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Terrific detail. My favorite was :

On the morning of Sunday, May 1st, White House officials cancelled scheduled visits, ordered sandwich platters from Costco, and transformed the Situation Room into a war room.

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This was good too :

Obama returned to the White House at two o’clock, after playing nine holes of golf at Andrews Air Force Base. The Black Hawks departed from Jalalabad thirty minutes later.

"OK, guys, we're on standby... I'm going to squeeze in a quick nine... if they're going to take off before I finish up, text me and I'l haul ### back here. Cool? All right, get my bag, let's move. God, I hope Boehner isn't on the tee, that guy's slow as ####."

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Nine years, seven months, and twenty days after September 11th, an American was a trigger pull from ending bin Laden’s life. The first round, a 5.56-mm. bullet, struck bin Laden in the chest. As he fell backward, the SEAL fired a second round into his head, just above his left eye. On his radio, he reported, “For God and country—Geronimo, Geronimo, Geronimo.”

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He had been developing plans to assassinate Obama and Petraeus, to pull off an extravagant September 11th anniversary attack, and to attack American trains.

I have always been worried every 9/11 to wake up and hear reports of some attack. Another worry that I have had is the soft targets like trains or an assault on a mall. I don't think they could have pulled off an assassination of Obama or Petraeus but these have scared the poo out of me for years.
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/43983953#43983953

Video story on the raid with some new details that I hadn't heard as of yet. I haven't read this article yet so they may be in there but what made may jaw drop (as if the whole thing wasn't spectacular enough) were the actions of the first SEAL through the door when they spotted bin Laden. Real happy these guys play on our team.

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/43983953#43983953

Video story on the raid with some new details that I hadn't heard as of yet. I haven't read this article yet so they may be in there but what made may jaw drop (as if the whole thing wasn't spectacular enough) were the actions of the first SEAL through the door when they spotted bin Laden. Real happy these guys play on our team.

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The Americans hurried toward the bedroom door. The first SEAL pushed it open. Two of bin Laden’s wives had placed themselves in front of him. Amal al-Fatah, bin Laden’s fifth wife, was screaming in Arabic. She motioned as if she were going to charge; the SEAL lowered his sights and shot her once, in the calf. Fearing that one or both women were wearing suicide jackets, he stepped forward, wrapped them in a bear hug, and drove them aside. He would almost certainly have been killed had they blown themselves up, but by blanketing them he would have absorbed some of the blast and potentially saved the two SEALs behind him. In the end, neither woman was wearing an explosive vest.

A second SEAL stepped into the room and trained the infrared laser of his M4 on bin Laden’s chest. The Al Qaeda chief, who was wearing a tan shalwar kameez and a prayer cap on his head, froze; he was unarmed. “There was never any question of detaining or capturing him—it wasn’t a split-second decision. No one wanted detainees,” the special-operations officer told me. (The Administration maintains that had bin Laden immediately surrendered he could have been taken alive.) Nine years, seven months, and twenty days after September 11th, an American was a trigger pull from ending bin Laden’s life. The first round, a 5.56-mm. bullet, struck bin Laden in the chest. As he fell backward, the SEAL fired a second round into his head, just above his left eye. On his radio, he reported, “For God and country—Geronimo, Geronimo, Geronimo.” After a pause, he added, “Geronimo E.K.I.A.”—“enemy killed in action.”

Hearing this at the White House, Obama pursed his lips, and said solemnly, to no one in particular, “We got him.”

Relaxing his hold on bin Laden’s two wives, the first SEAL placed the women in flex cuffs and led them downstairs. Two of his colleagues, meanwhile, ran upstairs with a nylon body bag. They unfurled it, knelt down on either side of bin Laden, and placed the body inside the bag. Eighteen minutes had elapsed since the DEVGRU team landed. For the next twenty minutes, the mission shifted to an intelligence-gathering operation.

Four men scoured the second floor, plastic bags in hand, collecting flash drives, CDs, DVDs, and computer hardware from the room, which had served, in part, as bin Laden’s makeshift media studio. In the coming weeks, a C.I.A.-led task force examined the files and determined that bin Laden had remained far more involved in the operational activities of Al Qaeda than many American officials had thought. He had been developing plans to assassinate Obama and Petraeus, to pull off an extravagant September 11th anniversary attack, and to attack American trains. The SEALs also found an archive of digital pornography. “We find it on all these guys, whether they’re in Somalia, Iraq, or Afghanistan,” the special-operations officer said. Bin Laden’s gold-threaded robes, worn during his video addresses, hung behind a curtain in the media room.

Lot of good stuff in that story. Feels like it really takes off at about page 5/6 but its a fascinating read. I might need to subscribe to the New Yorker, feels like I am missing out.

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Next, the SEALs needed to destroy the damaged Black Hawk. The pilot, armed with a hammer that he kept for such situations, smashed the instrument panel, the radio, and the other classified fixtures inside the cockpit. Then the demolition unit took over. They placed explosives near the avionics system, the communications gear, the engine, and the rotor head. “You’re not going to hide the fact that it’s a helicopter,” the special-operations officer said. “But you want to make it unusable.” The SEALs placed extra C-4 charges under the carriage, rolled thermite grenades inside the copter’s body, and then backed up. Helo one burst into flames while the demolition team boarded the Chinook. The women and children, who were being left behind for the Pakistani authorities, looked puzzled, scared, and shocked as they watched the SEALs board the helicopters. Amal, bin Laden’s wife, continued her harangue. Then, as a giant fire burned inside the compound walls, the Americans flew away.

Awesome :thumbup:

I can just see these folks with a look of shock on their face.

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Love it. Even the dog is a bad mofo.

As James talked about the raid, he mentioned Cairo’s role. “There was a dog?” Obama interrupted. James nodded and said that Cairo was in an adjoining room, muzzled, at the request of the Secret Service.

“I want to meet that dog,” Obama said.

If you want to meet the dog, Mr. President, I advise you to bring treats,” James joked. Obama went over to pet Cairo, but the dog’s muzzle was left on.

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As a guy that leans right a lot I want to appluad the President for overseeing this and making this happen. As we get closer to marking 10 years since 9/11, this will help bring closure. Again I appluad the President for making this happen and all Americans should be proud of how he handled this once he got in the WH.

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Next, the SEALs needed to destroy the damaged Black Hawk. The pilot, armed with a hammer that he kept for such situations, smashed the instrument panel, the radio, and the other classified fixtures inside the cockpit. Then the demolition unit took over. They placed explosives near the avionics system, the communications gear, the engine, and the rotor head. “You’re not going to hide the fact that it’s a helicopter,” the special-operations officer said. “But you want to make it unusable.” The SEALs placed extra C-4 charges under the carriage, rolled thermite grenades inside the copter’s body, and then backed up. Helo one burst into flames while the demolition team boarded the Chinook. The women and children, who were being left behind for the Pakistani authorities, looked puzzled, scared, and shocked as they watched the SEALs board the helicopters. Amal, bin Laden’s wife, continued her harangue. Then, as a giant fire burned inside the compound walls, the Americans flew away.

Awesome :thumbup:

I can just see these folks with a look of shock on their face.

The first thing that popped into my head was the image of Keyser Soze turning around and walking away after he drops the cigarette in the gasoline.
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Terrific detail. My favorite was :

On the morning of Sunday, May 1st, White House officials cancelled scheduled visits, ordered sandwich platters from Costco, and transformed the Situation Room into a war room.

:lmao:

I emailed my buddy the same thing earlier...in that whole awesome article, that was the part I found to be the most amazing.
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Nine years, seven months, and twenty days after September 11th, an American was a trigger pull from ending bin Laden’s life. The first round, a 5.56-mm. bullet, struck bin Laden in the chest. As he fell backward, the SEAL fired a second round into his head, just above his left eye. On his radio, he reported, “For God and country—Geronimo, Geronimo, Geronimo.”

“For God and country—Geronimo, Geronimo, Geronimo.”

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Before the President returned to Washington, he posed for photographs with each team member and spoke with many of them, but he left one thing unsaid. He never asked who fired the kill shot, and the SEALs never volunteered to tell him.

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Bin Laden was believed to be about six feet four, but no one had a tape measure to confirm the body’s length. So one SEAL, who was six feet tall, lay beside the corpse: it measured roughly four inches longer than the American.

Wow.
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The part that caught my attention:

"Four months after Obama entered the White House, Leon Panetta, the director of the C.I.A., briefed the President on the agency’s latest programs and initiatives for tracking bin Laden. Obama was unimpressed. In June, 2009, he drafted a memo instructing Panetta to create a “detailed operation plan” for finding the Al Qaeda leader and to “ensure that we have expended every effort.” Most notably, the President intensified the C.I.A.’s classified drone program; there were more missile strikes inside Pakistan during Obama’s first year in office than in George W. Bush’s eight. The terrorists swiftly registered the impact: that July, CBS reported that a recent Al Qaeda communiqué had referred to “brave commanders” who had been “snatched away” and to “so many hidden homes [which] have been levelled.” The document blamed the “very grave” situation on spies who had “spread throughout the land like locusts.” Nevertheless, bin Laden’s trail remained cold."

Though one explanation could be that the capabilities of the drones have progressed exponentially, so it's possible that drones can do more/are more accurate then during Bush's term.

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Weird, this was posted yesterday and got no replies.

Posted this part elsewhere:

The C.I.A. intensified its intelligence-collection efforts, and, according to a recent report in the Guardian, a physician working for the agency conducted an immunization drive in Abbottabad, in the hope of acquiring DNA samples from bin Laden’s children. (No one in the compound ultimately received any immunizations.)

There's some controversy over whether the US should have gone this far, and whether after having done so if the US should have publicized the fact.

No One Is Immune

The CIA's fake vaccination program in Pakistan reveals the moral bankruptcy of American spooks.

By Tom Scocca

Posted Monday, July 25, 2011, at 4:08 PM ET

This was one story from our open-ended war: Last year, in a remote area of Afghanistan, 10 medical aid workers were ambushed and killed by militants. The New York Times Magazine and Slate published moving remembrances of some of the victims: Karen Woo, a British doctor who wanted to make a documentary about the lives of people in remote areas of Afghanistan; Tom Little and Dan Terry, who had spent decades bringing health care and other aid to the country. President Obama awarded Little the Presidential Medal of Freedom at a posthumous ceremony earlier this year. After the killings, the Taliban reportedly added a final insult. The victims, they claimed, were not really medical personnel. They were spies "on a clandestine mission against mujahideen in the area."

Only: How do we know this was a vicious insult? The question should be obscene and unthinkable. Yet this month, the Obama administration admitted that the Central Intelligence Agency had staged a fake vaccination campaign in Pakistan as American intelligence closed in on Osama Bin Laden. Health care workers were used on a clandestine mission—not in the paranoid imagination of America-hating fanatics but as part of the deliberate policy of the United States government.

Basically, Red Cross workers and health service volunteers could now be valid military targets for Al Qaeda, which also risks the further spread of polio and hepatitis in those parts of the world.
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Weird, this was posted yesterday and got no replies.

Posted this part elsewhere:

The C.I.A. intensified its intelligence-collection efforts, and, according to a recent report in the Guardian, a physician working for the agency conducted an immunization drive in Abbottabad, in the hope of acquiring DNA samples from bin Laden’s children. (No one in the compound ultimately received any immunizations.)

There's some controversy over whether the US should have gone this far, and whether after having done so if the US should have publicized the fact.

No One Is Immune

The CIA's fake vaccination program in Pakistan reveals the moral bankruptcy of American spooks.

By Tom Scocca

Posted Monday, July 25, 2011, at 4:08 PM ET

This was one story from our open-ended war: Last year, in a remote area of Afghanistan, 10 medical aid workers were ambushed and killed by militants. The New York Times Magazine and Slate published moving remembrances of some of the victims: Karen Woo, a British doctor who wanted to make a documentary about the lives of people in remote areas of Afghanistan; Tom Little and Dan Terry, who had spent decades bringing health care and other aid to the country. President Obama awarded Little the Presidential Medal of Freedom at a posthumous ceremony earlier this year. After the killings, the Taliban reportedly added a final insult. The victims, they claimed, were not really medical personnel. They were spies "on a clandestine mission against mujahideen in the area."

Only: How do we know this was a vicious insult? The question should be obscene and unthinkable. Yet this month, the Obama administration admitted that the Central Intelligence Agency had staged a fake vaccination campaign in Pakistan as American intelligence closed in on Osama Bin Laden. Health care workers were used on a clandestine mission—not in the paranoid imagination of America-hating fanatics but as part of the deliberate policy of the United States government.

Basically, Red Cross workers and health service volunteers could now be valid military targets for Al Qaeda, which also risks the further spread of polio and hepatitis in those parts of the world.
I was really shocked they publicized this aspect of things.
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He likened the routine of evening raids to “mowing the lawn.”

:shock::bow:

These guys are so fn bad###. :thumbup:

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The Americans hurried toward the bedroom door. The first SEAL pushed it open. Two of bin Laden’s wives had placed themselves in front of him. Amal al-Fatah, bin Laden’s fifth wife, was screaming in Arabic. She motioned as if she were going to charge; the SEAL lowered his sights and shot her once, in the calf. Fearing that one or both women were wearing suicide jackets, he stepped forward, wrapped them in a bear hug, and drove them aside. He would almost certainly have been killed had they blown themselves up, but by blanketing them he would have absorbed some of the blast and potentially saved the two SEALs behind him. In the end, neither woman was wearing an explosive vest.

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Weird, this was posted yesterday and got no replies.

Posted this part elsewhere:

The C.I.A. intensified its intelligence-collection efforts, and, according to a recent report in the Guardian, a physician working for the agency conducted an immunization drive in Abbottabad, in the hope of acquiring DNA samples from bin Laden’s children. (No one in the compound ultimately received any immunizations.)

There's some controversy over whether the US should have gone this far, and whether after having done so if the US should have publicized the fact.

No One Is Immune

The CIA's fake vaccination program in Pakistan reveals the moral bankruptcy of American spooks.

By Tom Scocca

Posted Monday, July 25, 2011, at 4:08 PM ET

This was one story from our open-ended war: Last year, in a remote area of Afghanistan, 10 medical aid workers were ambushed and killed by militants. The New York Times Magazine and Slate published moving remembrances of some of the victims: Karen Woo, a British doctor who wanted to make a documentary about the lives of people in remote areas of Afghanistan; Tom Little and Dan Terry, who had spent decades bringing health care and other aid to the country. President Obama awarded Little the Presidential Medal of Freedom at a posthumous ceremony earlier this year. After the killings, the Taliban reportedly added a final insult. The victims, they claimed, were not really medical personnel. They were spies "on a clandestine mission against mujahideen in the area."

Only: How do we know this was a vicious insult? The question should be obscene and unthinkable. Yet this month, the Obama administration admitted that the Central Intelligence Agency had staged a fake vaccination campaign in Pakistan as American intelligence closed in on Osama Bin Laden. Health care workers were used on a clandestine mission—not in the paranoid imagination of America-hating fanatics but as part of the deliberate policy of the United States government.

Basically, Red Cross workers and health service volunteers could now be valid military targets for Al Qaeda, which also risks the further spread of polio and hepatitis in those parts of the world.

Really interesting stuff here. Thanks.

After reading this I decided it was "worth it" and spent ten minutes writing up a post explaining my position, and then deleted it because by the time I finished writing it I was no longer convinced that it was. Incredibly tough call.

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Weird, this was posted yesterday and got no replies.

Posted this part elsewhere:

The C.I.A. intensified its intelligence-collection efforts, and, according to a recent report in the Guardian, a physician working for the agency conducted an immunization drive in Abbottabad, in the hope of acquiring DNA samples from bin Laden’s children. (No one in the compound ultimately received any immunizations.)

There's some controversy over whether the US should have gone this far, and whether after having done so if the US should have publicized the fact.

No One Is Immune

The CIA's fake vaccination program in Pakistan reveals the moral bankruptcy of American spooks.

By Tom Scocca

Posted Monday, July 25, 2011, at 4:08 PM ET

This was one story from our open-ended war: Last year, in a remote area of Afghanistan, 10 medical aid workers were ambushed and killed by militants. The New York Times Magazine and Slate published moving remembrances of some of the victims: Karen Woo, a British doctor who wanted to make a documentary about the lives of people in remote areas of Afghanistan; Tom Little and Dan Terry, who had spent decades bringing health care and other aid to the country. President Obama awarded Little the Presidential Medal of Freedom at a posthumous ceremony earlier this year. After the killings, the Taliban reportedly added a final insult. The victims, they claimed, were not really medical personnel. They were spies "on a clandestine mission against mujahideen in the area."

Only: How do we know this was a vicious insult? The question should be obscene and unthinkable. Yet this month, the Obama administration admitted that the Central Intelligence Agency had staged a fake vaccination campaign in Pakistan as American intelligence closed in on Osama Bin Laden. Health care workers were used on a clandestine mission—not in the paranoid imagination of America-hating fanatics but as part of the deliberate policy of the United States government.

Basically, Red Cross workers and health service volunteers could now be valid military targets for Al Qaeda, which also risks the further spread of polio and hepatitis in those parts of the world.

Really interesting stuff here. Thanks.

After reading this I decided it was "worth it" and spent ten minutes writing up a post explaining my position, and then deleted it because by the time I finished writing it I was no longer convinced that it was. Incredibly tough call.

Serious question...does the fact that there were ulterior motives at play in trying to gather the DNA mean that at the same time, real attempts at vaccinations weren't being performed?
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Weird, this was posted yesterday and got no replies.

Posted this part elsewhere:

The C.I.A. intensified its intelligence-collection efforts, and, according to a recent report in the Guardian, a physician working for the agency conducted an immunization drive in Abbottabad, in the hope of acquiring DNA samples from bin Laden’s children. (No one in the compound ultimately received any immunizations.)

There's some controversy over whether the US should have gone this far, and whether after having done so if the US should have publicized the fact.

No One Is Immune

The CIA's fake vaccination program in Pakistan reveals the moral bankruptcy of American spooks.

By Tom Scocca

Posted Monday, July 25, 2011, at 4:08 PM ET

This was one story from our open-ended war: Last year, in a remote area of Afghanistan, 10 medical aid workers were ambushed and killed by militants. The New York Times Magazine and Slate published moving remembrances of some of the victims: Karen Woo, a British doctor who wanted to make a documentary about the lives of people in remote areas of Afghanistan; Tom Little and Dan Terry, who had spent decades bringing health care and other aid to the country. President Obama awarded Little the Presidential Medal of Freedom at a posthumous ceremony earlier this year. After the killings, the Taliban reportedly added a final insult. The victims, they claimed, were not really medical personnel. They were spies "on a clandestine mission against mujahideen in the area."

Only: How do we know this was a vicious insult? The question should be obscene and unthinkable. Yet this month, the Obama administration admitted that the Central Intelligence Agency had staged a fake vaccination campaign in Pakistan as American intelligence closed in on Osama Bin Laden. Health care workers were used on a clandestine mission—not in the paranoid imagination of America-hating fanatics but as part of the deliberate policy of the United States government.

Basically, Red Cross workers and health service volunteers could now be valid military targets for Al Qaeda, which also risks the further spread of polio and hepatitis in those parts of the world.

Really interesting stuff here. Thanks.

After reading this I decided it was "worth it" and spent ten minutes writing up a post explaining my position, and then deleted it because by the time I finished writing it I was no longer convinced that it was. Incredibly tough call.

Serious question...does the fact that there were ulterior motives at play in trying to gather the DNA mean that at the same time, real attempts at vaccinations weren't being performed?
Not necessarily, but it still compromises any such mission.
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Serious question...does the fact that there were ulterior motives at play in trying to gather the DNA mean that at the same time, real attempts at vaccinations weren't being performed?

I don't know the answer to that. But the article mentions that since the news of the fake campaign got out, Pakistan temporarily suspended a real vaccination program because of the threat to the doctors... it couldn't assure their safety and it took a while to convince locals that the doctors weren't CIA. It also says that the vaccination effort in Abbottabad should have been a three-course dose, but only one round of shots were given to children as cover, then efforts were abandoned so they could focus on the bin Laden compound.
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The Americans hurried toward the bedroom door. The first SEAL pushed it open. Two of bin Ladens wives had placed themselves in front of him. Amal al-Fatah, bin Ladens fifth wife, was screaming in Arabic. She motioned as if she were going to charge; the SEAL lowered his sights and shot her once, in the calf. Fearing that one or both women were wearing suicide jackets, he stepped forward, wrapped them in a bear hug, and drove them aside. He would almost certainly have been killed had they blown themselves up, but by blanketing them he would have absorbed some of the blast and potentially saved the two SEALs behind him. In the end, neither woman was wearing an explosive vest.

Some of these details are amazing.
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Awe man, a buddy of mine sent me an email right after it happened detailing how the military guys went over Obama's head to accomplish this. The blog post detailed how they only informed Obama after the ball was rolling, and how he was surprised to hear the news.My buddy is not going to like this. ;)

Are you telling me that americaisforamericanpeople.blogspot.com is a more credible source than The New Yorker?
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Awe man, a buddy of mine sent me an email right after it happened detailing how the military guys went over Obama's head to accomplish this. The blog post detailed how they only informed Obama after the ball was rolling, and how he was surprised to hear the news.My buddy is not going to like this. ;)

Your friend thought that the military unilaterally carried out a high-profile raid (or more accurately, an assassination) deep inside a sovereign nation and about a block away from a military base without informing the President ahead of time?
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The one portion of the article that made me chuckle, and has not been mentioned yet...

In this day and age, with all of the technology, weapons, and explosives that we have, the pilot carries a hammer to smash the instrument console.

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The raiding team then presented the President with an American flag that had been on board the rescue Chinook. Measuring three feet by five, the flag had been stretched, ironed, and framed. The SEALs and the pilots had signed it on the back; an inscription on the front read, “From the Joint Task Force Operation Neptune’s Spear, 01 May 2011: ‘For God and country. Geronimo.’ ”

Here's a great way to reduce our debt. How much would this fetch via auction?Not that Obama or anyone else would ever give up such an awesome gift, but can you imagine the crazy bidding for this?
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