Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums
Welcome to Our Forums. Once you've registered and logged in, you're primed to talk football, among other topics, with the sharpest and most experienced fantasy players on the internet.
HC Bill Belichick, (6 Viewers)
- Thread starter wiscstlatlmia
- Start date
Mr. Irrelevant
IBL Representative
Sounds like I need to hurry up and lay down some SB prop bets on all the "over" categories for Dion Lewis.
Agreed. Give Belicheck, Manning, Rogers or Brees and he's winning at the same clip. However, it's possible he clashes with each one. Him and Brady are always on the same page.
"I would say in general on our team we have a sign on our wall that says, 'Doing the right thing for the team when it might not be the right thing for you.'
Last edited by a moderator:
Ruffrodys05
IBL Representative
Anarchy99
Footballguy
At the time, I believe I was going for facets but left out the t. Phases works too.
Horses Mouth
Footballguy
Have you all read "The Education of a Coach" about BB? Fascinating, even as a Dolphins fan!
Anarchy99
Footballguy
One of my biggest disappointments was the last time Bon Jovi played in Foxboro and one of my friends got comped VIP tickets to the show but I couldn't go.
The seats ended up being third row center and my seat would have been next to BB. After the show, my friend and his VIP buddies got to hang out with BB and JBJ.
I would have sacrificed a child or two to be in on that. Bill would be on my short list of people living or dead you wanted to have dinner with.
The seats ended up being third row center and my seat would have been next to BB. After the show, my friend and his VIP buddies got to hang out with BB and JBJ.
I would have sacrificed a child or two to be in on that. Bill would be on my short list of people living or dead you wanted to have dinner with.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
For ha-ha's, I looked up BB on LinkedIn, and there is a page. I'm guessing it is not the real hoodie, call it a hunch. Here is the description for his time as Head Coach of the New England Patriots.
Four time Super Bowl Champion
Two Time AFC Champion
In case you're wondering, I made Tom Brady who he is. That little sh.t would be nowhere without me.
Four time Super Bowl Champion
Two Time AFC Champion
In case you're wondering, I made Tom Brady who he is. That little sh.t would be nowhere without me.
Hu-Tang Clan
Footballguy
That's impressive that he only had to win the AFC twice to win 4 rings. Those two years that they got a bye right to the SB were awesome!
Anarchy99
Footballguy
Anarchy99
Footballguy
Since becoming a defense coordinator with the Giants in 1986, here are some mind boggling stats surrounding his royal hoodie . . .
This will make BB's 10th Super Bowl appearance as a head coach, assistant coach, or defensive coordinator. Two with NYG (86 and 90) and 8 with NE (96, 01, 03, 04, 07, 11, 14, and 16).
BB coached defenses (as HC or DC) have now won 4 fewest points allowed titles, accomplished with 3 different teams (NE 03 and 16, CLE 94, NYG 90).
That year in CLE in 1994, the Browns had a +136 point differential. In 19 seasons since then, the Browns have only had a positive differential twice (+20 and +24).
New England just put up their 11th consecutive season with a scoring differential of +100 points or more. That broke the NFL record of 10 straight seasons held by the Niners from 1989 - 1998. I didn't look at defunct franchises, but the only other streaks of 5 or more belonged to CLE (7 years in the 40s and 50s) and OAK (6 years in the 70s). BAL, BUF, CIN, NOS, and TEN have a max of 2 seasons in a row with a +100 scoring differential in their history. ARI, ATL, CAR, DET, HOU, JAX, NYJ, and TBB have never been able to put together back to back such seasons since their inception.
In 32 seasons as a HC, AC, or DC, BB's teams have had a +100 point scoring advantage in a season a staggering 19 times (14 with NE, 3 with NYG, 1 with NYJ, 1 with CLE) . NE in Brady's year fell 1 point short and the Giants had a season at +96 points. In 32 years, BB's teams have averaged +99.3 in point differential. That is FILTHY and absolutely INSANE!
This will make BB's 10th Super Bowl appearance as a head coach, assistant coach, or defensive coordinator. Two with NYG (86 and 90) and 8 with NE (96, 01, 03, 04, 07, 11, 14, and 16).
BB coached defenses (as HC or DC) have now won 4 fewest points allowed titles, accomplished with 3 different teams (NE 03 and 16, CLE 94, NYG 90).
That year in CLE in 1994, the Browns had a +136 point differential. In 19 seasons since then, the Browns have only had a positive differential twice (+20 and +24).
New England just put up their 11th consecutive season with a scoring differential of +100 points or more. That broke the NFL record of 10 straight seasons held by the Niners from 1989 - 1998. I didn't look at defunct franchises, but the only other streaks of 5 or more belonged to CLE (7 years in the 40s and 50s) and OAK (6 years in the 70s). BAL, BUF, CIN, NOS, and TEN have a max of 2 seasons in a row with a +100 scoring differential in their history. ARI, ATL, CAR, DET, HOU, JAX, NYJ, and TBB have never been able to put together back to back such seasons since their inception.
In 32 seasons as a HC, AC, or DC, BB's teams have had a +100 point scoring advantage in a season a staggering 19 times (14 with NE, 3 with NYG, 1 with NYJ, 1 with CLE) . NE in Brady's year fell 1 point short and the Giants had a season at +96 points. In 32 years, BB's teams have averaged +99.3 in point differential. That is FILTHY and absolutely INSANE!
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Faust
MVP
Bill Belichick on Malcolm Butler benching: 'The final decision is what I said it was'
Bill Belichick’s decision to bench Malcolm Butler cost the Patriots another Super Bowl title
Buckley: Bill Belichick owes fans better answers on Malcolm Butler benching
Former, current Patriots blast Bill Belichick over Malcolm Butler decision
Bill Belichick’s decision to bench Malcolm Butler cost the Patriots another Super Bowl title
Buckley: Bill Belichick owes fans better answers on Malcolm Butler benching
Former, current Patriots blast Bill Belichick over Malcolm Butler decision
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
G
Guest
Guest
Glad BB is doing what he always does.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
JohnnyU
Footballguy
msudaisy26
Footballguy
This is so puzzling. Why does Belicheck care who these guys use as a trainer if they are producing and it obvious looks like it is working? Is he is losing it? Is he trying to force his way out? Is he mad at Kraft? I really don't know what to think.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Rhythmdoctor
Footballguy
I think because they were not using team trainers/staff and that undermined their own staff’s credibility.
G
Guest
Guest
The relationship between Rob Gronkowski and Bill Belichick does not appear to be all that strong these days, and it seems like that has everything to do with the star tight end choosing to follow Tom Brady’s training methods over the team’s.
Karen Guregian of the Boston Herald reported over the weekend that Belichick chastised Gronkowski in front of his teammates at one point for working with Alex Guerrero and subscribing to the so-called TB12 method. Patriots reporter Tom E. Curran shed some more light on the exchange, and he was told that Belichick was attributing Gronk’s slow start in training camp to the fact that he was training at the TB12 Sports Therapy Center.
Source told me that, During camp, when Gronk was performing poorly, he was called out in front of team for being ineffective. Change in regimen was derisively referred to as the reason. This was big part of Gronk's irritation that lasted all year. https://t.co/xl9YzZqmf2
— Tom E. Curran (@tomecurran) April 9, 2018
Karen Guregian of the Boston Herald reported over the weekend that Belichick chastised Gronkowski in front of his teammates at one point for working with Alex Guerrero and subscribing to the so-called TB12 method. Patriots reporter Tom E. Curran shed some more light on the exchange, and he was told that Belichick was attributing Gronk’s slow start in training camp to the fact that he was training at the TB12 Sports Therapy Center.
Source told me that, During camp, when Gronk was performing poorly, he was called out in front of team for being ineffective. Change in regimen was derisively referred to as the reason. This was big part of Gronk's irritation that lasted all year. https://t.co/xl9YzZqmf2
— Tom E. Curran (@tomecurran) April 9, 2018
Last edited:
Anarchy99
Footballguy
What I find odd is not the reporting of the squabbling and in-breading that appears to be going on currently . . . it's the fact that NE hid this type of stuff from everyone for 15+ years. I do not for a second think there is much different about the environment in 2018 than the environment in 2012 . . . or 2006 . . . or 2001. That's why I am not really buying into the sudden fall of the House of Usher. I don't really think all that much has changed. But now reporters have figured out they can get more clicks or retweets by bringing this stuff up.
G
Guest
Guest
All the haters should be happy. Wickersham has another NE hit piece, that will make 4 since 2015, coming according to WEEI K&C show. Guess they are taking such a bath with Geenberg's new show they have to go back to what they know best.
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
Anarchy99
Footballguy
What I love about Monday morning quarterbacking is what if things were different. Say Butler played and got torched. Then the narrative would be why didn't NE play someone else when the team knew Butler was sick, would have to cover a bigger / stronger receiver, and playing him cost them the SB.
If Brady didn't get strip sacked, there's a decent chance that the only people talking about Butler not playing would be his mother and his agent.
If Brady didn't get strip sacked, there's a decent chance that the only people talking about Butler not playing would be his mother and his agent.
JetMaxx
Footballguy
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
NE_REVIVAL
Footballguy
It is new, but Anarchys point may have been more that they have always had squabbles but they have been under reported. I think what is a little different about this one includes the following. TB and BB have been together 18 yrs now so like any relationship there is bound to conflict\friction. TB believes strongly in AG and at this point in his career he is going to do what he feels is best for him (as well he should, hes earned the right). Gronk had a really good inj free yr last yr so maybe there is something to pliability over lifting weights. BB has been coaching quite successfully for more than 40 yrs and he has earned the right to do things the way he wants. Thats my 2 cents......
JetMaxx
Footballguy
Of course there are always squabbles but I think it's dielusional and naive to dismissively attribute this new dysfunction to overzealous reporting
Anarchy99
Footballguy
At the time Brady lost the ball at the NE 33 yard line, NE had a 35% chance to win with 2:21 to go down by 5 points.
The 4 previous possessions for NE (not counting the last few seconds before halftime), the Patriots drives went as follows:
- 75 yards for a TD
- 75 yards for a TD
- 75 yards for a TD
- 90 yards for a TD
The Patriots had zero punts the entire game. Was there something special about the Eagles defense that game that would suggest they would get a stop when NE had 4 downs to get a first down the entire drive? The Patriots had just gone 315 yards for 4 TD the last 4 times they had the football.
I don't have the exact numbers, but I believe NE's chances to win would have increased by roughly 10% with each first down they made on that drive.
By no means am I just giving the Patriots a win if Brady didn't fumble, but I don't think saying they had a "decent chance" to get a game winning TD is all that crazy a statement. I get that we will never know, as that's not what happened. I don't know what a "decent chance" equates to, but I would think that 50/50 isn't too far off.
The overall point with Butler, though, was if NE scored that drive and won the game, the Butler story would have fallen by the way side a long time ago.
