Jerry Sandusky accused of child molestation (1 Viewer)

Embattled former defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky continued to be a presence around the Penn State football program up to his arrest Saturday on child molestation charges, including working out multiple times in the teamâs weight room just last week, according to multiple sources within the football program.

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"I wish I were dead.'' — Jerry Sandusky in May 1998.

Two detectives from local police agencies overheard former Penn State defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky admit to the mother of an 11-year-old boy that Sandusky gave her son a naked bear hug while taking a shower in a campus locker room.

"I was wrong," Sandusky said, according to a Pennsylvania grand jury document released Saturday. "I wish I could get forgiveness. I wish I were dead."

That cry for help came 13 years ago. Nobody heard it.

For reasons that remain inexplicable, no charges were filed after that investigation and nothing changed, so Sandusky was free to allegedly prey on more innocent boys.

For reasons Joe Paterno will have to live with forever, Sandusky kept his job and JoePa kept wearing his trademark, thick-rimmed glasses that apparently allowed him to see only what he wanted.

Sandusky, 67, was released on $100,000 bail after being arraigned on 40 criminal counts related to charges he sexually abused eight boys. Penn State athletic director Tim Curley and university administrator Gary Schultz face counts of perjury and failure to report child abuse. Significant by his absence in the indictment is Paterno, the most powerful man on campus who might have stopped the accused serial pedophile on his staff by working more aggressively with police.

Neither Paterno nor anybody else in authority did. As a result, Happy Valley has become Creepy Valley.

Paterno's head-in-the-sand approach permitted Sandusky to take along a teenager identified as Victim 4 on bowl trips the two football seasons following the '98 investigation, including to San Antonio for the 1999 Alamo Bowl in plain view of university personnel. It was in a hotel room there, according to the attorney general's disturbing 23-page "finding of fact," that Sandusky threatened to send the boy home if he didn't succumb to his sexual advances. Sick.

Undeterred, Sandusky continued the pattern after retiring when, in 2000, a janitor reported to a superior seeing the coach alone in the showers of the football facility with a young boy — Victim 8. No charges resulted and Sandusky still enjoyed his all-access privileges on campus.

In a town fueled by college football, nobody dared disgrace an acolyte of Paterno, especially a man who opened a home for troubled boys in 1977 under the ruse he wanted to help them.

Excuse me while I puke.

All the prior knowledge of Sandusky's predatory tendencies only makes a March 2002 incident, the one with facts damning enough to end the Paterno Era, the hardest to fathom. Around 9:30 on a Friday night, a Penn State graduate assistant walked into the football locker room where he observed a boy he guessed was 10 being sexually assulted by Sandusky.

The shocked grad assistant quickly left, called his dad and went to Paterno's house the next morning. Paterno waited 24 hours to meet with Curley. The grand jury narrative doesn't mention Paterno urgently calling law enforcement or trying to learn who the boy was so he could inform his parents. It describes Paterno, then 75, following protocol. Not until a week and a half later was the graduate assistant summoned to retell the horrific tale to Curley and Schultz.

Paterno dodged legal jeopardy by reporting the allegation to his superior. Ethically, Paterno stained a Hall of Fame career by not getting police involved after hearing a friend and ex-colleague with a history of allegations accused of raping a boy no older than one of JoePa's grandsons.

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'Premier said:

How do Penn State fans go to the game this weekend? You have to draw the line somewhere right?I'm an alum, a huge Nole fan and love Bobby Bowden...similar story comes out and I think I'd have to bail.

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'Aaron Rudnicki said:

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"I wish I were dead.'' — Jerry Sandusky in May 1998.Two detectives from local police agencies overheard former Penn State defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky admit to the mother of an 11-year-old boy that Sandusky gave her son a naked bear hug while taking a shower in a campus locker room."I was wrong," Sandusky said, according to a Pennsylvania grand jury document released Saturday. "I wish I could get forgiveness. I wish I were dead."That cry for help came 13 years ago. Nobody heard it.For reasons that remain inexplicable, no charges were filed after that investigation and nothing changed, so Sandusky was free to allegedly prey on more innocent boys.For reasons Joe Paterno will have to live with forever, Sandusky kept his job and JoePa kept wearing his trademark, thick-rimmed glasses that apparently allowed him to see only what he wanted.Sandusky, 67, was released on $100,000 bail after being arraigned on 40 criminal counts related to charges he sexually abused eight boys. Penn State athletic director Tim Curley and university administrator Gary Schultz face counts of perjury and failure to report child abuse. Significant by his absence in the indictment is Paterno, the most powerful man on campus who might have stopped the accused serial pedophile on his staff by working more aggressively with police.Neither Paterno nor anybody else in authority did. As a result, Happy Valley has become Creepy Valley.Paterno's head-in-the-sand approach permitted Sandusky to take along a teenager identified as Victim 4 on bowl trips the two football seasons following the '98 investigation, including to San Antonio for the 1999 Alamo Bowl in plain view of university personnel. It was in a hotel room there, according to the attorney general's disturbing 23-page "finding of fact," that Sandusky threatened to send the boy home if he didn't succumb to his sexual advances. Sick.Undeterred, Sandusky continued the pattern after retiring when, in 2000, a janitor reported to a superior seeing the coach alone in the showers of the football facility with a young boy — Victim 8. No charges resulted and Sandusky still enjoyed his all-access privileges on campus.In a town fueled by college football, nobody dared disgrace an acolyte of Paterno, especially a man who opened a home for troubled boys in 1977 under the ruse he wanted to help them.Excuse me while I puke.All the prior knowledge of Sandusky's predatory tendencies only makes a March 2002 incident, the one with facts damning enough to end the Paterno Era, the hardest to fathom. Around 9:30 on a Friday night, a Penn State graduate assistant walked into the football locker room where he observed a boy he guessed was 10 being sexually assulted by Sandusky.The shocked grad assistant quickly left, called his dad and went to Paterno's house the next morning. Paterno waited 24 hours to meet with Curley. The grand jury narrative doesn't mention Paterno urgently calling law enforcement or trying to learn who the boy was so he could inform his parents. It describes Paterno, then 75, following protocol. Not until a week and a half later was the graduate assistant summoned to retell the horrific tale to Curley and Schultz.Paterno dodged legal jeopardy by reporting the allegation to his superior. Ethically, Paterno stained a Hall of Fame career by not getting police involved after hearing a friend and ex-colleague with a history of allegations accused of raping a boy no older than one of JoePa's grandsons.

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'Aaron Rudnicki said:

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"I wish I were dead.'' — Jerry Sandusky in May 1998.

Two detectives from local police agencies overheard former Penn State defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky admit to the mother of an 11-year-old boy that Sandusky gave her son a naked bear hug while taking a shower in a campus locker room.

"I was wrong," Sandusky said, according to a Pennsylvania grand jury document released Saturday. "I wish I could get forgiveness. I wish I were dead."

That cry for help came 13 years ago. Nobody heard it.

For reasons that remain inexplicable, no charges were filed after that investigation and nothing changed, so Sandusky was free to allegedly prey on more innocent boys.

For reasons Joe Paterno will have to live with forever, Sandusky kept his job and JoePa kept wearing his trademark, thick-rimmed glasses that apparently allowed him to see only what he wanted.

Sandusky, 67, was released on $100,000 bail after being arraigned on 40 criminal counts related to charges he sexually abused eight boys. Penn State athletic director Tim Curley and university administrator Gary Schultz face counts of perjury and failure to report child abuse. Significant by his absence in the indictment is Paterno, the most powerful man on campus who might have stopped the accused serial pedophile on his staff by working more aggressively with police.

Neither Paterno nor anybody else in authority did. As a result, Happy Valley has become Creepy Valley.

Paterno's head-in-the-sand approach permitted Sandusky to take along a teenager identified as Victim 4 on bowl trips the two football seasons following the '98 investigation, including to San Antonio for the 1999 Alamo Bowl in plain view of university personnel. It was in a hotel room there, according to the attorney general's disturbing 23-page "finding of fact," that Sandusky threatened to send the boy home if he didn't succumb to his sexual advances. Sick.

Undeterred, Sandusky continued the pattern after retiring when, in 2000, a janitor reported to a superior seeing the coach alone in the showers of the football facility with a young boy — Victim 8. No charges resulted and Sandusky still enjoyed his all-access privileges on campus.

In a town fueled by college football, nobody dared disgrace an acolyte of Paterno, especially a man who opened a home for troubled boys in 1977 under the ruse he wanted to help them.

Excuse me while I puke.

All the prior knowledge of Sandusky's predatory tendencies only makes a March 2002 incident, the one with facts damning enough to end the Paterno Era, the hardest to fathom. Around 9:30 on a Friday night, a Penn State graduate assistant walked into the football locker room where he observed a boy he guessed was 10 being sexually assulted by Sandusky.

The shocked grad assistant quickly left, called his dad and went to Paterno's house the next morning. Paterno waited 24 hours to meet with Curley. The grand jury narrative doesn't mention Paterno urgently calling law enforcement or trying to learn who the boy was so he could inform his parents. It describes Paterno, then 75, following protocol. Not until a week and a half later was the graduate assistant summoned to retell the horrific tale to Curley and Schultz.

Paterno dodged legal jeopardy by reporting the allegation to his superior. Ethically, Paterno stained a Hall of Fame career by not getting police involved after hearing a friend and ex-colleague with a history of allegations accused of raping a boy no older than one of JoePa's grandsons.

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'SwampDawg said:

I've read Schultz was a VP but also that he was in charge of the Penn State police as well. If that's the case McQueary did tell authorities, on a campus the size of Penn State the school cops are real cops not rent a cops like my little division 2 school had. McQueary is the only one (if in fact Schultz does oversee the police dept.) that it does seem like did the right thing, he told his boss (it happened in their work place and involved a former employee), he then related the story to the AD and to the man that oversees the police force. I guess he could have went to the media or the state police as well but we don't know what he was told, maybe he was told it was being investigated by Schultz.

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the thing that looks bad for McQueary is if you report this up through the chain, and see nothing is done, and then chose to stay on with that program and get promoted up through the ranks knowing nothing was done, what does that say about you?

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Not a whole lot. I can't imagine being an eyewitness to something like that, reporting it, then seeing nothing done at all to stop it. Then actually witness the perp continue to associate with boys on the same grounds that you work, KNOWING that the horrific event you witnessed is probabaly continuing. Not sure how one can live with himself. Boggles my mind.

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i can't imagine EVER looking the rapist in the eye without wanting to do him sever bodliy harm, or loathing myself for not doing more

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'B-Deep said:

jesus it is hard to even comprehend this

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'CrossEyed said:

'whoknew said:

'Hedgehog said:

'CrossEyed said:

They all need to go, including Spanier. I can't believe that in the middle of all of these accusations that he would be stupid enough to express his "unconditional support".

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- I had to read that twice when I saw it....he should have made a neutral statement at best....this whole place is going to be taken down in this....no way anyone survives. Can you imagine sending your 18 your old into this type of atmosphere?

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Obviously this is WAY WAY less important - but how does PSU recruit right now? What parent would send their kid to play for JoePa right now?

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"Our coaches prefer them really young, so your son will be safe."

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'Leeroy Jenkins said:

I wonder who all was aware of the 1998-99 complaint and investigation. That would be telling I believe. Otherwise, nobody would really think anything of having these boys aroud given that Sandusky and Second Mile probably produced a lot of helpful uplifting situations since 1977 as well, otherwise the organization never would have lasted so long. I'm sure the players and other coaches enjoyed helping troubled youth etc. Man, what a slap in the face of all that is good in the world. The Dahmer treatment will be too kind for Sandusky in jail.

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'Leeroy Jenkins said:

I wonder who all was aware of the 1998-99 complaint and investigation. That would be telling I believe. Otherwise, nobody would really think anything of having these boys aroud given that Sandusky and Second Mile probably produced a lot of helpful uplifting situations since 1977 as well, otherwise the organization never would have lasted so long. I'm sure the players and other coaches enjoyed helping troubled youth etc. Man, what a slap in the face of all that is good in the world. The Dahmer treatment will be too kind for Sandusky in jail.

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if anyone thinks that there was an investigation of his defensive coordinator, and that unrelated to that Joepa just happened to tell him the next year he would never be head coach and he retired, all with joepa having no idea that the investigation ever occurred then i have some invisible helper monkeys i would like to sell you

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'Johnnymac said:

It sure looks like JoePa is in the clear. I don't think he should be though. How could he not report it to the police after seeing that nothing was happening to this guy?? It's inexcuseable. This story has a real chance of ruining his reputation as well, and I'm not sure that it shouldn't. The grand jury report is disgusting. I don't see how this guy could spend at least 10 years doing this crap after numerous people reported his activities. This is way worse than what Tressel did, and he got fired for it.

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'Sigmund Bloom said:

I continue to be amazed that no one at PSU is taking responsibility for this... the association between the University and Pedophilia grows stronger by the second as the only statement out there by Spanier (representing the University) is to stand behind his employees instead of the victims. The P in PSU stands for Pedophile Protectors now. The image of the football program has been tarnished beyond repair, they have to burn it to the ground and start over now... the shocking thing is that the president of the University can not see that his actions are causing that image to encompass the entire university now. It is ironic how all of these actions taken to preserve the image of PSU and their football program have now made it more vilified than if we found out they were fixing games, have damaged it beyond recognition. Let that be a lesson to us all...

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'shader said:

Heck, if someone came to me with an accusation of one of my guys, I wouldn't immediately pick up the phone and call the police. I'd take it to HR and let them handle it.

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'shader said:

I'm not sure what to think regarding Paterno.

If he does what he's supposed to do and alerts the proper authorities, then they tell him that they have investigated it and found the grounds baseless, then I don't have much of a problem with it.

But this is just the beginning.

In these things, usually more facts start coming out. Probably too soon to villify or exonerate JoePa. Heck, if someone came to me with an accusation of one of my guys, I wouldn't immediately pick up the phone and call the police. I'd take it to HR and let them handle it.

But the key is that I would check back with whomever told me. If I asked the person that talked to me a month later if anything was done and he said that nothing was done...then I'd probably try to get involved more.

But still, just too few facts to make a definitive judgment other than Sandusky is a horrible guy.

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The damage control began in earnest Sunday night. The lawyering. The spin. The sudden return to retirement; the midnight administrative leave. The Nixonian press release. Everyone "shocked." Everyone "deeply troubled."If true, the staggering liability. If true, the panicked cover-up.If true. "We were all fooled."By the time you read this, Joe Paterno might have resigned. Or worse yet, not resigned. Former Penn State defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky has been indicted on scores of counts of felony sexual abuse of minor boys. Penn State officials have been indicted and charged with perjury. Read about it here and here and here and here.If true? Another American tragedy. If true? Another abject failure of moral obligation. And if true, the story for as long as it lasts -- 24 more hours or the next hundred years -- will be a question: "What did Joe know, and when did Joe know it?"In fairness then, the entirety of his statement:"If true, the nature and amount of charges made are very shocking to me and all Penn Staters. While I did what I was supposed to with the one charge brought to my attention, like anyone else involved I can't help but be deeply saddened these matters are alleged to have occurred."Sue and I have devoted our lives to helping young people reach their potential. The fact that someone we thought we knew might have harmed young people to this extent is deeply troubling. If this is true we were all fooled, along with scores of professionals trained in such things, and we grieve for the victims and their families. They are in our prayers."As my grand jury testimony stated, I was informed in 2002 by an assistant coach that he had witnessed an incident in the shower of our locker room facility. It was obvious that the witness was distraught over what he saw, but he at no time related to me the very specific actions contained in the Grand Jury report. Regardless, it was clear that the witness saw something inappropriate involving Mr. Sandusky. As Coach Sandusky was retired from our coaching staff at that time, I referred the matter to university administrators."I understand that people are upset and angry, but let's be fair and let the legal process unfold. In the meantime I would ask all Penn Staters to continue to trust in what that name represents, continue to pursue their lives every day with high ideals and not let these events shake their beliefs nor who they are."[+] EnlargePaternoJustin K. Aller/Getty ImagesHead coaches get the glory of winning, but they're also responsible for the shortcomings of their program.In other words -- If True -- I didn't know anything. Once informed of something, I did the minimum: I kicked it up the chain, looked away and chose never to think of it again.If Paterno knew something and did nothing, he's an accessory. If he didn't know, he should have known. Such are the burdens of omniscience as understood by the cult of the Division I football coach.If true, what did Joe know, and when did he know it?The failure here is complete. Utter. The failure of the institution and the failure of the individual. The failure of the community. The failure of common decency.If true? Your failure. My failure. We didn't keep our children safe.What did Joe know, and when did Joe know it?The truth is a horror story. If true.

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'shader said:

I'm being serious here..Is there a chance Joe Pa was just too old? I mean we always joked about how he is just a figurehead at the university...Sometimes old people truly don't know what's going on underneath them. Unless I hear the details of the conversation between Joe and the person that alerted him, I'll be hesitant to blame him.

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'Joseph said:

'shader said:

I'm being serious here..Is there a chance Joe Pa was just too old? I mean we always joked about how he is just a figurehead at the university...Sometimes old people truly don't know what's going on underneath them. Unless I hear the details of the conversation between Joe and the person that alerted him, I'll be hesitant to blame him.

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Sadly, that's probably the "explanation" that makes him look best.

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'JZilla said:

'shader said:

Heck, if someone came to me with an accusation of one of my guys, I wouldn't immediately pick up the phone and call the police. I'd take it to HR and let them handle it.

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Rape? Really?IMO the only people qualified to handle this would have been the police. Which is why if there's any justice, Joe will exit in disgrace before the end of the week.

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'Sconch said:

'Joseph said:

'shader said:

I'm being serious here..Is there a chance Joe Pa was just too old? I mean we always joked about how he is just a figurehead at the university...Sometimes old people truly don't know what's going on underneath them. Unless I hear the details of the conversation between Joe and the person that alerted him, I'll be hesitant to blame him.

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Sadly, that's probably the "explanation" that makes him look best.

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I was thinking the same thing BUT you could always argue that he's apparently lucid enough to still be the HC of a D1 football program.

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'shader said:

'JZilla said:

'shader said:

Heck, if someone came to me with an accusation of one of my guys, I wouldn't immediately pick up the phone and call the police. I'd take it to HR and let them handle it.

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Rape? Really?IMO the only people qualified to handle this would have been the police. Which is why if there's any justice, Joe will exit in disgrace before the end of the week.

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I guess it depends on the details and thats my point. If someone said "I was raped by X", I'd say "lets go to the police".If someone says " I saw something disturbing", I'd say "lets go talk to HR".

A lot depends on the details of what was brought to me, which is what none of us know regarding Paterno.

The more I think about it, the more I think Paterno should have done more though, which is why I wonder if he was just too old to handle it? Who knows, I might be in denial. He seems like such a consumate professional and a guy with lots of integrity. Just shocking.

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'Sconch said:

'Joseph said:

'shader said:

I'm being serious here..Is there a chance Joe Pa was just too old? I mean we always joked about how he is just a figurehead at the university...Sometimes old people truly don't know what's going on underneath them. Unless I hear the details of the conversation between Joe and the person that alerted him, I'll be hesitant to blame him.

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Sadly, that's probably the "explanation" that makes him look best.

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I was thinking the same thing BUT you could always argue that he's apparently lucid enough to still be the HC of a D1 football program.

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'Joseph said:

'shader said:

I'm being serious here..Is there a chance Joe Pa was just too old? I mean we always joked about how he is just a figurehead at the university...Sometimes old people truly don't know what's going on underneath them. Unless I hear the details of the conversation between Joe and the person that alerted him, I'll be hesitant to blame him.

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Sadly, that's probably the "explanation" that makes him look best.

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'Aaron Rudnicki said:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/ct-spt-1107-haugh-penn-state--20111107,0,2324737.column

"I wish I were dead.'' — Jerry Sandusky in May 1998.Two detectives from local police agencies overheard former Penn State defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky admit to the mother of an 11-year-old boy that Sandusky gave her son a naked bear hug while taking a shower in a campus locker room."I was wrong," Sandusky said, according to a Pennsylvania grand jury document released Saturday. "I wish I could get forgiveness. I wish I were dead."That cry for help came 13 years ago. Nobody heard it.For reasons that remain inexplicable, no charges were filed after that investigation and nothing changed, so Sandusky was free to allegedly prey on more innocent boys.For reasons Joe Paterno will have to live with forever, Sandusky kept his job and JoePa kept wearing his trademark, thick-rimmed glasses that apparently allowed him to see only what he wanted.Sandusky, 67, was released on $100,000 bail after being arraigned on 40 criminal counts related to charges he sexually abused eight boys. Penn State athletic director Tim Curley and university administrator Gary Schultz face counts of perjury and failure to report child abuse. Significant by his absence in the indictment is Paterno, the most powerful man on campus who might have stopped the accused serial pedophile on his staff by working more aggressively with police.Neither Paterno nor anybody else in authority did. As a result, Happy Valley has become Creepy Valley.Paterno's head-in-the-sand approach permitted Sandusky to take along a teenager identified as Victim 4 on bowl trips the two football seasons following the '98 investigation, including to San Antonio for the 1999 Alamo Bowl in plain view of university personnel. It was in a hotel room there, according to the attorney general's disturbing 23-page "finding of fact," that Sandusky threatened to send the boy home if he didn't succumb to his sexual advances. Sick.Undeterred, Sandusky continued the pattern after retiring when, in 2000, a janitor reported to a superior seeing the coach alone in the showers of the football facility with a young boy — Victim 8. No charges resulted and Sandusky still enjoyed his all-access privileges on campus.In a town fueled by college football, nobody dared disgrace an acolyte of Paterno, especially a man who opened a home for troubled boys in 1977 under the ruse he wanted to help them.Excuse me while I puke.All the prior knowledge of Sandusky's predatory tendencies only makes a March 2002 incident, the one with facts damning enough to end the Paterno Era, the hardest to fathom. Around 9:30 on a Friday night, a Penn State graduate assistant walked into the football locker room where he observed a boy he guessed was 10 being sexually assulted by Sandusky.The shocked grad assistant quickly left, called his dad and went to Paterno's house the next morning. Paterno waited 24 hours to meet with Curley. The grand jury narrative doesn't mention Paterno urgently calling law enforcement or trying to learn who the boy was so he could inform his parents. It describes Paterno, then 75, following protocol. Not until a week and a half later was the graduate assistant summoned to retell the horrific tale to Curley and Schultz.Paterno dodged legal jeopardy by reporting the allegation to his superior. Ethically, Paterno stained a Hall of Fame career by not getting police involved after hearing a friend and ex-colleague with a history of allegations accused of raping a boy no older than one of JoePa's grandsons.

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'Aaron Rudnicki said:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/ct-spt-1107-haugh-penn-state--20111107,0,2324737.column

"I wish I were dead.'' — Jerry Sandusky in May 1998.Two detectives from local police agencies overheard former Penn State defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky admit to the mother of an 11-year-old boy that Sandusky gave her son a naked bear hug while taking a shower in a campus locker room."I was wrong," Sandusky said, according to a Pennsylvania grand jury document released Saturday. "I wish I could get forgiveness. I wish I were dead."That cry for help came 13 years ago. Nobody heard it.For reasons that remain inexplicable, no charges were filed after that investigation and nothing changed, so Sandusky was free to allegedly prey on more innocent boys.For reasons Joe Paterno will have to live with forever, Sandusky kept his job and JoePa kept wearing his trademark, thick-rimmed glasses that apparently allowed him to see only what he wanted.Sandusky, 67, was released on $100,000 bail after being arraigned on 40 criminal counts related to charges he sexually abused eight boys. Penn State athletic director Tim Curley and university administrator Gary Schultz face counts of perjury and failure to report child abuse. Significant by his absence in the indictment is Paterno, the most powerful man on campus who might have stopped the accused serial pedophile on his staff by working more aggressively with police.Neither Paterno nor anybody else in authority did. As a result, Happy Valley has become Creepy Valley.Paterno's head-in-the-sand approach permitted Sandusky to take along a teenager identified as Victim 4 on bowl trips the two football seasons following the '98 investigation, including to San Antonio for the 1999 Alamo Bowl in plain view of university personnel. It was in a hotel room there, according to the attorney general's disturbing 23-page "finding of fact," that Sandusky threatened to send the boy home if he didn't succumb to his sexual advances. Sick.Undeterred, Sandusky continued the pattern after retiring when, in 2000, a janitor reported to a superior seeing the coach alone in the showers of the football facility with a young boy — Victim 8. No charges resulted and Sandusky still enjoyed his all-access privileges on campus.In a town fueled by college football, nobody dared disgrace an acolyte of Paterno, especially a man who opened a home for troubled boys in 1977 under the ruse he wanted to help them.Excuse me while I puke.All the prior knowledge of Sandusky's predatory tendencies only makes a March 2002 incident, the one with facts damning enough to end the Paterno Era, the hardest to fathom. Around 9:30 on a Friday night, a Penn State graduate assistant walked into the football locker room where he observed a boy he guessed was 10 being sexually assulted by Sandusky.The shocked grad assistant quickly left, called his dad and went to Paterno's house the next morning. Paterno waited 24 hours to meet with Curley. The grand jury narrative doesn't mention Paterno urgently calling law enforcement or trying to learn who the boy was so he could inform his parents. It describes Paterno, then 75, following protocol. Not until a week and a half later was the graduate assistant summoned to retell the horrific tale to Curley and Schultz.Paterno dodged legal jeopardy by reporting the allegation to his superior. Ethically, Paterno stained a Hall of Fame career by not getting police involved after hearing a friend and ex-colleague with a history of allegations accused of raping a boy no older than one of JoePa's grandsons.

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$100K bail for 40 pedophile counts?!

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'Sconch said:

'mad sweeney said:

'Aaron Rudnicki said:

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"I wish I were dead.'' — Jerry Sandusky in May 1998.

Two detectives from local police agencies overheard former Penn State defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky admit to the mother of an 11-year-old boy that Sandusky gave her son a naked bear hug while taking a shower in a campus locker room.

"I was wrong," Sandusky said, according to a Pennsylvania grand jury document released Saturday. "I wish I could get forgiveness. I wish I were dead."

That cry for help came 13 years ago. Nobody heard it.

For reasons that remain inexplicable, no charges were filed after that investigation and nothing changed, so Sandusky was free to allegedly prey on more innocent boys.

For reasons Joe Paterno will have to live with forever, Sandusky kept his job and JoePa kept wearing his trademark, thick-rimmed glasses that apparently allowed him to see only what he wanted.

Sandusky, 67, was released on $100,000 bail after being arraigned on 40 criminal counts related to charges he sexually abused eight boys. Penn State athletic director Tim Curley and university administrator Gary Schultz face counts of perjury and failure to report child abuse. Significant by his absence in the indictment is Paterno, the most powerful man on campus who might have stopped the accused serial pedophile on his staff by working more aggressively with police.

Neither Paterno nor anybody else in authority did. As a result, Happy Valley has become Creepy Valley.

Paterno's head-in-the-sand approach permitted Sandusky to take along a teenager identified as Victim 4 on bowl trips the two football seasons following the '98 investigation, including to San Antonio for the 1999 Alamo Bowl in plain view of university personnel. It was in a hotel room there, according to the attorney general's disturbing 23-page "finding of fact," that Sandusky threatened to send the boy home if he didn't succumb to his sexual advances. Sick.

Undeterred, Sandusky continued the pattern after retiring when, in 2000, a janitor reported to a superior seeing the coach alone in the showers of the football facility with a young boy — Victim 8. No charges resulted and Sandusky still enjoyed his all-access privileges on campus.

In a town fueled by college football, nobody dared disgrace an acolyte of Paterno, especially a man who opened a home for troubled boys in 1977 under the ruse he wanted to help them.

Excuse me while I puke.

All the prior knowledge of Sandusky's predatory tendencies only makes a March 2002 incident, the one with facts damning enough to end the Paterno Era, the hardest to fathom. Around 9:30 on a Friday night, a Penn State graduate assistant walked into the football locker room where he observed a boy he guessed was 10 being sexually assulted by Sandusky.

The shocked grad assistant quickly left, called his dad and went to Paterno's house the next morning. Paterno waited 24 hours to meet with Curley. The grand jury narrative doesn't mention Paterno urgently calling law enforcement or trying to learn who the boy was so he could inform his parents. It describes Paterno, then 75, following protocol. Not until a week and a half later was the graduate assistant summoned to retell the horrific tale to Curley and Schultz.

Paterno dodged legal jeopardy by reporting the allegation to his superior. Ethically, Paterno stained a Hall of Fame career by not getting police involved after hearing a friend and ex-colleague with a history of allegations accused of raping a boy no older than one of JoePa's grandsons.

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$100K bail for 40 pedophile counts?!

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Judge is a season ticket holder?

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'shader said:

I'm not sure what to think regarding Paterno.

If he does what he's supposed to do and alerts the proper authorities, then they tell him that they have investigated it and found the grounds baseless, then I don't have much of a problem with it.

But this is just the beginning.

In these things, usually more facts start coming out. Probably too soon to villify or exonerate JoePa. Heck, if someone came to me with an accusation of one of my guys, I wouldn't immediately pick up the phone and call the police. I'd take it to HR and let them handle it.

But the key is that I would check back with whomever told me. If I asked the person that talked to me a month later if anything was done and he said that nothing was done...then I'd probably try to get involved more.

But still, just too few facts to make a definitive judgment other than Sandusky is a horrible guy.

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'timschochet said:

I freely admit to being a fan of Paterno; he's always been a hero of mine

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I was going to ask about this when you mentioned it earlier in the thread -- Why is he your hero? Because he coached football at the same place for a really long time? I don't view Paterno as one who has had an enduring effect on his sport (ala John Wooden). What makes him a hero? It seems to me that your hero-bar is set rather low.

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For me, he's been a hero because he did remind me of Wooden. Just always seemed like a very classy guy who ran a clean program for a long time. Seemed like a good guy. I admire class and decency. Until this incident, I had always related Paterno to those attributes.

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'LarryAllen said:

"Former Penn State coach Jerry Sandusky worked out at Penn State football facilities as recently as last week, Dan Wetzel of Yahoo! Sports reports."

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I wouldn't be surprised if he offs himself.

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'LarryAllen said:

"Former Penn State coach Jerry Sandusky worked out at Penn State football facilities as recently as last week, Dan Wetzel of Yahoo! Sports reports."

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I wouldn't be surprised if he offs himself.

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'The Football Freak said:

I'm wondering how the AG can witness a little boy being raped in the shower and simply close the door and wait a day to bring it to someone's attention? What kind of person can leave a child to that? What a horrible story all around.

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'mad sweeney said:

'LarryAllen said:

"Former Penn State coach Jerry Sandusky worked out at Penn State football facilities as recently as last week, Dan Wetzel of Yahoo! Sports reports."

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I wouldn't be surprised if he offs himself.

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That's why I'm extremely surprised by the bail amount. He should be without bail and on suicide watch. It also wouldn't surprise me, not that I am insinuating anything, but if he does, a suicide note would seem to clear JoPa.

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'Walton Goggins said:

I think it's very telling a coach (or ex coach) has no problem having sex with a 10 year old at the university. You would never do that unless you felt 100% sure that if you got caught nothing would happen. That's an extreme risk to take since in most cases you would likely get caught doing that and get reported to the cops as a result. If you know you can get away with it though then there's no risk. More to this story and I think the powers that be knows what went on (and more stories will come out) and kept it quiet in fear it would tarnish their reputation.

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'Hedgehog said:

Just finished arguing with 2 guys at the office - both defending JoePa saying he did what he was supposed to do undert he law....said he wasnt an eye witness so reported it as he should have end of story....bad guys are in the AD. The pro JoePa camps are going to beat this drum.

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