bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
so whats the hit rate on these Devy players? burning a 4th round start up pick on em seems like a bit much?
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- Thread starter wiscstlatlmia
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wiscstlatlmia
Footballguy
I agree actually, that its a bit crazy how far the RBs fell. But how much stock can you really put in a RB nowadays? The best WRs are scoring right up there with RBs now, especially in ppr.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
It's about 50/50 overall - with a better hit rate in the first 2-4 each year. Not worth a 4th round pick though IMO.And it's a WR world these days - last three years RBs have fallen in almost every startup draft I've seen or been in.
wiscstlatlmia
Footballguy
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wiscstlatlmia
Footballguy
8th Round:
http://profoundsportssound.blogspot.com/2012/02/dynasty-start-up-8th-round.html
9th Round:
http://profoundsportssound.blogspot.com/2012/02/dynasty-start-up-9th-round.html
10th Round:
http://profoundsportssound.blogspot.com/2012/02/start-up-dynasty-10th-round.html
11th Round:
http://profoundsportssound.blogspot.com/2012/02/dynasty-start-up-11th-round.html
12th Round:
http://profoundsportssound.blogspot.com/2012/02/dynasty-start-up-12th-round.html
This is the part where you need to have done your homework lol. ..middle rounds of a 14 teamer, the value is getting fewer and farther between.
http://profoundsportssound.blogspot.com/2012/02/dynasty-start-up-8th-round.html
9th Round:
http://profoundsportssound.blogspot.com/2012/02/dynasty-start-up-9th-round.html
10th Round:
http://profoundsportssound.blogspot.com/2012/02/start-up-dynasty-10th-round.html
11th Round:
http://profoundsportssound.blogspot.com/2012/02/dynasty-start-up-11th-round.html
12th Round:
http://profoundsportssound.blogspot.com/2012/02/dynasty-start-up-12th-round.html
This is the part where you need to have done your homework lol. ..middle rounds of a 14 teamer, the value is getting fewer and farther between.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Not sure I agree with this comment:
Turner will be 30 and Jackson 31 next season and Turner started looking particularly slow at the end of the season. Jackson still looked good, but now he'll have to deal with Spiller who performed well in his absense.Donald Brown in Round 12 may turn into the steal of the draft - people must not have been paying attention to what he was doing once he started getting the majority of carries in the season's second half.
Kitrick Taylor
Footballguy
I was in need of a RB3, and was looking at all of these guys in question. Didn't like Jackson at 31 years old coming off a bad wheel with Spiller coming on. Agree totally on Turner as well. He relies so heavily on getting a lot of touches for his fantasy points. I think they are likely to bring in somebody to compete there, as well as giving Quizz more attention. Those guys both went in the 10th rd. I took Pierre Thomas just ahead of Donald Brown in the 12th. Brown certainly was a consideration, but I'm not sure that his role is secure there. Whole new coaching staff/GM etc, have little to nothing invested in Brown. PT has a pretty clearly defined role in NO, and in PPR its a pretty valuable role. He finished RB23 last year. I think he's a much safer bet for similar finishes for the next couple seasons.
Are you saying Ingram won't cut into Thomas' role at all in the next season or two? Thomas is productive when given touches, but I really don't know what to make of New Orlean's backfield. If anything, Sproles is the only one who has a clearly defined role that won't change IMO. Thomas could easily become an afterthought or 5-6 touche a game guy if Ingram develops.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
I was jsut thinking this, why would Sean Payton move up to take him if he didnt like him? Once ingram gets the plays down, remember these rookies had no real camp or OTA's and then he had nagging injuries.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
That's a fair point on Brown (new GM and coaching staff) as it was Polian that was praising him after the season and "annointing" him for 2012. I do think he should be the favorite for carries this season, as he did look much better than Carter and would be a good pass catcher in Arians' offense. I still think he was a great 12th round pick.
Kitrick Taylor
Footballguy
No offense, but I don't think you two are understanding the new NFL. The vast majority of teams are going to be doing exactly what the Saints did with their backfield this year sooner rather than later.. Jim Scwartz said they want to mimic it with Leshoure, Best and Smith. Mike McCarthy recently said he has no interest in a 1700 yard back. He doesn't believe in it. He wants what he had in 2010. A healthy RB with fresh legs in January. If Ingram proves to be the better pro than Thomas, his role during the regular season may be very similar to what it was this year. Once playoff season arrives, Peyton would like to unleash a fresh legged Ingram on defenses.
It would also increase the career longevity of their top tier RBs.
No nice for fantasy football, but makes a ton of sense for real NFL teams.
wiscstlatlmia
Footballguy
Yea, I guess I'm just surprised the name value fell so far, never been a big fan of turner but I was still surprised he was there so late. 13th Round:http://profoundsportssound.blogspot.com/2012/02/dynasty-start-up-13th-round.html14th Round:http://profoundsportssound.blogspot.com/2012/02/dynasty-start-up-14th-round.html'Dr. Octopus said:
wiscstlatlmia
Footballguy
15th Round:
http://profoundsportssound.blogspot.com/2012/02/dynasty-start-up-15th-round.html
16th Round:
http://profoundsportssound.blogspot.com/2012/02/dynasty-start-up-16th-round.html
17th Round:
http://profoundsportssound.blogspot.com/2012/02/dynasty-start-up-17th-round.html
18th Round:
http://profoundsportssound.blogspot.com/2012/02/dynasty-start-up-18th-round.html
19th Round:
http://profoundsportssound.blogspot.com/2012/02/dynasty-start-up-19th-round.html
20th Round:
http://profoundsportssound.blogspot.com/2012/02/dynasty-start-up-20th-round.html
21st Round:
http://profoundsportssound.blogspot.com/2012/02/dynasty-start-up-21st-round.html
22nd Round:
http://profoundsportssound.blogspot.com/2012/02/dynasty-start-up-22nd-round.html
I didn't feel the need to keep bumping this thread for the later rounds. So here is 15- 22 ... some interesting picks and prospects...I wasn't even farmiliar with a few of the names that people threw out there
. Regardless, check it out!
http://profoundsportssound.blogspot.com/2012/02/dynasty-start-up-15th-round.html
16th Round:
http://profoundsportssound.blogspot.com/2012/02/dynasty-start-up-16th-round.html
17th Round:
http://profoundsportssound.blogspot.com/2012/02/dynasty-start-up-17th-round.html
18th Round:
http://profoundsportssound.blogspot.com/2012/02/dynasty-start-up-18th-round.html
19th Round:
http://profoundsportssound.blogspot.com/2012/02/dynasty-start-up-19th-round.html
20th Round:
http://profoundsportssound.blogspot.com/2012/02/dynasty-start-up-20th-round.html
21st Round:
http://profoundsportssound.blogspot.com/2012/02/dynasty-start-up-21st-round.html
22nd Round:
http://profoundsportssound.blogspot.com/2012/02/dynasty-start-up-22nd-round.html
I didn't feel the need to keep bumping this thread for the later rounds. So here is 15- 22 ... some interesting picks and prospects...I wasn't even farmiliar with a few of the names that people threw out there
. Regardless, check it out!
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at least you liked 2 of my 22 picks
seriously, it was a very interesting draft to see the varying strategies of some of the more prodigious dynasty posters:
Win Now
Compete Now with an eye to win in year 1-3
Win Year 3-5 years
a couple of teams will have a tough time fielding a complete starting lineup every week in year 1
seriously, it was a very interesting draft to see the varying strategies of some of the more prodigious dynasty posters:
Win Now
Compete Now with an eye to win in year 1-3
Win Year 3-5 years
a couple of teams will have a tough time fielding a complete starting lineup every week in year 1
Dawg Pound 69
Footballguy
If the draft is over, can you provide the MFL link ?
wiscstlatlmia
Footballguy
Hey guys, did one last update before the draft.
Me and one of my buddies(Zimm) have been working on a site of for a while now and its finally finished!
The site is fully based on fantasy football and all the amazingness that comes with it.
We added an easy to communicate website chat, daily blog with videos, recent trades in our leagues(with polls) , rookie rankings , mock drafts and much more.
Check it out: http://fantasy-footballu.com/
Me and one of my buddies(Zimm) have been working on a site of for a while now and its finally finished!
The site is fully based on fantasy football and all the amazingness that comes with it.
We added an easy to communicate website chat, daily blog with videos, recent trades in our leagues(with polls) , rookie rankings , mock drafts and much more.
Check it out: http://fantasy-footballu.com/
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solorca
Footballguy
I'm a little surprised to see Greg Olsen not listed in the top 20 TE rankings. With Shockey possibly retiring and Olsen building a good relationship with Newton, I think he's prime for a big season in 2011.
One thing people missed about him last season is that he is a better blocker than Jeremy Shockey, so he was asked to block quite a bit starting at the point his numbers started to drop. This was due to Jeff Otah getting injured and eventually being placed on IR. As the O-Line improves and gets healthy, Olsen will once again be in more receiving packages.
One thing people missed about him last season is that he is a better blocker than Jeremy Shockey, so he was asked to block quite a bit starting at the point his numbers started to drop. This was due to Jeff Otah getting injured and eventually being placed on IR. As the O-Line improves and gets healthy, Olsen will once again be in more receiving packages.
wiscstlatlmia
Footballguy
Valid point. Hes one of those guys for me, I feel like I've been waiting so long for him to break out that I need to see it happen first before I'm a believer. I trust his talent, I dont trust the team and how they are going to use him. It's the same thing With John Carlson, I have no problem moving them both up significantly if they are used more.
ctrlaltdefeat
Footballguy
Anybody seen sites that have a top 100 or top 200 overall dynasty rankings? Looking for some help for a couple startup drafts coming up.
ctrlaltdefeat
Footballguy
Sweet! Let me know.
greggorymac
Footballguy
Yeah, curious to see where you have Charles.
wiscstlatlmia
Footballguy
I wont be officially updating them again until after the draft(want to see where everything falls) but Charles is an interesting one. I really dont think the Hillis signing hurts Charles that much. If you own Charles, you didn't want him getting over 300 touches in a year anyway. I still consider Charles an elite talent and he wont be falling out of my top 7 or 8 for RBs. RIght this very moment, second, time ...Rankings1. Ray Rice2. Arian Foster3. LeSean McCoy4. Chris Johnson5. Trent Richardson6.Darren McFadden7. Matt Forte*8.Jamaal Charles*9.Ryan Mathews10. CJ Spiller * These two are interchangable for me, need more time to think on it, but I give the slight edge to Forte as of now because he can handle a bigger workload.ETA: O WOW! I just realized the link on the first page wasn't working, I apologize and corrected it. Should be all- set now. As It says, most recent update was March 1, 2012 .
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wiscstlatlmia
Footballguy
http://fantasy-footballu.com/russell-clay-rankings/
newest update for QBs
finally starting to make some headway on the formatting. (shout out to http://www.four-downs.com/ for all the help)
Check it out!
newest update for QBs
finally starting to make some headway on the formatting. (shout out to http://www.four-downs.com/ for all the help)
Check it out!
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Like the new formatting a lot.
wiscstlatlmia
Footballguy
Thanks man! totally agree. I was never satisfied with how it looked until now. http://fantasy-footballu.com/russell-clay-rankings/
alright guys , Just finished Running backs.
90 guys ranked in 11 tiers.
From around player 50 on I ranked them based on what I thought of the individual player without putting as much stock in situation. Most are stuck behind a few people on the depth chart and are looking for something to fall their way to get an opportunity.
Let me know what you think, feedback is always encouraged!
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KellysHeroes
Footballguy
love the effort into this but you would draft Locker over Dalton?
wiscstlatlmia
Footballguy
Yes, I would. Locker's situation is much better and he gets a huge leg up in the mobility aspect( huge advantage for QBs now.)I think Dalton is the classic 'ok you got us last year... we figured you out now' type of player. Personally, I dont think hes that talented. Not to mention Green is going to get the Fitz/Calvin treatment. Things wont be as easy for him as they were last year.http://fantasy-footballu.com/russell-clay-rankings/
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First reaction on the rbs was that Reggie bush was too high, but after looking closer there just isn't many solid FF rb's.
Made me realize how shallow the RB pool is.
Overall there really isn't much I can argue with, your rankings mesh pretty well with my own.
I love the spiller call, he's vastly under rated by many. Also like how you have MJD lower then most.
Scary how close your rankings are to mine.
Made me realize how shallow the RB pool is.
Overall there really isn't much I can argue with, your rankings mesh pretty well with my own.
I love the spiller call, he's vastly under rated by many. Also like how you have MJD lower then most.
Scary how close your rankings are to mine.
wiscstlatlmia
Footballguy
well,as they say.... great minds think alike?
Yea, I just like the way Bush ran last year. He was finally able to stay healthy and showed what so many expected when he was drafted (5.0 YPC and ending the year with 4 100 yard games in a row)I'm not sure Bush will stay healthy a whole year again,but hes worth the potential considering, like you said, the diluted RB pool.
wiscstlatlmia
Footballguy
Its not a total indictment on Hillman, I'm just not sold that hes got the starting Job to himself. Jeremiah Johnson impressed me in limited duty last year and I have a good feeling about Mario Fannin also. If Hillman can win the feature back role in camp I will move him up significantly, its far from a sure thing at this point though. They also have Knowshon Moreno hanging around , who knows if he finally decides to turn it on.
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Monty Burns
Footballguy
THANKS for all your effort on this.....one insight needed....Helu at 43???
wiscstlatlmia
Footballguy
I'm a bit worried about Helu hanging onto the starting role in Washington, I like his situation, Especially with incoming RGIII. The Redskins committing to him as the feature back is far from a sure thing though, at least in my eyes.If he does hang onto the job, I will move him up, and move him up significantly in redraft. Certainly something I will be monitoring this training camp.
wiscstlatlmia
Footballguy
Wide Receivers:
http://fantasy-footballu.com/russell-clay-rankings/
alright guys I'm done for a while let me know what you think and I'll probably update again after training camp and preseason.
http://fantasy-footballu.com/russell-clay-rankings/
alright guys I'm done for a while let me know what you think and I'll probably update again after training camp and preseason.
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KellysHeroes
Footballguy
thats a little high for blackmon'wiscstlatlmia said:
RavenLunatic
Footballguy
Agree also on Spiller. People are going to be shocked if they didn't pay attention at the end of last season. Looked just like he did in college.'moderated said:
wiscstlatlmia
Footballguy
Cant wait for the season! 
Thewhiteknuckler
Footballguy
I Must say i always enjoy both of your rankings and posts. I think Peterson is ranked too low and Spiller two high but i like its overall great rankings.
wiscstlatlmia
Footballguy
thanks a lot man, seriously. Its nice to here feedback on the rankings, even if you don't agree.Peterson could very well be too low, I just need to see him out there and at least semi-back to himself, in that case I will move him back up(potentially back to #1). He did suffer a pretty serious injury though... has me a bit worried.Spiller might be a little high also, I just love the kid and I think the Bills saw enough from him last year to know they need to get him the ball. Obviously Fred Jackson is the feature back there, and I cant blame them, but I think it would be a major mistake for the Bill not to get spiller at least 10-14 touches a game this year(which I think he could make a solid impact with).
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wiscstlatlmia
Footballguy
Hey guys, welp, after a long offseason and A LOT of mock drafts(dynasty and redraft), I think I have a pretty good handle on where most players stand. Obviously a lot of puff pieces and bologna coming out in the media right now, but definitely some valuable information mixed in.
anywho, here are the rankings(which can also be found in the first post).
Quarterback 7/4/12:
http://fantasy-footballu.com/russell-clay-rankings/
Running Back 7/4/12:
http://fantasy-footballu.com/russell-clay-rankings/
Wide Receiver 7/4/12:
http://fantasy-footballu.com/russell-clay-rankings/
Tight End 7/4/12:
http://fantasy-footballu.com/russell-clay-rankings/
Most notable movers on the lists:
*note*just because they move up and down does not necessarily mean I have an significant reasoning or information for the change(although sometimes it does). It may just simply mean I feel I had ranked them to low previously
QB:
Josh Freeman(up)
Ryan Fitzpatrick(up)
Matt Cassel (up)
RB:
Felix Jones (up)
Donald Brown (up)
James Starks (up)
Roy Helu (up)
Rashard Mendenhall (up)
Ronnie Hillman (up)
Michael Bush (down)
Peyton Hillis (down)
Willis Mcgahee (up)
Lagarrette Blount (up)
Bernard Pierce (up)
Taiwan Jones (down)
WR:
Brandon Marshall (up)
Kenny Britt (down)
Demaryius Thomas (up)
Vincent Jackson (up)
Torrey Smith (up)
Robert Meachem (up)
Eric Decker (up)
Alshon Jeffery (up)
Mike Williams Tampa Bay (up)
Santana Moss (up)
Titus Young (up)
Juron Criner (up)
Brian Quick (up)
Chad Ochocino (up)
Arrelious Benn (down)
Nate Burleson(up)
Mario Manningham (down)
Chaz Schilens (up)
BJ Cunningham (down)
TE:
Greg Olsen (up)
Jacob Tamme (up)
Jordan Cameron (up)
Scott Chandler (up)
Robert Housler (up)
Michael Egnew (down)
Kellen Winslow(down)
Julius Thomas(down)
Joel Dressen (down)
just another note,I reallly suggest checking out the blog
we started posting highlight videos last week and already have over 50 of them! we will be adding more just about daily in the future, so if you enjoy watching highlight tapes, we will keep you entertained. As you see here http://fantasy-footballu.com/blog-referencearchive/ we have a blog reference that keeps each highlight organized so its simple to find who your looking for! Just an easier way to find video on guys. (a lot of youtubing hours logged so you guys dont have to LOL)
Once again, feedback is welcome
anywho, here are the rankings(which can also be found in the first post).
Quarterback 7/4/12:
http://fantasy-footballu.com/russell-clay-rankings/
Running Back 7/4/12:
http://fantasy-footballu.com/russell-clay-rankings/
Wide Receiver 7/4/12:
http://fantasy-footballu.com/russell-clay-rankings/
Tight End 7/4/12:
http://fantasy-footballu.com/russell-clay-rankings/
Most notable movers on the lists:
*note*just because they move up and down does not necessarily mean I have an significant reasoning or information for the change(although sometimes it does). It may just simply mean I feel I had ranked them to low previously
QB:
Josh Freeman(up)
Ryan Fitzpatrick(up)
Matt Cassel (up)
RB:
Felix Jones (up)
Donald Brown (up)
James Starks (up)
Roy Helu (up)
Rashard Mendenhall (up)
Ronnie Hillman (up)
Michael Bush (down)
Peyton Hillis (down)
Willis Mcgahee (up)
Lagarrette Blount (up)
Bernard Pierce (up)
Taiwan Jones (down)
WR:
Brandon Marshall (up)
Kenny Britt (down)
Demaryius Thomas (up)
Vincent Jackson (up)
Torrey Smith (up)
Robert Meachem (up)
Eric Decker (up)
Alshon Jeffery (up)
Mike Williams Tampa Bay (up)
Santana Moss (up)
Titus Young (up)
Juron Criner (up)
Brian Quick (up)
Chad Ochocino (up)
Arrelious Benn (down)
Nate Burleson(up)
Mario Manningham (down)
Chaz Schilens (up)
BJ Cunningham (down)
TE:
Greg Olsen (up)
Jacob Tamme (up)
Jordan Cameron (up)
Scott Chandler (up)
Robert Housler (up)
Michael Egnew (down)
Kellen Winslow(down)
Julius Thomas(down)
Joel Dressen (down)
just another note,I reallly suggest checking out the blog
we started posting highlight videos last week and already have over 50 of them! we will be adding more just about daily in the future, so if you enjoy watching highlight tapes, we will keep you entertained. As you see here http://fantasy-footballu.com/blog-referencearchive/ we have a blog reference that keeps each highlight organized so its simple to find who your looking for! Just an easier way to find video on guys. (a lot of youtubing hours logged so you guys dont have to LOL)
Once again, feedback is welcome
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Bronx Bomber
Footballguy
One of the only rankers to use teirs. I appreciate that.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
interesting to see how much has changed in just 1 off-season
az_prof
Footballguy
I appreciate your rankings. I don't always comment but I do always check them out when you update. It is nice to compare to my own. Pretty much have no disagreements with your UP and Down list although I wonder about B. Pierce since I had heard he was having trouble learning the offense and was looking like a permanent situational backup.Hey guys, welp, after a long offseason and A LOT of mock drafts(dynasty and redraft), I think I have a pretty good handle on where most players stand. Obviously a lot of puff pieces and bologna coming out in the media right now, but definitely some valuable information mixed in.
anywho, here are the rankings(which can also be found in the first post).
Quarterback 7/4/12:
http://fantasy-footballu.com/quarterbackfsd/
Running Back 7/4/12:
http://fantasy-footballu.com/running-backs/
Wide Receiver 7/4/12:
http://fantasy-footballu.com/wide-receiver/
Tight End 7/4/12:
http://fantasy-footballu.com/tight-end/
Most notable movers on the lists:
*note*just because they move up and down does not necessarily mean I have an significant reasoning or information for the change(although sometimes it does). It may just simply mean I feel I had ranked them to low previously
QB:
Josh Freeman(up)
Ryan Fitzpatrick(up)
Matt Cassel (up)
RB:
Felix Jones (up)
Donald Brown (up)
James Starks (up)
Roy Helu (up)
Rashard Mendenhall (up)
Ronnie Hillman (up)
Michael Bush (down)
Peyton Hillis (down)
Willis Mcgahee (up)
Lagarrette Blount (up)
Bernard Pierce (up)
Taiwan Jones (down)
WR:
Brandon Marshall (up)
Kenny Britt (down)
Demaryius Thomas (up)
Vincent Jackson (up)
Torrey Smith (up)
Robert Meachem (up)
Eric Decker (up)
Alshon Jeffery (up)
Mike Williams Tampa Bay (up)
Santana Moss (up)
Titus Young (up)
Juron Criner (up)
Brian Quick (up)
Chad Ochocino (up)
Arrelious Benn (down)
Nate Burleson(up)
Mario Manningham (down)
Chaz Schilens (up)
BJ Cunningham (down)
TE:
Greg Olsen (up)
Jacob Tamme (up)
Jordan Cameron (up)
Scott Chandler (up)
Robert Housler (up)
Michael Egnew (down)
Kellen Winslow(down)
Julius Thomas(down)
Joel Dressen (down)
just another note,I reallly suggest checking out the blog
we started posting highlight videos last week and already have over 50 of them! we will be adding more just about daily in the future, so if you enjoy watching highlight tapes, we will keep you entertained. As you see here http://fantasy-footballu.com/blog-referencearchive/ we have a blog reference that keeps each highlight organized so its simple to find who your looking for! Just an easier way to find video on guys. (a lot of youtubing hours logged so you guys dont have to LOL)
Once again, feedback is welcome
Dawg Pound 69
Footballguy
Seems like the reviews have been mixed on Pierce so far. This positive blurb came out yesterday :
(TheHuddle) Baltimore Ravens OC Cam Cameron hinted that rookie RB Bernard Pierce might be best suited for full-time duty if Ray Rice was unavailable for any reason.
Analysis: The Ravens traded up seven spots in the third round to select Pierce, who rushed for 27 touchdowns as a junior last year at Temple. "The one thing is you can see why we drafted him," Cameron said. "I can't wait until the pads come on. I think that becomes the true test for any young player, but he is physical, smart and fast... One thing that is obvious is that he is a good football player." Pierce is competing with Anthony Allen and Damien Berry for the No. 2 slot.
(TheHuddle) Baltimore Ravens OC Cam Cameron hinted that rookie RB Bernard Pierce might be best suited for full-time duty if Ray Rice was unavailable for any reason.
Analysis: The Ravens traded up seven spots in the third round to select Pierce, who rushed for 27 touchdowns as a junior last year at Temple. "The one thing is you can see why we drafted him," Cameron said. "I can't wait until the pads come on. I think that becomes the true test for any young player, but he is physical, smart and fast... One thing that is obvious is that he is a good football player." Pierce is competing with Anthony Allen and Damien Berry for the No. 2 slot.
wiscstlatlmia
Footballguy
It is pretty crazy how much one off season has changed so much.Its going to be the most interesting year of fantasy football I have ever been apart of. I just have a wierd feeling the defenses are going to start to catch up with the offense this year, just a strange, gut feeling lol.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Without major, hell even minor, changes to the rules that swing things back in favor of defenses, I really really don't see this happening. You'll continue to see defenses adjust and adapt, but not really catch up.
