schedule in that same span (week 10-16), along with some of those opp
NYG: Jac, WAS
JAC: Hou, Was
Chi: Det, NE, NYJ (cutler might want to keep him)
CLE: JAC, BUF
PIT: NE, BUF, NYJ
HOU: JAC, NYJ, DEN
NYJ: CLE, HOU, NE
Sorry for the thread necromancy. The search function on this site is just awful, but I didn't feel like this trade necessitated a new thread.
