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2 hours ago, matttyl said:

I never had to even enter a .edu address.  I just put in the first and last name, and DOB of my cousin (and the school she's in).  It then does a check of sorts, and a green check mark appears with a "hut hut" message to select the plan I'd like.  I know I can do VPN stuff, but this seems a bit more legal to me. 

BACKTOSCHOOL code works again this year making it only $80

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12 minutes ago, Moe. said:

I don't want to speak for him but he literally just said he doesn't have a cable TV subscription. We all have to pay someone for internet, I assume lots of ISPs require contracts. I am lucky that I can get Google Fiber and don't have to worry about that.

Xfinity offers something that to my understanding is essentially just like these other streaming services. He doesn't have a streaming device for one of his TVs so he uses their wireless streaming device, which doesn't seem to be working. If he had a roku/apple tv/whatever plugged into that TV he could send that thing back to Xfinity and nothing would change as far as what he pays them.The streaming services are all owned by giant media companies and google anyhow - nobody here is sticking it to the man. 

He literally just said $100 a month for two years.  That's a contract with Comcast, the giant pig of the cable companies.

11 minutes ago, Moe. said:

so if Hulu Live TV is being buggy do I have to take that to the Disney thread?

Of course not, that's a OTT.  If you're trying to say there is no difference then you are saying there isn't such a thing.  That's a weird argument because clearly there is such a thing:

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22 minutes ago, Moe. said:

I don't want to speak for him but he literally just said he doesn't have a cable TV subscription. We all have to pay someone for internet, I assume lots of ISPs require contracts. I am lucky that I can get Google Fiber and don't have to worry about that.

Xfinity offers something that to my understanding is essentially just like these other streaming services. He doesn't have a streaming device for one of his TVs so he uses their wireless streaming device, which doesn't seem to be working. If he had a roku/apple tv/whatever plugged into that TV he could send that thing back to Xfinity and nothing would change as far as what he pays them.The streaming services are all owned by giant media companies and google anyhow - nobody here is sticking it to the man. 

The bold assumption is wrong too.  Even Comcast, the giant pig of the cable tv industry, doesn't require a contract for internet only.

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35 minutes ago, tonydead said:

Using their cable box isn't the same as using their streaming service.  You are just using their streaming service, that comes along with your contract, because your cable box isn't working.

At this point, I'm really not sure what you want from me or the point you're trying to make.  This is their version of a "Roku" box they are providing to me for $10 a month.  It's a wireless box that streams their service...call it whatever you want I guess?  All I know is the streaming app I use on the Roku seems to be the same app that's installed on this box they provided me only it opens by default and I can use channel numbers on their remote.  There is obviously something different on their backend because it streams fine through roku, but not through the box they provided me but I don't know what that difference is...if I had to guess it's the way they are separating the traffic, but that's only a guess.

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42 minutes ago, tonydead said:

He's under a TWO year contract, that comes with a termination fee and zero leverage

No, he's not....it's a price guarantee for two years...after that they can start their rate hike shtick.  I could walk from that locked in price tomorrow if I wanted to.  That probably wasn't clear in my brief mention above.

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44 minutes ago, tonydead said:

If your X1 system isn't working you should be posting in the Comcast thread, not the Cut the Cable thread (I don't really care, just saying).

And to be clear, since I found out about X1 in this thread, I came back to this thread to ask those who had told me about it if they were having an issue also.  I was told it was "national" so I wanted to see if they were experiencing the same problem.  You seem pretty worked up in this thread for whatever reason.  I didn't even now there was a Comcast thread :lol: 

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18 hours ago, CletiusMaximus said:

I'm almost certain it won't include Hulu live.  I pay something like $40/mo for Hulu live w/no ads.  

I would think you are right, but $12.99 for that package and adding $40 for live still beats my DTVN pricing.

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43 minutes ago, The Commish said:

No, he's not....it's a price guarantee for two years...after that they can start their rate hike shtick.  I could walk from that locked in price tomorrow if I wanted to.  That probably wasn't clear in my brief mention above.

I'm not aware of Comcast ever giving price guarantees without a contract.  Well, of course it wouldn't be a guarantee without a contract, and they supposedly just provided you in writing this price guarantee with no strings attached?  What's their motivation for doing that?  I don't think you have what you think you have.  But, that's ok, just trying to let you know.

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1 hour ago, B Maverick said:

I would think you are right, but $12.99 for that package and adding $40 for live still beats my DTVN pricing.

I agree, and would be interested myself since I subscribe to ESPN+, but I've not seen anything that indicates the bundle offer has an option to include Hulu Live.

 

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Update: Switched from DTVN about a month ago when we moved into a new home.  Skeptical at first as long time Time Warner Cable customers, but we went with Spectrum TV streaming.  Service has been great. The only annoyance is when you switch channels there is a one second pause/pixelated screen. We are running off AppleTV 4k boxes and one spectrum box (for DVR). Have about 250 channels including HBO and Showtime and local channels. No contract disputes yet so we haven't lost any channels. Total cost is $120 which includes phone and 400gb internet service. DTVN had raised total cost to over $165.  Unlimited streams, stream from anywhere. Just can't watch DVR outside of home, which is fine because we use "Channels" to dvr OTA channels and can access from anywhere. All network connections internally are wifi.

 

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1 hour ago, tonydead said:

I'm not aware of Comcast ever giving price guarantees without a contract.  Well, of course it wouldn't be a guarantee without a contract, and they supposedly just provided you in writing this price guarantee with no strings attached?  What's their motivation for doing that?  I don't think you have what you think you have.  But, that's ok, just trying to let you know.

You can call them and argue with them I guess?   Seems to be really bothering you.  It's up on their offer page as we speak but you probably know better than all of us actually involved in the relationship.

https://www.xfinity.com/learn/offers

You'll see that there are commitment contracts and no commitment contracts.  For $10 a month I opted for no commitment.  It appears it's been narrowed to a year now though.

My specific one:  https://www.xfinity.com/learn/offers/details?offerId=9777103963&buyflowConsumerType=MyPlanRepackager (now narrowed to a year)

Have to say, in all my years on this board, this is probably the most absurd back and forth I have ever been a part of....I guess people WILL argue about damn near anything and to what end? :lol: 

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22 minutes ago, CletiusMaximus said:

I agree, and would be interested myself since I subscribe to ESPN+, but I've not seen anything that indicates the bundle offer has an option to include Hulu Live.

 

Yeah, it may be a separate add on?  

If not, sling may be an option as well.  Once all the packages are avail, will need to see whats actually offered at what price to put it all together.  

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21 minutes ago, The Commish said:

You can call them and argue with them I guess?   Seems to be really bothering you.  It's up on their offer page as we speak but you probably know better than all of us actually involved in the relationship.

https://www.xfinity.com/learn/offers

You'll see that there are commitment contracts and no commitment contracts.  For $10 a month I opted for no commitment.  It appears it's been narrowed to a year now though.

My specific one:  https://www.xfinity.com/learn/offers/details?offerId=9777103963&buyflowConsumerType=MyPlanRepackager (now narrowed to a year)

Have to say, in all my years on this board, this is probably the most absurd back and forth I have ever been a part of....I guess people WILL argue about damn near anything and to what end? :lol: 

Got it.  You're paying an extra fee per month for the no strings attached.  :lmao:  I think I found the string attached.  Funny thing is that you'll probably still be with them after two years so they just got you for another $240.  That $240 matches almost exactly the early cancellation fee for the commitment contracts.  You see what they did there right, they front loaded the cancellation fee onto you?

Please don't take me wrong, I'm not trying to argue with you, I just have a hatred for these companies because they keep pushing an antiquated model and they swindle people out of their money.  Their tactics are particularly effective with old people and to me that is unacceptable.

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39 minutes ago, tonydead said:

Got it.  You're paying an extra fee per month for the no strings attached.  :lmao:  I think I found the string attached.  Funny thing is that you'll probably still be with them after two years so they just got you for another $240.  That $240 matches almost exactly the early cancellation fee for the commitment contracts.  You see what they did there right, they front loaded the cancellation fee onto you?

Please don't take me wrong, I'm not trying to argue with you, I just have a hatred for these companies because they keep pushing an antiquated model and they swindle people out of their money.  Their tactics are particularly effective with old people and to me that is unacceptable.

This is so weird....you said this:

2 hours ago, tonydead said:

I'm not aware of Comcast ever giving price guarantees without a contract.  Well, of course it wouldn't be a guarantee without a contract, and they supposedly just provided you in writing this price guarantee with no strings attached?  What's their motivation for doing that?  I don't think you have what you think you have.  But, that's ok, just trying to let you know.

I don't have a contract with them :shrug:  (outside what I signed for the equipment that it seems I should be taking back)

The phrases "guarantee without a contract" and "no strings attached" are doing some major work to maintain your perspective here.  Am I on candid camera??  :oldunsure: 

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Just switched my mom to antenna and firestick streaming last week when home. Unbelievable some of the bull#### fees/charges Comcast was assessing her. :lol: Broadcast fee. Some HD fee :lmao: Regional Sports Fee :lmao:. It was $50/mo just in pure bullshlt charges. I really couldn't stop laughing when I read her bill. No clue how she got roped into that considering I don't think she's watched sports in her life. She was locked into a 2 year agreement somehow (though customer for 6+ yrs). Paid her $110 early termination. She's saving $100/mo now.

Cable and Internet was $175/mo and supposedly that was some $40/mo bundle "discount" :lmao: .  She's now paying a total of $75/mo for Internet and Philo/Pluto.

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1 minute ago, The Commish said:

@matttyl As far as I can see, there isn't anything in the streaming app that isn't wrapped into the X1 box itself.  I see my DVR, I see my favorites everything.

And what devices is this app available on?  firestick would be great, but roku would work, too.  Saves me a $6 per TV rental!

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18 minutes ago, matttyl said:

And what devices is this app available on?  firestick would be great, but roku would work, too.  Saves me a $6 per TV rental!

I have the Roku stick +

I think it's probably available on all Roku, but not sure.  It saves on that AND it frees you up to buy your own modem/router if you are renting.

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Just now, The Commish said:

I have the Roku stick +

I think it's probably available on all Roku, but not sure.  It saves on that AND it frees you up to buy your own modem/router if you are renting.

I’m already doing that, though.  Why dies this app make any difference?

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4 minutes ago, matttyl said:

I’m already doing that, though.  Why dies this app make any difference?

Your own modem/router you mean?  I was told my router wouldn't work even though it met all the criteria.  They had a short list of modems that would work with their wireless boxes.  If you have one, good on ya :thumbup: The app doesn't make a difference, so I can go back to my router and they can't hide behind "incompatible equipment" when it doesn't work.  I've been on with them for a short period of time and experienced all kinds of problems.  It's been quite staggering actually.  It's either them or DTv and I've had it with DTv for a while...between the cost and ####ty equipment and being in Central Florida now, I need a break....had been with them since the late 90s.

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6 hours ago, Craig_MiamiFL said:

Just switched my mom to antenna and firestick streaming last week when home. Unbelievable some of the bull#### fees/charges Comcast was assessing her. :lol: Broadcast fee. Some HD fee :lmao: Regional Sports Fee :lmao:. It was $50/mo just in pure bullshlt charges. I really couldn't stop laughing when I read her bill. No clue how she got roped into that considering I don't think she's watched sports in her life. She was locked into a 2 year agreement somehow (though customer for 6+ yrs). Paid her $110 early termination. She's saving $100/mo now.

Cable and Internet was $175/mo and supposedly that was some $40/mo bundle "discount" :lmao: .  She's now paying a total of $75/mo for Internet and Philo/Pluto.

She didn't know she could have paid them an extra $10 a month for six years to avoid that termination fee?:lol:

I'm glad you're laughing about it because I think it's pretty sad the way these companies prey on people. Besides being monopolies. Some of these people should be in jail. 

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6 minutes ago, tonydead said:

She didn't know she could have paid them an extra $10 a month for six years to avoid that termination fee?:lol:

I'm glad you're laughing about it because I think it's pretty sad the way these companies prey on people. Besides being monopolies. Some of these people should be in jail. 

:lol: She had no idea. Apparently work was paying for her internet til last year (through Comcast as well) but then when she had to add it to her existing cable package with Comcast they tacked a 2 year agreement to it. She got roped by someone by having regional sports package :lmao: . She just autopays everything w/o questioning.

I just find it unbelievable that people are paying $200+/mo for internet and TV in 2019.

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15 hours ago, The Commish said:

@matttyl As far as I can see, there isn't anything in the streaming app that isn't wrapped into the X1 box itself.  I see my DVR, I see my favorites everything.

Turns out my rokus are too old for the app.  Now I have to decide if I want to buy a new one just to be able to use it like an x1 box (TVs also have firesticks, which I like more), while the app is free.

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1 minute ago, matttyl said:

Turns out my rokus are too old for the app.  Now I have to decide if I want to buy a new one just to be able to use it like an x1 box (TVs also have firesticks, which I like more), while the app is free.

Have you looked to see if your firestick will accept it?  For me, each stick would be paid for within the year and then I have them for other streaming services should I decide to change to something else.

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15 minutes ago, The Commish said:

Have you looked to see if your firestick will accept it?  For me, each stick would be paid for within the year and then I have them for other streaming services should I decide to change to something else.

There isn't an "official way" to install the app onto a firestick.  I might try to get a roku cheap and give it a shot.  Just hate that I have two older rokus at home and an older chromecast and none of it's being used anymore. 

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On 7/24/2019 at 6:48 AM, Craig_MiamiFL said:

I'm always open at looking at options but streaming service options are so affordable and good that don't have to shop around. 

Philo has been awesome for me. On demand/DVR options and only $16/mo. Not a single hiccup since I've started. Quality for me as far exceeded Sling/DTV Now/Vue. Pluto offers a ton of past content for free as well. Along with free YouTube/live streams. 

I use to be a big user of Kodi but havent once loaded it in probably 2 years at this point. There's just so many affordable quality options out there. I tell my family members all the time that they're wasting their money paying $100+/mo for cable while spending maybe a handful of hours/week watching TV.

i'm seeing $20 for Philo, but isn't it also kind of like the Sling $20 or $25 plan, each of which has some sports?  And also gives you the option to change subs at any time to go up or down in channels?

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2 hours ago, Long Ball Larry said:

i'm seeing $20 for Philo, but isn't it also kind of like the Sling $20 or $25 plan, each of which has some sports?  And also gives you the option to change subs at any time to go up or down in channels?

Yeah Philo went up to $20/mo for new customers back in May I think. Old customers are still getting the service at $16/mo.

Philo isn't a option for sports. I really haven't watched much sports the past couple years so isn't a great inconvenience to me. When I have had any urge to watch sports, (NBA playoffs, NCAA tourney, etc...), I can usually find a free month with alternate services. 

I tried Sling way back when they started so I can't comment on present day but Philo is far and away IMO the best streaming service out of all the ones I've tried (Sling,DTV Now, Vue, Youtube). Has DVR, VOD, and is really simple and clean to navigate. 

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12 hours ago, Craig_MiamiFL said:

Yeah Philo went up to $20/mo for new customers back in May I think. Old customers are still getting the service at $16/mo.

Philo isn't a option for sports. I really haven't watched much sports the past couple years so isn't a great inconvenience to me. When I have had any urge to watch sports, (NBA playoffs, NCAA tourney, etc...), I can usually find a free month with alternate services. 

I tried Sling way back when they started so I can't comment on present day but Philo is far and away IMO the best streaming service out of all the ones I've tried (Sling,DTV Now, Vue, Youtube). Has DVR, VOD, and is really simple and clean to navigate. 

So Philo is like Sling or Hulu? What, then, is Pluto?

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13 hours ago, Uruk-Hai said:

So Philo is like Sling or Hulu? What, then, is Pluto?

Philo is live TV like Sling/DTV Now/etc...

Pluto is old(er) shows. Believe of Viacom programming (MTV, Comedy Central, etc...) and others. Very good free option IMO. I never have a problem finding something to watch with it

Neither are sports options. I believe Pluto has reruns of the show Skip Bayless& Shannon Sharpe do (I believe). Never watched it but seem to remember seeing it on their guide.

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So I'm trying out Sling Orange and Blue and overall it's pretty good but there are some limitations.  I am currently having to switch to antenna for locals since I don't have the antenna to go through my stereo receiver.  Also there are some channels sports wise I can't get. (regional Fox Sports / EPL matches on CNBC etc.)

I was thinking about switching to the Comcast streaming service (over a Fire stick) since I already have their internet and it would be roughly the same price as Sling with more channels. Any thoughts on the actual streaming service itself?  (Not their Roku-like box which I have seen many negative reviews both here and elsewhere). It looks like DVR is limited to 20 hours and the number of streams is limited to 2.

 

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Jumping in here.  Have not read through this thread and will go back as needed.

Moving to a new home and looking at streaming services.  With young kids, I'm not looking at anything complicated so will stick with mainstream services.

Considering YouTube TV vs. DirecTV Now vs. Sling. Open to other ideas.

--We have Netflix and Amazon already and will likely keep both

--I don't really care about movie channels or really a whole lot of regular TV.  But want to have something.

--I care about live sports most of all.  Fox Sports, NBC Sports, ESPN, etc.  The more sports options the better in case I want to watch something live on TV.

Want to go with the cheapest option that works decently and has those minimum requirements.  Don't need to pay for extras.

If I need to go back and read through certain spots or posts, please direct me in that direction.

ETA -- I have 3 firesticks (2 newer) and an Xbox One.

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5 hours ago, JaxBill said:

So I'm trying out Sling Orange and Blue and overall it's pretty good but there are some limitations.  I am currently having to switch to antenna for locals since I don't have the antenna to go through my stereo receiver.  Also there are some channels sports wise I can't get. (regional Fox Sports / EPL matches on CNBC etc.)

I was thinking about switching to the Comcast streaming service (over a Fire stick) since I already have their internet and it would be roughly the same price as Sling with more channels. Any thoughts on the actual streaming service itself?  (Not their Roku-like box which I have seen many negative reviews both here and elsewhere). It looks like DVR is limited to 20 hours and the number of streams is limited to 2.

 

Have you looked into youtubetv it will have most of your local channels if not all.  Have plenty of sports channels.  What sold me on them is they broadcast every OCSC game(Im a glutten for punishment).  Was able to watch Premier and Bundesliga games.  Unlimited DVR.  50 bucks a month.  I really like it.

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5 hours ago, gianmarco said:

Jumping in here.  Have not read through this thread and will go back as needed.

Moving to a new home and looking at streaming services.  With young kids, I'm not looking at anything complicated so will stick with mainstream services.

Considering YouTube TV vs. DirecTV Now vs. Sling. Open to other ideas.

--We have Netflix and Amazon already and will likely keep both

--I don't really care about movie channels or really a whole lot of regular TV.  But want to have something.

--I care about live sports most of all.  Fox Sports, NBC Sports, ESPN, etc.  The more sports options the better in case I want to watch something live on TV.

Want to go with the cheapest option that works decently and has those minimum requirements.  Don't need to pay for extras.

If I need to go back and read through certain spots or posts, please direct me in that direction.

ETA -- I have 3 firesticks (2 newer) and an Xbox One.

Try youtube tv see post above.

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2 minutes ago, gianmarco said:

Yeah, that's what I was leaning. And a free Roku to boot.

Interface works well? Nothing missing?

Works great for me.  It has a live guide which I like and it's not complicated which makes it easier for the wife and I as we are slow adapters to technology.

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7 hours ago, rustycolts said:

Have you looked into youtubetv it will have most of your local channels if not all.  Have plenty of sports channels.  What sold me on them is they broadcast every OCSC game(Im a glutten for punishment).  Was able to watch Premier and Bundesliga games.  Unlimited DVR.  50 bucks a month.  I really like it.

Thanks. I'm not seeing NFLN, NHLN, or Red Zone. 

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13 hours ago, gianmarco said:

Jumping in here.  Have not read through this thread and will go back as needed.

Moving to a new home and looking at streaming services.  With young kids, I'm not looking at anything complicated so will stick with mainstream services.

Considering YouTube TV vs. DirecTV Now vs. Sling. Open to other ideas.

--We have Netflix and Amazon already and will likely keep both

--I don't really care about movie channels or really a whole lot of regular TV.  But want to have something.

--I care about live sports most of all.  Fox Sports, NBC Sports, ESPN, etc.  The more sports options the better in case I want to watch something live on TV.

Want to go with the cheapest option that works decently and has those minimum requirements.  Don't need to pay for extras.

If I need to go back and read through certain spots or posts, please direct me in that direction.

ETA -- I have 3 firesticks (2 newer) and an Xbox One.

Sports was a big thing for me too and I ended up with VUE.  It has all the ESPNs plus some good regional ESPN college coverage as well.  Also has NFL Network, Big Ten Network, SEC Network and MLB Network.

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Vue has been my choice for a while because of NFL network. Would like to try Hulu or Youtube TV, but no NFL network is a no go for me.  Vue is more expensive than sling, but in my experience it has a much better picture than sling and is way more stable than DTV now.

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I got rid of DirecTV this year after 25 years and chose PS Vue. I’m very pleased with the service. 

It costs more than the other options but is still way less than DTV. The picture is a little bit worse than DTV but I got used to it in one day. I assume that it’ll only get better. First year without NFL Sunday Ticket though. 

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With Uverse no longer offering NFL Network and the Redzone I'm looking into options. For comparison Comcast Xfinity 3 TV's and internet with NFL Network and Redzone will cost about $130 a month.

It looks like PS Vue is the only streaming service that offers the must haves for us. Core + sports pack will give us live sports on all major networks, ESPN, NFL Network, Redzone, plus all the main basic cable channels for the wife.

We will need this for 3 TV's in the same house, do we need 3 separate devices? Which device is recommended? Our son has a playstation but otherwise we do not have any other compatible device.

PS Vue with the sports pack will cost $65 a month, then add internet approx $50 a month for a total of $115 a month. Does not seem worth it compared to $130 a month for Comcast Xfinity TV internet package. Did I miss something?

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17 hours ago, dmac37 said:

With Uverse no longer offering NFL Network and the Redzone I'm looking into options. For comparison Comcast Xfinity 3 TV's and internet with NFL Network and Redzone will cost about $130 a month.

It looks like PS Vue is the only streaming service that offers the must haves for us. Core + sports pack will give us live sports on all major networks, ESPN, NFL Network, Redzone, plus all the main basic cable channels for the wife.

We will need this for 3 TV's in the same house, do we need 3 separate devices? Which device is recommended? Our son has a playstation but otherwise we do not have any other compatible device.

PS Vue with the sports pack will cost $65 a month, then add internet approx $50 a month for a total of $115 a month. Does not seem worth it compared to $130 a month for Comcast Xfinity TV internet package. Did I miss something?

The big something is the cost after the initial price deal. I’ve got Spectrum for Internet and Phone and it went up after the first 12 months. Looks like Xfinity holds the $130 price for 2 years.

I’d rather save the $15 a month (and more in 2 years) and get 3 Firesticks. Not only do I think you’ll like it better, but you can watch Netflix, Amazon Prime, your Internet TV choice, Hulu and HBO (I get free from AT&T), etc. on one interface. The other really nice option since we travel a decent amount is that I can take my Firestick with me and plug it in to a hotel or condo TV and it all works. Some places have Smart TVs but it’s much nicer to not have to login and jump around.

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