pantherclub
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Their response, or lack thereof tells me this goes up.
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Jerry Sandusky accused of child molestation (1 Viewer)
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beavers
Footballguy
I took your advice and the more I read, the more pissed I get and am amazed that Joe still has a job.
Jason Bourne
Footballguy
By all appearances, the student fans, and likely the players, want JoePa to stay in power.Long live the king!That is a good point. The inmates are in charge of the asylum. I hope I am wrong right now in thinking that the only ones with power right now might be the fans and the players. If Paterno and McQueary are at the game, I might puke.Who's gonna get rid of them? The ones guilty are the ones in charge.Think about it for a moment. How does Penn State go about "cleaning house"? Who has enough clout to pull that off that isn't involved in this?Registrar: "Ok, Mr. President, Joe Paterno, and all of your staff....pack up your things and get out"I just don't understand who at the University thinks it is a good idea to let Paterno and McQueary coach this weekend..There could be riots and fights in the stadium between our own fans.I'll bet ESPN is loving this one from a ratings perspective. At this point, how can you NOT watch?
comfortably numb
Footballguy
This just sound worse by the minute.When a woman is raped, it is the breaking lead in a NY news station with where the incident happened, a sketch ID of the suspect...and a number for anyone with information to call the number on the screen.We know the suspect, in fact, he is free as of now to rape again if he wants.I don't know if there is any legal distinction between rape and sexual assault, but these kids were violated in the worse way.Sexual assault can be groping in some peoples mind.language is extremely important here. Child can not give effective consent to any sexual contact with adults. ANY sexual activity between a child and adult is rape, period. The practice of using euphemisms only helps create a situation where a serial child rapist can be caught in the act and allowed to continue their heinous practices.
Parrothead
Footballguy
my daughter is a student at U Park. She said last night was surreal. There were (her words) "riots" all through the night with students taking sides regarding Paterno.. It all started with 200-300 kids at Paternos house. Then moved to the stadium. Then Old Main Lawn. Then Beaver Avenue downtown. oof 
I worry about Saturday when drunken, emotional alumni join the fray. :(
I worry about Saturday when drunken, emotional alumni join the fray. :(
AmosMoses
Footballguy
They responded, by delaying a decision.
beavers
Footballguy
I was naive and thought the guy got caught tickling a young boy in the shower. But to hear that it was anal sex on a 10 year old, I am even more disgusted. Shame on Penn St. Wow, just wow. It's rape, nothing less.This just sound worse by the minute.When a woman is raped, it is the breaking lead in a NY news station with where the incident happened, a sketch ID of the suspect...and a number for anyone with information to call the number on the screen.
We know the suspect, in fact, he is free as of now to rape again if he wants.
I don't know if there is any legal distinction between rape and sexual assault, but these kids were violated in the worse way.
Sexual assault can be groping in some peoples mind.
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Arsenal of Doom
Footballguy
This is what inaction breeds. The longer they (whoever is in charge if anyone) let this go the worse it's going to get. A committee to do a full investigation is probably appropriate, but anyone implicated has to be suspended or put on leave while it's happening.my daughter is a student at U Park. She said last night was surreal. There were (her words) "riots" all through the night with students taking sides regarding Paterno.. It all started with 200-300 kids at Paternos house. Then moved to the stadium. Then Old Main Lawn. Then Beaver Avenue downtown. oof
Parrothead
Footballguy
yeah- I did hear on ESPN that since it is a state organization, they need proper public notice of meetings where decisions are made. This was an emergency meeting. Friday is their scheduled and duly advertised meeting.I can only hope they suspend or fire all involved before the game
This.This is what inaction breeds. The longer they (whoever is in charge if anyone) let this go the worse it's going to get. A committee to do a full investigation is probably appropriate, but anyone implicated has to be suspended or put on leave while it's happening.my daughter is a student at U Park. She said last night was surreal. There were (her words) "riots" all through the night with students taking sides regarding Paterno.. It all started with 200-300 kids at Paternos house. Then moved to the stadium. Then Old Main Lawn. Then Beaver Avenue downtown. oof
I worry about Saturday when drunken, emotional alumni join the fray. :(
Hopefuly a lot of slapping and punching is done by the alumni. Either these students are brainwashed, uneducated becasuse they don't have kids themselves, or just morons that think football is life. I really can't tell which one they aremy daughter is a student at U Park. She said last night was surreal. There were (her words) "riots" all through the night with students taking sides regarding Paterno.. It all started with 200-300 kids at Paternos house. Then moved to the stadium. Then Old Main Lawn. Then Beaver Avenue downtown. oof
CrossEyed
Footballguy
I've been following this story very closely and haven't watched a minute of ESPN.I just don't understand who at the University thinks it is a good idea to let Paterno and McQueary coach this weekend..
There could be riots and fights in the stadium between our own fans.
I'll bet ESPN is loving this one from a ratings perspective. At this point, how can you NOT watch?
Monsieur Meursault
Footballguy
Hopefuly a lot of slapping and punching is done by the alumni. Either these students are brainwashed, uneducated becasuse they don't have kids themselves, or just morons that think football is life. I really can't tell which one they aremy daughter is a student at U Park. She said last night was surreal. There were (her words) "riots" all through the night with students taking sides regarding Paterno.. It all started with 200-300 kids at Paternos house. Then moved to the stadium. Then Old Main Lawn. Then Beaver Avenue downtown. oof
I simply do not understand how people can support Paterno in this. He is as responsible, if not more responsible, as Curley and Schultz. Paterno knew what Sandusky was doing, and he failed to see that it stopped. And he failed to report it to law enforcement. Paterno is in charge at Penn State. Spanier is the president, but Paterno is in charge. It is just incomprehensible how people support Paterno and want him to stick around. I don't get it.
CrossEyed
Footballguy
PSU is not a state organization. They are a state-related university. There are state officials who are on the board of trustees, but they are an independent organization.
dgreen
Footballguy
I assumed he was referring to the PSU-Nebraska game being on ESPN this Saturday. I rarely watch college football, but I'll tune in for the beginning of that game.I've been following this story very closely and haven't watched a minute of ESPN.I just don't understand who at the University thinks it is a good idea to let Paterno and McQueary coach this weekend..
There could be riots and fights in the stadium between our own fans.
I'll bet ESPN is loving this one from a ratings perspective. At this point, how can you NOT watch?
Charlie Steiner
Footballguy
I think it depends on how much truth is in the adage "money talks, b.s. walks."
CrossEyed
Footballguy
The more I've thought about it, Mike McQueary is as big a coward as they come.
This guy witnessed Sandusky raping a 10 year old boy in the shower. OK, I get that initially there may have just been so much shock that he didn't know what to do. I'm willing to give the guy a pass on not breaking it up on the spot. But after he reported it and nothing was done, how do you just act like you never saw what you saw? How do you continue to come to work every day in that facility knowing the guy that you personally watched rape a boy not only still has an office there and "emeritus" status, but that he continues to work with these Second Mile boys and continues to bring them to practice and hold overnight camps? How do you sleep at night? How do you live with yourself? How do you not say to yourself, "This is wrong, and if nobody else is going to do anything about it, I am, consequences be damned."?
Gutless coward.
This guy witnessed Sandusky raping a 10 year old boy in the shower. OK, I get that initially there may have just been so much shock that he didn't know what to do. I'm willing to give the guy a pass on not breaking it up on the spot. But after he reported it and nothing was done, how do you just act like you never saw what you saw? How do you continue to come to work every day in that facility knowing the guy that you personally watched rape a boy not only still has an office there and "emeritus" status, but that he continues to work with these Second Mile boys and continues to bring them to practice and hold overnight camps? How do you sleep at night? How do you live with yourself? How do you not say to yourself, "This is wrong, and if nobody else is going to do anything about it, I am, consequences be damned."?
Gutless coward.
AmosMoses
Footballguy
I'd blame Sandusky if I were you.
CrossEyed
Footballguy
The governor is on the board. So he was part of the group who thought that swift decisive action was to form a committee. Then again, he's one voice in a group of 48. Maybe he doesn't have as much power to do something as we'd like to think. But he could at least come out and make a statement. Leadership surrounding this whole thing is surprisingly absent.
Buddy Ball 2K3
Footballguy
CrossEyed
Footballguy
Ahhh, OK. Thought he was referring to the ongoing coverage. Yeah, I'm sure the ratings for the beginning of that game will be through the roof.I assumed he was referring to the PSU-Nebraska game being on ESPN this Saturday. I rarely watch college football, but I'll tune in for the beginning of that game.I've been following this story very closely and haven't watched a minute of ESPN.I just don't understand who at the University thinks it is a good idea to let Paterno and McQueary coach this weekend..
There could be riots and fights in the stadium between our own fans.
I'll bet ESPN is loving this one from a ratings perspective. At this point, how can you NOT watch?
Pipes
Footballguy
This...I don't know how that guy can look himself in the mirror.
Brock Middlebrook
Footballguy
McQueary's on a recruiting trip??? Seriously? The guy's a total scum and everybody now knows it and they want to send him out to represent PSU? Wow....just Wow
Parrothead
Footballguy
I meant the game on SaturdayI've been following this story very closely and haven't watched a minute of ESPN.I just don't understand who at the University thinks it is a good idea to let Paterno and McQueary coach this weekend..
There could be riots and fights in the stadium between our own fans.
I'll bet ESPN is loving this one from a ratings perspective. At this point, how can you NOT watch?
wadegarrett
FFA Legend™
Completely on board here. And not just that "he reported it." HE TOLD HIS ####### DAD! What are you in 4th grade?Get some ####### balls dude.
beer 30
Footballguy
Agree 100%, matter of fact I said about the same thing a few posts above yours. to further implicate another individual, what about his dad? Whose sage advice was to leave. Not grab the kid, not call the cops but leave.
culdeus
Footballguy
At least 40 years of pedo state. Deal with it or abandon your team.
beer 30
Footballguy
I've heard speculation re: McQueary that going from grad assistant to the position he currently holds (WR coach, head of recruiting) is pretty meteoric and now comes into question given the back story. Was he promoted to keep quite? My guess is yes but there will never be any way to prove it other than in the court of public opinion.
Parrothead
Footballguy
CrossEyed
Footballguy
Whole lot of self-preservation surrounds this entire scandal. Not one of these guys thought for a minute about the kids who were involved. It was all about protecting themselves, PSU, and the football program. For that reason I find myself more and more leaning toward the death penalty for this program. Time to send a message that sports is not the most important thing in life. Our society needs a big-time wakeup call.
CrossEyed
Footballguy
Not good enough, imo.
Gianni Verscotchie
Footballguy
I think we'll find out that McQueary was given a coaching position in exchange for keeping quiet. The real question is who gave him the job?
According to a report in a Chicago paper (not sure which one didn't hear that) listening to Pittsburgh 93.7 Fan that Tom Rinaldi of ESPN is doing an interview at 1 today with Paterno. Could be bull#### who knows
I guess Jim Gray wasn't available at that time.
I guess Jim Gray wasn't available at that time.
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Buddy Ball 2K3
Footballguy
culdeus
Footballguy
#### that. God I hope they can get that guy in jail. There has to be something to nail him on.
I agree - this perpetuates the message that Paterno and the football program are bigger than the University.That may be true, but it is not the message you want to publicly acknowledge.Not good enough, imo.
Parrothead
Footballguy
not good.. should not be coaching Saturday. The University passed up a chance to appear in control by saying "no" to Joe, and they blew it..Ugh
culdeus
Footballguy
where are they getting this? Twitter isn't saying anything like that and espn is usually well behind twitter
They read an AP report
culdeus
Footballguy
then I don't buy it
randall146
Footballguy
Paterno didn't supply the kids, but he supplied the candy.
comfortably numb
Footballguy
My guess is the university is doing a full quick, "lets see what is currently documented and see whose ### we can cover before the authorities get involved." before publicly saying anything of note or taking any actionIs there anything we can destroyIs there anything we need to know about before protecting this guy/that guyIs there anything we can cover up before the #### hits the fan even more
My guess is that it has been floated by the trustees or Paterno to gauge reaction.
That's basically what Lavar Arrington said about it. McQueary was his QB when he was on the team and he couldn't believe his reaction to the situation.
