Dought Man
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Julio Jones vs AJ Green (1 Viewer)
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Hendo
Footballguy
I love sifting through this thread reading all the negative fallacies about Julio Jones WHILE HE WAS INJURED, why do people continue to make themselves look absolutely idiotic sometimes is beyond me.
I LOVE AJ GREEN and I LOVE JULIO JONES, to say either one is better then the other at this point in their career is a blindfolded opinion, clearly BOTH are top 5 dynasty WR prospects and its not even a stretch saying that at this point.
I LOVE AJ GREEN and I LOVE JULIO JONES, to say either one is better then the other at this point in their career is a blindfolded opinion, clearly BOTH are top 5 dynasty WR prospects and its not even a stretch saying that at this point.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Is AJ Green already a top 5 wr in the NFL? I watch him play and he does pretty much everything great.
Dought Man
Footballguy
Green looks legit...Jones looks like a decoy.
RavenLunatic
Footballguy
I wouldnt knock Jones but the injury weeks have been hard. Similar to the Denarius Moore frustration.
It is just unbelievable how Green not only caught the ball but adjusted to land on his feet and continue on the run. I agree he could have scored with a dive but the injury risk isnt worth it.
He looks like a gazelle out there! So long and graceful on his plays.
It is just unbelievable how Green not only caught the ball but adjusted to land on his feet and continue on the run. I agree he could have scored with a dive but the injury risk isnt worth it.
He looks like a gazelle out there! So long and graceful on his plays.
Fiddles
Footballguy
jones looks like he has been injured and has roddy white on the other side of the fieldgreen looks redonkulous
jurb26
Footballguy
To me it's pretty simple and always has been. Green will be a top 3 WR in the NFL within a few year barring injury. He will remain as such for a long time. In fantasy, he will comfortably be a WR1 next year and beyond. With the right QB he could be the best WR in fantasy. He's that good. Enjoy the ride Green owners.
shader
Footballguy
At this point, Green has had the more impressive season, but you could argue that injuries have derailed Julio's chances.
Julio has been unbelievably impressive in a few games, but is on a team where he isn't the top dog and a team that likes to run, run, run.
In the long run I think these two are equally talented. Total studs. If I had known Dalton would be this good, I would have ranked Green ahead of Julio in dynasty. I just thought Dalton would stink and was totally wrong there.
Julio has been unbelievably impressive in a few games, but is on a team where he isn't the top dog and a team that likes to run, run, run.
In the long run I think these two are equally talented. Total studs. If I had known Dalton would be this good, I would have ranked Green ahead of Julio in dynasty. I just thought Dalton would stink and was totally wrong there.
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
It's obvious Jones was your guy from the start since you're now giving excuses for Jones. I thought you said Julio had the better skillset and when you add in Matt Ryan it wasn't close. Now you say Julio isn't the top dog and Atlanta likes to run....those sound like excuses to me from a Julio apologist.Green has made Dalton look really good. Green is doing this alone in Cincy while Julio has Roddy, Gonzalez, and a strong running game which means the D isn't paying all that much attention to him. I agree that Julio has dealt with some injury issues but based on his situation, AJ Green has been the better of the two. Extremely impressive what that kid has accomplished this year.
jurb26
Footballguy
I agree. Green is making Dalton into a much better QB than he really is right now. The truth of the matter is that Green could be posting almost Randy Moss like rookie numbers if Dalton wouldn't under throw him in EVERY freaking deep ball. I like Jones, always have. But Green is clearly the more talented player in my mind. I felt that way from their college body of work and this season has only solidified that more for me.
Green for Rookie of the year.
treat88
Footballguy
I second this.Now we just need to convince Gruden to feature him more prominently. Kid should be seeing double digit targets on a weekly basis.'jurb26 said:To me it's pretty simple and always has been. Green will be a top 3 WR in the NFL within a few year barring injury. He will remain as such for a long time. In fantasy, he will comfortably be a WR1 next year and beyond. With the right QB he could be the best WR in fantasy. He's that good. Enjoy the ride Green owners.
jurb26
Footballguy
Atl has run the ball 29.1 times per game this season. Cinci has run the ball 28.4 times per game this season.Atl has passed the ball 35.9 times per game this season. Cinci has passed the ball 34.2 times per game this season.Targets per game; Green 7.1, Jones 6.4.I'm not sure the stats really indicate this.
jurb26
Footballguy
Another week gone by and another AJ TD that could have been had Dalton been able to throw the deep ball.
Dought Man
Footballguy
This is not a fair fight. Green is just a different level WR than Julio.
Reepicheep
Footballguy
People grasping at straws at this point.
cobalt_27
Footballguy
No, it's not too early. AJG >>>>>> JJJJ pretty sweet receiver, though. Just not AJG great. Now. Ever.
jurb26
Footballguy
I was as high as anyone could have possibly been on Green coming into the league and he's even surpassing my expectations. Pretty remarkable. It's just amazing how easy he makes everything look. I don't know that I've ever seen a young WR have the ability to consistently high point the ball like him.
Banger
Footballguy
and it doesn't seem like he drops anything, regardless of how difficult the catch is. His hands are like glue and he catches the ball effortlessly.
spider321
Footballguy
Status update:AJ Green: 50/832/7. 76 receiving yards per game.Julio Jones: 34/566/2. 63 receiving yards per game.
Kitrick Taylor
Footballguy
AJ Green 63/1031/7 73.6 yards/game. .5 TDs / game.Julio Jones 50/883/6. 73.6 yards/game. .5 TDs / game.Julio's numbers are brought down by three incomplete games for him as well. He didn't finish games vs GB, NO and was clearly not back to full health vs Minny when he didn't record one catch. I'm not saying that Julio > Green. I just think they are both fantastic WRs, and anyone that says one is far superior than the other is living in fantasy land. Julio = TO with more speed and less drama.Green = Moss with less speed and less drama.Now that they have a body of work to look at, I don't think its out of the question to rate them both in the top 5 or so dynasty WRs. I'd rather have Calvin, Jennings and Fitz. I think you could debate the positioning of the next handful of guys that include Wallace, Bryant, Nicks, Jones and Green.
shader
Footballguy
Roddy White gets more targets than any receiver in the league, and the Falcons run the ball alot. I don't see how my statement was inaccurate. I never said Benson the Bengals don't run the ball.
shader
Footballguy
Julio is a beast. Another big week 17 and Julio will get 1,000 yards which is ridiculous.I don't mind if people think that Green is better. But to say it's not close is just ridiculous. The TO/Moss comparisons are great. These two wr's are both top 5 wr's for years to come.In my opinion, Nicks and Dez have both been passed easily. In fact, in startup dynasties, I think the only wr I'd take ahead of Green and Julio is Calvin Johnson. That's pretty amazing for two rookies.
shader
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Sorry I missed this post a month ago or so. I've never given any excuses for Julio. I happen to think he will be the better wr and I still think that. Green will have slightly better stats this season. Julio had hamstring problems mid-season and still might put up 1,000 yards in his rookie season. If he does, get 1000 yards in basically 12 games, that is amazing in itself.Which takes nothing away from Green either, as he has been dynamite. Can't go wrong with either guy.
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Kitrick Taylor
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I agree here as well. Nicks is an excellent WR, but he's just really struggled to stay healthy. I'm just not sure that Dez has the mental fortitude to make himself great. As for a startup, I'd still lean toward taking Calvin, Jennings and Fitz ahead of Green and Jones. Jennings and Fitz are just so consistently good its hard to rate anybody ahead of them.
1. Calvin Johnson
2. Larry Fitzgerald
3. Greg Jennings
4. AJ Green
5. Julio Jones
6. Mike Wallace
7. Hakeem Nicks
8. Dez Bryant
RavenLunatic
Footballguy
What about Welker?
shader
Footballguy
He's white so he doesn't count
Kitrick Taylor
Footballguy
He'll be 31 soon. He could be great for a few more seasons or he could just lose a step or two and be ordinary. It happens quickly in the NFL. Having said that he's in the next group after those 8 guys. Fitz is the oldest on that top 8 list, and he'll be 29 next season.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Yeah, it's not like he had a similar year to last season, just with less TD's, which have proven to be the most inconsistent stat.Oh wait...@ Nicks still so high on Dynasty rankings
Shlon
Footballguy
Can't go wrong with either guy, both are studs. AJ Green is more lean and Julio looks more physical. In measurables Julio did put up a better 40 time (4.38 vs 4.48) and higher vertical jump (38.5" vs 34.5"). YAC - Julio 17.7, AJ Green - 16.4, if Julio was healthy all season he would've put up some great numbers.
Banemorth
Footballguy
I have Cruz about Nicks
shader
Footballguy
Cruz is a great example of a guy that will be held back due to pedigree. He's going to put up 1400 yards and possibly 1500 if he has a big game Sunday. He basically didn't play week 1, so this was all in 14 weeks. He's been an animal this season and is 25 years old. He should be a stud for years. But he'll get passed over by a lot of other guys this off-season due to "one-year wonder" worries.I have Cruz about Nicks
Touchdown Syndrome
Footballguy
I'm in this camp as well.I prefer Green for sure, but can understand if someone leans toward JJones.
The Julio owner in my keeper league won't trade him for anything less than a king's ransom.
The consistency that Green has shown as a rookie (with a rookie QB to boot) is incredible. After Megatron, I'd consider Green in the #2 keeper WR discussion with Fitzgerald.
unckeyherb
Footballguy
Considering keeping Julio over Fitz in my 2 year restricted keeper league, along with cam.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
I drafted Ingram over both these guys. Last time I go with the conventional wisdom.
wiscstlatlmia
Footballguy
I think its definitely a possibility that both of these guys are future top 5 WRs in the league. They have been elite in every football situation since high school and they are doing it in there rookie years also, crazy to think that the next generations two of the three(behind Calvin) best WRs are both in the same draft class. I think you have to officially put Dez behind both Green and Jones based on the results on the field, people waiting on Bryant to get focused and actually access his talent could be waiting quite a while, not even to mention its possible both Jones are more naturally talented to begin with.
Hendo
Footballguy
.... ouch
Hendo
Footballguy
No doubt he is having an awesome season... but he's more of a top guy just not elite... he doesn't have the measurable and elite skill that a Calvin/Fitz/AJ/Julio/Dez have to be considered a long term dynasty guy over any of the above... its not a knock against him but unless you were a die-hard Cruz fan i cant see anyone ranking him over those guys. He may be 25 but hes still 3 yrs older then those rookies/Dez... just food for thought.Cruz is a great example of a guy that will be held back due to pedigree. He's going to put up 1400 yards and possibly 1500 if he has a big game Sunday. He basically didn't play week 1, so this was all in 14 weeks. He's been an animal this season and is 25 years old. He should be a stud for years. But he'll get passed over by a lot of other guys this off-season due to "one-year wonder" worries.I have Cruz about Nicks
JetMaxx
Footballguy
As I did but completely lucked out when I was offered Mathews and Julio for AJ before the hammy issue. Not sure what he was thinking.'Sabertooth said:
Tried to flip Mathews for Green while Mathews was hot early to get the rookie trifecta but the Green owner didn't bite. 
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Skeletore Eh
Footballguy
In a league where I had the number 2 and 3 pick Ingram went #1. I was kinda disappointed at the time. So happy now'Sabertooth said:
Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub
Footballguy
Kitrick Taylor
Footballguy
Final numbers.AJ Green 65/1057/7. 70.46 yards/game. .46 TDs/game.Julio Jones 54/959/8. 73.76 yards/game .61 TDs/game.Plenty of ignorant statements littered in this thread.
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