Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
Apparently Marshall Faulk has an opinion on the question.
guess it's better than blaming yourself.maybe he should sue for 100mstay classy, rams
Last edited by a moderator:
Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums
Welcome to Our Forums. Once you've registered and logged in, you're primed to talk football, among other topics, with the sharpest and most experienced fantasy players on the internet.
HC Bill Belichick, (2 Viewers)
- Thread starter wiscstlatlmia
- Start date
guess it's better than blaming yourself.maybe he should sue for 100mstay classy, rams
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
stay classy? the pats are punished cheaters. Id be pissed too if they took a superbowl from me through cheating means.Apparently Marshall Faulk has an opinion on the question.
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
stay classy? the pats are punished cheaters. Id be pissed too if they took a superbowl from me through cheating means.Apparently Marshall Faulk has an opinion on the question.
maybe he should sue for 100m
stay classy, rams
Wadsworth
Footballguy
They cheated during the regular season, what makes you think they would not cheat in the Super Bowl?stay classy? the pats are punished cheaters. Id be pissed too if they took a superbowl from me through cheating means.Apparently Marshall Faulk has an opinion on the question.
maybe he should sue for 100m
stay classy, rams
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
1-8 SL 8 
36) T.Brady pass to D.Patten for 8 yards, TOUCHDOWN. Pass 8, Run 0
Play Challenged by Review Assistant and Upheld.
A.Vinatieri extra point is GOOD, Center-L.Paxton, Holder-K.Walter.
SL 3 NE 14, 5 plays, 40 yards, 0:49 drive, 14:29 elapsed
A.Vinatieri kicks 65 yards from NE 30 to SL 5. M.Faulk ran ob at SL 6 for 1 yard.
36) T.Brady pass to D.Patten for 8 yards, TOUCHDOWN. Pass 8, Run 0Play Challenged by Review Assistant and Upheld.
A.Vinatieri extra point is GOOD, Center-L.Paxton, Holder-K.Walter.
SL 3 NE 14, 5 plays, 40 yards, 0:49 drive, 14:29 elapsed
A.Vinatieri kicks 65 yards from NE 30 to SL 5. M.Faulk ran ob at SL 6 for 1 yard.
total trips inside the patriots' 32 = 2 (both touchdowns)one of those td's being from outside the redzone
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Faulk and the Rams should be most pissed about the awful no-call on Brady's intentional grounding with 29 seconds left. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=GVphiMBbGaM#t=177sIf intentional grounding is called there like it should have been (he was still inside the tackle box, was being pressured and there wasn't a receiver within 10 yards of the ball), the Patriots lose 10 yards, time off the clock and are then backed up their own 31 with less than 20 seconds left. I know some Rams fans who were infuriated by that non-call, especially since the next play was the pass to Troy Brown that all but put them in field goal range.
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
are you going to post the rest of the non-calls?
Last edited by a moderator:
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Like the non-call on the hit to Warner's head that would have negated the Ty Law pick 6?
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
I guess you know who the big dog in the nfl is by who they're talking about during superbowl week.
whole lotta gossip queens again this year --- business as usual.we'll see you guys again next year -- looking fwd to the season.
SSOG
Moderator
Not if you define "anything of significance" as "anything the Patriots lost". He's got two SB appearances, 3 AFCCG appearances, and the first 16-0 team in history. We can argue about whether those are as significant as a SB championship, but you can't argue they aren't significant.
Wadsworth
Footballguy
Coaches for Tony Dungy? Where did you dig that up?I guess you know who the big dog in the nfl is by who they're talking about during superbowl week.
whole lotta gossip queens
we'll see you guys again next year -- looking fwd to the season.
ichris
Footballguy
I always look forward to reading your insightful posts during the football season. So the Patriots have done well, they just didn't have the "edge" they needed to win another Super Bowl?Full disclosure: I haven't said anything nice about the Patriots since the 2001 Super Bowl.
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
Location:Rams fan in Seattle just noticed that
patriots have left a long trail of tears and broken dreams.
Last edited by a moderator:
Wadsworth
Footballguy
...and destroyed video tape.Location:Rams fan in Seattle just noticed that
patriots have left a long rail of tears and broken dreams.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
It's Lombardi or Walsh. But I guess in times like these you just defer to the guy with his name on the trophy.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
I believe Gibbs is still the only coach to win a Super Bowl with three different starting QBs, yes? Has to put him in the conversation at least, depending on how important you think QB play is.
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
willie mcginest
that's why I love being a pats fan --- I can root for these guys while rams fans get the embarrassment of marshall faulk.maybe if those crying #####es had manned up instead of turtling up the pats wouldn't have been able to push them down and take their lunch money.
SSOG
Moderator
Fantasy owners will always tell you that winning championships is luck, that the best owners are those guys that consistently make the playoffs and field competitive teams. I'd say the same is true in the NFL. A team has to get a lot of lucky bounces to win a championship- the best franchises are those that are consistently in the hunt. And nobody has been more consistently in the hunt than Belichick and the Patriots, who have had double digit wins every year since 2006.
Wadsworth
Footballguy
that's why I love being a pats fan --- I can root for these guys while rams fans get the embarrassment of marshall faulk.maybe if those crying #####es had manned up instead of turtling up the pats wouldn't have been able to push them down and take their lunch money.
Yea, those classless Rams are terrible.
guess it's better than blaming yourself.
maybe he should sue for 100m
stay classy, rams
Nobody confuses Belichick with class. He is still under .500 without Brady at QB.
that's why I love being a pats fan --- I can root for these guys while rams fans get the embarrassment of marshall faulk.maybe if those crying #####es had manned up instead of turtling up the pats wouldn't have been able to push them down and take their lunch money.Yea, those classless Rams are terrible.
guess it's better than blaming yourself.
maybe he should sue for 100m
stay classy, rams
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
I didn't realize you were everybody's spokesman --- when was that election, or is it an appointed position?his record with the incomparable matt cassel at qb isn't bad.I think that alone should be hof credentials.
Shanahanigans
Footballguy
at Kool-Aid Larry getting so defensive. This just shows that the fact that the Pats super bowl wins are at the very least somewhat tarnished really bugs him. If it was a non-issue, he wouldn't get so agitated.
Shanahanigans
Footballguy
that's why I love being a pats fan --- I can root for these guys while rams fans get the embarrassment of marshall faulk.maybe if those crying #####es had manned up instead of turtling up the pats wouldn't have been able to push them down and take their lunch money.Yea, those classless Rams are terrible.
guess it's better than blaming yourself.
maybe he should sue for 100m
stay classy, rams
The Ref
Footballguy
Are you sure? The last time we started fact checking your posts it didn't work out so hot for you.
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
I'll talk pats in any thread -- even the troll threads are cool, which is most of them on this board.when did posting = agitation?unlike many posters in here, I try to stick to posting about things that I actually know something about --- I don't need to have an opinion on everything.if there's a pats thread in here chances are I'll be posting in it.
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
if you want actual football insight I'd suggest the idp forum --- asking for facts in the troll forum ruins the illusion.what happened to the shark pool?
Who is WE? Since you are The Ref I will do the work for you. Here you are:Cleveland Record
1991 6-10
1992 7-9
1993 7-9
1994 11-5
1995 5-11
Total 36-44
New England Record w/out Brady starting
2000 5-11
2001 0-2
2008 10-5
Total 15-18
Your Grand Total = 51 - 62
Please provide proof where it didn't work out so hot for me...
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
so, he took over a 3-13 team in cleveland and a few years later had them at 11-5 with a playoff win, then years later, with an entirely different roster, won 11 games with matt cassel at qb?DAMN that guy sux!!!
Last edited by a moderator:
Sorry if do not agree, but I believe the Patriot's success is a lot more Brady than Belichick.so, he took over a 3-13 team in cleveland and a few years later had them at 11-5 with a playoff win, then years later, with an entirely different roster, won 11 games with matt cassel at qb?DAMN that guy sux!!!
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
you can believe in peter pan if you want -- I'm not the thought police.they won 11 games in '08, followed by 10 games in '09, but it's all brady.Sorry if do not agree, but I believe the Patriot's success is a lot more Brady than Belichick.so, he took over a 3-13 team in cleveland and a few years later had them at 11-5 with a playoff win, then years later, with an entirely different roster, won 11 games with matt cassel at qb?DAMN that guy sux!!!
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
btw, I noticed that after the pats broke their spirits in 2001, the raiders and rams quickly went into the tank and became 2 of the laughingstock franchises over the last decade, while the pats paced the nfl in wins.do you think it's possible belichick feeds on life forces, somehow, and how could we get that reported by bspn?
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
Just to be clear- you're talking about the Raiders team that went to the Super Bowl in 2002-2003, right?The amazing thing about Patriots fans is that you're not an anomaly. Most of them are just like you.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Holmgren won the Super Bowl with the Packers and then got robbed in the Super Bowl with the Seahawks in what was a terribly officiated game.
Franknbeans
Footballguy
since he's a known cheater, it automatically eliminates him from the conversation
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
sorry if my post was confusing -- I'm talking about the raiders team that has won 49 games in the last 10 seasons, for less than a 5 win average.that's an awful lot of calls going against them, but maybe it was sabotage.
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
I don't remember hearing that about holmgren, but I don't know how he'd get into a convo about the great bill belichick in the first place.
ichris
Footballguy
Hey now, the Rams have never been a laughingstock franchise in my opinion.
The team just dealt with a very unfortunate series of those unlucky bounces SSOG was mentioning in his post.Coach Fisher will lead the Rams back to glory though, count on it! 
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
Maybe next time don't use the word "quickly." Or "broke their spirits," I guess, since broken spirits generally don't turn around and go 11-5 including a win over their spirit-breakers on their way to the Super Bowl.Otherwise, keep on truckin'. You are truly the embodiment of what it is to be a Patriots fan.'Kool-Aid Larry said:
Last edited by a moderator:
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
sometimes that black magic (no offense) takes a year to really set in, but that's why it's an art and not a science.
The Ref
Footballguy
Yeah it was way back before we were football fans..... way way back in week one....... of 2011......
Ahem.....Please provide proof where it didn't work out so hot for me...
Donnybrook
Footballguy
Pretty favorable schedule in '08. http://www.ihavenet....f-schedule.html Brady could have lead the Patriots to his second undefeated season with that schedule.you can believe in peter pan if you want -- I'm not the thought police.they won 11 games in '08, followed by 10 games in '09, but it's all brady.Sorry if do not agree, but I believe the Patriot's success is a lot more Brady than Belichick.so, he took over a 3-13 team in cleveland and a few years later had them at 11-5 with a playoff win, then years later, with an entirely different roster, won 11 games with matt cassel at qb?
DAMN that guy sux!!!
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
which would be belichick's 2nd 16-0 season?not bad........Pretty favorable schedule in '08. http://www.ihavenet....f-schedule.html Brady could have lead the Patriots to his second undefeated season with that schedule.you can believe in peter pan if you want -- I'm not the thought police.they won 11 games in '08, followed by 10 games in '09, but it's all brady.Sorry if do not agree, but I believe the Patriot's success is a lot more Brady than Belichick.so, he took over a 3-13 team in cleveland and a few years later had them at 11-5 with a playoff win, then years later, with an entirely different roster, won 11 games with matt cassel at qb?
DAMN that guy sux!!!
PatsFanCT
Footballguy
Seriously. Haters have been rehashing the same ignorant comments for years. I can't tell you how many times we read "The Patriots haven't won a thing since spygate". WTF does that even mean? Neither have 28 other NFL teams. However, the Pats were two plays away from winning two more Super Bowls.The same people who say that also say "The Patriots shouldn't even have won that AFCC game last year because the Ravens receiver dropped a sure TD in the end zone". Kind of contradicting statements, huh? Oh, and the receiver didn't "drop" the ball. It was knocked away by Moore, who just happened to do his job better than the receiver.I could go on, but what's the point?
Donnybrook
Footballguy
My mistake I though you were implying that the 11 wins in '08 was evidence of Belichick's great coaching without Brady. It is pretty clear that the easy schedule benifited all the AFC east teams in '08. Tony Sparano coached the Dolphins to 11 wins. Dolphins were 1-15 the year prior.which would be belichick's 2nd 16-0 season?not bad........Pretty favorable schedule in '08. http://www.ihavenet....f-schedule.html Brady could have lead the Patriots to his second undefeated season with that schedule.you can believe in peter pan if you want -- I'm not the thought police.they won 11 games in '08, followed by 10 games in '09, but it's all brady.Sorry if do not agree, but I believe the Patriot's success is a lot more Brady than Belichick.so, he took over a 3-13 team in cleveland and a few years later had them at 11-5 with a playoff win, then years later, with an entirely different roster, won 11 games with matt cassel at qb?
DAMN that guy sux!!!
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
I guess no other team in the league can either, seeing as how pats probably have more wins than any of them the last 5 yrs.
PatsFanCT
Footballguy
Of course there never was any proof of cheating, but don't let the facts get in the way of a good hate. The commissioner even said that himself.Ya ever wonder how Belichick can record and break down signals while coaching on the sidelines? I guess you think in the 12 minute halftime break, Belichick spent the entire time looking at, and deciphering 30 minutes of tape, and then made adjustments to win the game.If that's what you think, then there's no doubt he's the greatest coach to ever live, in any sport.And for those who think the Pats cheated against the Rams in 2001, first of all, I was at the first game they played in week 11 or 12 that year. The rams won by 7, but late in the game, Antwain Smith fumbled at the goal line on his way to tying it up. It's not unbelievable that they went on to beat them in the Super Bowl by 3. Pats were favored by 14 against the Giants in 2007 and lost by 3. Second, in 2001, videotaping from the sidelines was not illegal, and every team recorded their games, just like they all still do.Jumping out of this fishing pond now. Enjoy your ignorance though.'weebs said:
