Parrothead
Footballguy
maybe he was recruiting for the Gamecocks instead?
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Jerry Sandusky accused of child molestation (1 Viewer)
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Todd Andrews
Footballguy
My dad was a football star at Greer High a long time ago--they make em right in the Blue Ridge Mountains.
Tiny Dancer
Footballguy
It seems that only the football team had enough power in the university to keep this under wraps. The creative writing professor would have been in prison years ago. The purpose of shutting down the program, in theory, would be to diminish the importance of the football program such that it did not continue to have such an outsized role on campus. I'm doubtful that it would work, though.
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AAABatteries
Footballguy
Several assumptions there.
Tiny Dancer
Footballguy
I agree. But I think those are the assumptions underlying the sentiment that shutting down football might be beneficial to the university.
Das Boot
Footballguy
Football is about the only entity that could ever consolidate and wield that much power at a university - it was fully intertwined with this entire series of incidents.
Das Boot
Footballguy
I suspect because it got their name in the news and will generate tons of free publicity - a win / win from the Cars.com perspective.
shadyridr
Footballguy
i thought speculation was the latter
mad sweeney
Footballguy
Unfortunately , that's what I suspected. If I were there I think I'd have to make some kind of sign condemning him for the career oriented coward that he is.
Parrothead
Footballguy
meanjoegreen
Footballguy
I think there has been enough crimes committed. I don't think throwing a cinder block through his window is good thing. Sandusky will face his crimes in the court of law.
Koya
Footballguy
Why the hell is this a thumbsup? What good does vigilante behavior do? As if his family is not suffering enough through this they have to deal with threats to their safety?Come on people, be better than this.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
I want to think that, but I don't. As long as there's no one else in the house with that monster then I'm fine with cinder blocks and such. I'm just surprised it took so long.
Dragons
Delusions of Grandeur
How do you know no one was in the house with him?I want to think that, but I don't. As long as there's no one else in the house with that monster then I'm fine with cinder blocks and such. I'm just surprised it took so long.
pantherclub
Footballguy
so far Al golden and mike london have declined the job.
penn st is going to be set back decades
penn st is going to be set back decades
belljr
Footballguy
advertisers wont bother me, the group of kids did nothing wrong and they deserve to play
CrossEyed
Footballguy
Pretty sure Rudnicki saw him shopping for PSU attire at ****'s in Colorado.How do you know no one was in the house with him?I want to think that, but I don't. As long as there's no one else in the house with that monster then I'm fine with cinder blocks and such. I'm just surprised it took so long.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
For one thing, the report on ESPN said no one was home. However, I wasn't speaking specifically of this incident, just of my general feeling about the matter. I'd be completely shocked out of my mind if his wife and any of his kids were staying with him right now.How do you know no one was in the house with him?I want to think that, but I don't. As long as there's no one else in the house with that monster then I'm fine with cinder blocks and such. I'm just surprised it took so long.
Dragons
Delusions of Grandeur
I have no absolutely no problem with cars.com pulling advertising when Paterno and McQueary were planning to be on the sidelines. It's probably a dumb financial decision as the game would have probably had higher ratings. But, now that they're both gone, I don't see a need for it. It may be too late to get back into the game, but I wouldn't expect any other advertisers to pull advertising.
I think Wall Street Journal said 6 different advertisers had pulled ads from the tv coverage tomorrow
here's a link: http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-11-11/six-advertisers-are-said-to-drop-penn-state-game-on-espn.html
here's a link: http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-11-11/six-advertisers-are-said-to-drop-penn-state-game-on-espn.html
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mad sweeney
Footballguy
ESPN ticker is quoting McCoward as telling players on the phone that "I'm not your coach anymore" and "I'm done".
Bottomfeeder Sports
Footballguy
I don't think the NCAA will do anything for the very reasons you stated. The Big 10 might do something we will never hear. However, I think that if anything comes up in the near future the NCAA will drop the hammer a lot harder than it would otherwise. The Maryland situation had real infractions but they were largely considered minor, but the penalties were rather harsh. Unexpectedly harsh!
Billy Bats
Footballguy
Statement from Scott Paterno tonight....
pantherclub
Footballguy
As I have said numerous times in this thread, I think you guys are nuts if you dont think the NCAA is not going to poke their head in Happy Valley. There are too many angles at play here for them not to do it. If Sandusky was still recruiting, using the facilities and going to bowls you can be damn sure teh NCAA is at least going to ask questions.
ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
Big_Russel
Footballguy
And of course, Paterno doesn't have to be Sandusky's superior to call the ####### police.Sigh. And that is true in the legal sense. Sure, maybe Joe could have ordered Curley to fire him or get him off campus but Joe himself cannot do that. But I can't find anyone in here saying that he was not associated with Penn State anymore AT ALL. That's just silly. Of course he was. That's the problem!Well, at least some people defending Paterno were trying to make the case that he had no authority over Sandusky since Sandusky was no longer on his staff and had no official affiliation with the football program.Who in the world was making that argument? There were reports at the beginning of the week that he was at the gym on campus last week.
Are people really too ####### stupid to comprehend this??
ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
That's a wonderful post. Thank you.
ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
See but here's the thing: It isn't really just football that makes it like that. It is (or was) Paterno. It would be one thing if you say abuses and coverups going back over many years of different coaches. Then you can assign more blame to the sport/university. But I believe that most of the looking away and cover up was to save Paterno. So with him gone, I don't think you need to abolish the football program. I don't think you'll see people do horrible things like fail to report a monster like this for some other coach. It's not the football culture at Penn State. It was the Paterno idoltry.
krista4
Footballguy
Oops, well there you have it.
I wouldn't have thought they did it.Edit: Not really. The guy's bio doesn't apply to what you're thinking of as "criminal". 
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Dragons
Delusions of Grandeur
At least I'm not going crazy. But this tells me that what we've suspected is probably true.
krista4
Footballguy
The only criminal that's listed on his bio is environmental, accounting fraud, health care, FDA, and "federal" criminal, which is in keeping with a white-collar firm. Maybe we're talking about federal if he's going for criminal; otherwise it's clearly just civil litigation.
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otello
Footballguy
Both civil and criminal are in play for Joepa, especially as more information comes out.
krista4
Footballguy
They don't have criminal practice anywhere listed on their web site.Also, he looks like a #####.Oops, well there you have it.
Also, from his bio: St. Paul’s School for Boys in Baltimore, Board of Trustees Member
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otello
Footballguy
They call it special matters/government investigations.They don't have criminal practice anywhere listed on their web site.Also, he looks like a #####.Oops, well there you have it.
Also, from his bio: St. Paul’s School for Boys in Baltimore, Board of Trustees Member
Todd Andrews
Footballguy
No. The strategy is to protect him from any possible criminal charge first. If he's named in a civil suit he can always hire a civil attorney later. I have a relationship with a criminal attorney where he refers any clients to me who get sued in civil court. We work very closely together because the number one priority is to always keep our client out of jail. Unless and until the threat of criminal sanctions passes, he takes the lead.
Don Quixote
Footballguy
"Special matters" is how K&S refers to white collar crime.At the risk of revealing too much info about myself, I'm a former K&S associate, and know Wick. He's one of the best there is at this.Oops, well there you have it.
Joe Summer
Footballguy
So what were you accused of?"Special matters" is how K&S refers to white collar crime.At the risk of revealing too much info about myself, I'm a former K&S associate, and know Wick. He's one of the best there is at this.Oops, well there you have it.
krista4
Footballguy
One of the best there is at what? (Also, great firm."Special matters" is how K&S refers to white collar crime.At the risk of revealing too much info about myself, I'm a former K&S associate, and know Wick. He's one of the best there is at this.Oops, well there you have it.
But I'm former Skadden and Kirkland and can't imagine them coming within miles of this.)
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Don Quixote
Footballguy
Nothing. I used to work at K&S, Wick's firm.So what were you accused of?"Special matters" is how K&S refers to white collar crime.At the risk of revealing too much info about myself, I'm a former K&S associate, and know Wick. He's one of the best there is at this.Oops, well there you have it.
Don Quixote
Footballguy
At white collar criminal defense. I can't really get into too much more on specific matters because of confidentiality. I think K&S is still reeling a bit from the fallout of Paul Clement's departure over DOMA, so maybe they took it as a way of showing can still take unpopular clients.I've moved on to a couple of other BigLaws since K&S, but will keep quiet on their identities.One of the best there is at what? (Also, great firm."Special matters" is how K&S refers to white collar crime.At the risk of revealing too much info about myself, I'm a former K&S associate, and know Wick. He's one of the best there is at this.Oops, well there you have it.
krista4
Footballguy
Interesting stuff.At white collar criminal defense. I can't really get into too much more on specific matters because of confidentiality. I think K&S is still reeling a bit from the fallout of Paul Clement's departure over DOMA, so maybe they took it as a way of showing can still take unpopular clients.I've moved on to a couple of other BigLaws since K&S, but will keep quiet on their identities.One of the best there is at what? (Also, great firm."Special matters" is how K&S refers to white collar crime.At the risk of revealing too much info about myself, I'm a former K&S associate, and know Wick. He's one of the best there is at this.Oops, well there you have it.
Dragons
Delusions of Grandeur
I understand that and knowing what we know and suspecting what we suspect, it's probably a good idea. It just seems to indicate that what we suspect may in fact be true.
The Comedian
Footballguy
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Can I get a brief synopsis of what I missed on the last 53 pages?
