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Big Ten Basketball 2022/2023 - Return to Power (7 Viewers)
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Garrett
Footballguy
Oladipo with some impressive defensive on Craft. Watford needs to get going in the 2nd half to keep up with the offensive spurts sure to come from OSU once all their starters are back in there.Indiana leading OSU at half.
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The General
Footballguy
Indiana with wins over #1 and #2. Drinks are gonna taste good tonight!!!
Grady Wilson
Footballguy
Very entertaining game between Indiana and Ohio State. Two very good teams. Indiana has been impressive beating two of the best teams in the nation. Curious to see how they'll do on the road, but the Hoosier fans definitely should be celebrating tonight.
wadegarrett
FFA Legend™
What the hell was Buford doing firing up that 3 at the end? Dumb play by someone who should know better. 
Great game to watch though.
Great game to watch though.
Spartans Rule
Footballguy
A lot of Wisconsin hate based on one rough shooting night. I'm guessing that will change when they do what they always do to MSU on Tuesday.
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BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
Fellow MSU fan in total agreement.
Not really hate. I just see IU and MSU as top 10 teams and Wisconsin a top 15 team along with Michigan. The Big Ten has 5 teams that should be in Sweet 16, imo.
BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
UM's SOS is abyssmalkenpom has:Wisky #1OSU #2Indy #7MSU #9Purdue #25UM #45
Michigan had a cupcake schedule, but they are still on about the same level as Wisconsin. Michigan showed a lot in the second half of last season and is building on that. Michigan got within one last shot of upsetting #1 seed Duke last year.
Spartans Rule
Footballguy
MSU beats Bo Ryan in the Kohl Center for the first time ever!!
Really can't understate how awesome of a win this is for MSU given the gut-wrenching history of this rivalry.
Really can't understate how awesome of a win this is for MSU given the gut-wrenching history of this rivalry.
BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
Wisky with 2 different time clocks...LOL...good try there Bo. 
Huge win for the Spartans. This team is for real. 180 degree difference vs. last year's team.
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Spartans346
Footballguy
That ending was insane!!! I've never seen anything like that before but the clock above the backboard has to be the "official clock" 
First the hail mary and now the clock.
First the hail mary and now the clock.
BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
It is the official clock, as it is synced with the red lights around the back of the backboard that go off signalling when that clock hits 00.0.Really thought State was going to get jobbed on that, especially Wisky being the home team. Right call was made though.That ending was insane!!! I've never seen anything like that before but the clock above the backboard has to be the "official clock"
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Spartans Rule
Footballguy
Watching the replay I figured the red light on the backboard had to be official, but I wasn't going to breathe easy until they called it. Nothing ever seems to go right for the Spartans in that damn place, and the way the lead had slipped away was typical of that.
BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
You ain't kidding. Wisconsin had every opportunity to take that one from State. Couldn't believe they even had to go look at the clock to see if more time should have been put on when Appling was fouled.
Spartans Rule
Footballguy
Loved Izzo's postgame comment on the last shot.
Something like... "I didn't see it. All I saw was our guy not getting the rebound, so now I have to go deal with that"
Something like... "I didn't see it. All I saw was our guy not getting the rebound, so now I have to go deal with that"
BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
Liked that too, Dickitsh or Dakitch or whatever his name is trying to goad him into saying the shot should have counted.
Those announcers were all over Wisky tonight. Better yet was Ryan's reaction... 
Update? Wisconsin is the 5th best team in a very good Big 10. There will be 4 to 5 Big 10 teams in the Sweet 16.
Spartans Rule
Footballguy
After tonight I will happily concede that argument to you.The Badgers were hurting for offense outside of Taylor.
BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
Really going out on a limb there...after 2 conference games so far...
Let's see. IU has beaten the #1 and #2 teams in the country. MSU only loses were to Duke and NC and has since beaten IU and Wisconsin. Wisconsin on the other hand now has 4 loses, one at home to a mediocre at best Iowa team. We are more than a third through the season, a lot more than two games this is based on.Really going out on a limb there...after 2 conference games so far...
BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
UPDATE:kenpom ratings:tOSU: #1Wisky: #2Indy: #9MSU: #10Purdue: #25UM: #43Minny: #46Can't emphasize enough how huge that win in Wisconsin was for MSU last night (0-8 in WI since '01).'jon_mx said:
BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
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Dexter Manley
Footballguy
Wow. Nebraska with another tough close loss in conference play last night.
urbanhack
Fight The Power!
Dexter Manley
Footballguy
Yea, after the Michigan St. game Izzo all but said that Doc Sadler is the best coach in the conference so I'm pretty confident he'll right the ship and the Huskers will finish their conference slate on something like a 13-2 or 12-3 run.
The General
Footballguy
Great pic. I always thought Bo Ryan would be a great extra in mob movies - that dude is intense.
BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
Larry the Cable Guy there in the background
Garrett
Footballguy
Yeah, they all look like zombies.
Johnny Rock
Footballguy
Yeah how about those Homers in the background. Priceless!
The General
Footballguy
Great matchup tomorrow night with Michigan @ Indiana. I haven't seen Michigan play this season just know they have been climbing the rankings, have Tim Hardaway's kid, and seem to have been improving over the past few years.
Have seen IU -7.5 online.
Have seen IU -7.5 online.
Garrett
Footballguy
Yeah, both teams are going to want to push the pace as much as then can so it will be an exciting game to watch. Michigan will need above average outside shooting and to stay out of foul trouble to keep up offensively with Indiana.
Captain Quinoa
Footballguy
who's doing that?
Bull Dozier
Footballguy
Not that anyone is talking about them, but MN is playing horribly. They'll obviously be dropping from this number after a loss to Iowa, but I can see them not winning another game on the road all season, except maybe Nebraska.
BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
UM dropped to #46 and MN to #54 today.
The Real Hipster Doofus
Footballguy
Michigan has always had trouble at Assembly Hall. Hardaway Jr. is our best player, but he is starting to get some competition for that role from freshman PG Trey Burke, who had 27 points against Minnesota last week and is playing well beyond his age. Other guys to keep an eye on are Zack Novak, a 6-3 guard who does a bit of everything (including playing a lot of PF) and PF Evan Smotrycz, who is 6-9 and shooting 54% from 3 on the year. I expect IU to win by 5-8 points, but I wouldn't be shocked if Michigan pulls off the upset. Depends on how hot the Hoosiers are from beyond the arc, and also if Michigan center Jordan Morgan can avoid foul trouble, because we have little depth behind him.
Dexter Manley
Footballguy
Depends. For mid-major conferences, it's absolutely acceptable to root for other conference teams in OOC play, for obvious reasons.For major conferences it's completely unacceptable (*)(**). For example, I'm having a hard time picturing any legit Duke fans cheering on North Carolina when they faced Evansville a few weeks ago. Any fans of ACC teams who cheered for Duke last night (except Duke fans obviously) should turn their fan cards in today.* - Except in some rare cases in OOC starting in February, like when your team is on the bubble and an upcoming conference foe plays an OOC opponent before your team.** - In conference challenges (i.e. ACC - B1G Challenge) it's acceptable to root for other conference teams who aren't one of your favorite team's rivals. For example, this year OSU fans could cheer on fellow B1G schools like Nebraska and Northwestern in the ACC - B1G Challenge, but rooting for Michigan would of been a big no no.
Kenpom has some interesting metrics to evaluate efficiencies and tendancies, but he has lots of work to do on his rating system. Wisconsin is no where near the #2 team and Michigan is a lot better than #43.UPDATE:kenpom ratings:tOSU: #1Wisky: #2Indy: #9MSU: #10Purdue: #25UM: #43Minny: #46Can't emphasize enough how huge that win in Wisconsin was for MSU last night (0-8 in WI since '01).
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