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*** Official Jaguars Thread - Team Putting #DTWD to The Test *** (4 Viewers)

BobbyLayne said:
Joe B's morning email rates this a tough passing matchup. Titans just lost their best DB, and have given up 841 yards, 6 TDs & had 1 INT in the last 3 games. On the season they've given up the 21st most FF points to WRs, 11th most FF pts to QBs, 7th most to TEs. They've surrendered 5 TDs to TEs over the last 5 weeks.

Bortles is the QB6 in this weeks FBGs rankings. How is this a tough passing matchup? If you're going to pimp the Titans, give them credit for stopping the run, the strength of their D. Other than Orapko they have no playmakers.

Fat Julius should be a good sneaky start tonight. I don't think they can run effectively on the Titans. This game is on Blake. He came up small in a plus matchup v. the Ravens. He needs to have a big game for the Jags, and I think he will.
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I'm hoping Julius makes an appearance..... Gut feeling he shows up, rolling the dice.

BobbyLayne said:
Joe B's morning email rates this a tough passing matchup. Titans just lost their best DB, and have given up 841 yards, 6 TDs & had 1 INT in the last 3 games. On the season they've given up the 21st most FF points to WRs, 11th most FF pts to QBs, 7th most to TEs. They've surrendered 5 TDs to TEs over the last 5 weeks.

Bortles is the QB6 in this weeks FBGs rankings. How is this a tough passing matchup? If you're going to pimp the Titans, give them credit for stopping the run, the strength of their D. Other than Orapko they have no playmakers.

Fat Julius should be a good sneaky start tonight. I don't think they can run effectively on the Titans. This game is on Blake. He came up small in a plus matchup v. the Ravens. He needs to have a big game for the Jags, and I think he will.
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Just checking into to say I really like where this franchise is headed. The offense has the personnel to be elite in the next 20 or so games, and Gus Bradley has the defensive resume to get that side of the ball good enough to be a contender. Exciting team IMO.

 
Two in a row, three out of four. Baby steps.

Nice win for Jags tonight. Got a chance to play meaningful games in the last six weeks of the season. Can't ask for much more from a young team.

####...gotta figure out how they can be competitive ROS and get Gus fired. That's a challenge.

 
I'd be really excited if I were a Jags fan. I'm an eagles fan but I've always have a "soft spot" for usually one team in each division and the Jags are it in the AFC south. This likely due to my fondness for cats and I loved Taylor (when he was healthy back in the day) and jimmy smith helped me won my first FF bowl.

Anyway, I wouldn't be too hard on Gus just yet. Up in Philly the city was pretty divided when it came down to being between him and Kelly. After a year, it seemed Kelly and the team he inherited was the best place to be but now? Man, I'd love to have the offensive skill guys you have. Plus, didn't you have a bad break and lose your top rookie right away?

Things a are trending up nice for this team and I enjoyed watching the game last night. I just wish Bradley would get more creative down at the GL and maybe give Yeldon a crack at the endzone once in a while?

 
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Well so much for all that. Hurns gonna be shut down for the year? Still a lot that can be accomplished in building for next year. That stuff carries over regardless of whether Gus is back or not.

This team has enough talent to be sitting on 7 or 8 wins. Absolutely should have won yesterday, v. the Jets and the Colts. Special Teams and defense have been disappointing. BB needs to work on ball security, though having witnessed what happens to a young gunslinger who gets his wings clipped (Stafford), probably should be careful about what you to wish for.

It's not going to take a lot for this team to get good quick. Obviously an edge rusher would have a tremendous impact that would permeate throughout the defense. But offensively the sky is the limit - good to great young skill position players.

 
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BobbyLayne said:
Well so much for all that. Hurns gonna be shut down for the year? Still a lot that can be accomplished in building for next year. That stuff carries over regardless of whether Gus is back or not.

This team has enough talent to be sitting on 7 or 8 wins. Absolutely should have won yesterday, v. the Jets and the Colts. Special Teams and defense have been disappointing. BB needs to work on ball security, though having witnessed what happens to a young gunslinger who gets his wings clipped (Stafford), probably should be careful about what you to wish for.

It's not going to take a lot for this team to get good quick. Obviously an edge rusher would have a tremendous impact that would permeate throughout the defense. But offensively the sky is the limit - good to great young skill position players.
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All good points. Yes, this team should have more wins than it currently has. While Gus is an obvious issue and I think holding this team back a bit, I am pretty sure that he's given another year.

At some point, BB is going to have to learn when to not throw into tight windows during inopportune times. It's been his Achilles heel. He's basically put that offense on his back, but the thing is, he no longer has to. There are enough weapons on the field. And Yeldon had 4 touches in the second half yesterday. That's no good.

The red zone play is painful to watch.

Pass rush is this team's biggest weakness. Hopefully Dante Fowler works out next year.

It feels like they're getting close to putting it together, but then they never do it. They are a frustrating team to root for.

 
  • Is it just me or does it seem like some of Bortles’ worst decisions are right before half?

I said it before and I’ll say it again – When they’re in the Red Zone they need to run the ball out of spread formation.
And I know the pass rush stinks but I can’t imagine that the front office had that soft zone in mind when they signed Gus away from Seattle.
The only people who hate Mike McCoy more than Allen Hurns’ family are the Chargers fans.
 
22 years ago today, Jacksonville was awarded the 30th NFL franchise.

ROSEMONT, Ill., Nov. 30— In a totally unexpected move, the National Football League awarded an expansion franchise today to Jacksonville, Fla., a city that only last summer dropped out of the bidding and as recently as a month ago was considered a long shot behind St. Louis and Baltimore.

The new team, named the Jaguars, and Charlotte's Carolina Panthers, voted in five weeks ago, will begin play in 1995 as the N.F.L.'s 29th and 30th teams.

Jacksonville becomes one of the league's smallest cities and its second-smallest television market. But its addition strengthens the N.F.L.'s presence in the attractive Southeastern market, with three teams in Florida -- Jacksonville joins Miami and Tampa Bay -- as well as Charlotte, Atlanta and New Orleans.

"It became clear to the committees," N.F.L. Commissioner Paul Tagliabue said, "that the Southeast has become a tremendous area for expansion."

Jacksonville beat out competing bids from Baltimore (with three groups), St. Louis and Memphis. St. Louis was believed to have been the favorite, although Baltimore seemed to make great strides when its third ownership group entered the picture two weeks ago. But league officials insisted all along that there was no favorite.
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http://www.nytimes.com/1993/12/01/sports/pro-football-nfl-expansion-surprise-jacksonville-jaguars.html

 
JaxBill said:
  • Is it just me or does it seem like some of Bortles worst decisions are right before half?
  • I said it before and Ill say it again When theyre in the Red Zone they need to run the ball out of spread formation.
  • And I know the pass rush stinks but I cant imagine that the front office had that soft zone in mind when they signed Gus away from Seattle.
  • The only people who hate Mike McCoy more than Allen Hurns family are the Chargers fans.
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You're correct- Bortles presses at the end of the half/game and makes bad throws. That needs to stop.Spread it out and move the pocket on occasion.

Gus is so passive.

**** move by McCoy.

 
Jags place Toby Gerhart on IR and promote WR Ryan Lawrence from practice squad.

-Toby's Jags career over. He scored 2 more TD for them than Dodds Gerhart.

-Hurns coming back next week is still a possibility since they chose not to IR him

 
Gonna miss the "lets run the Toby dive play from the jumbo package" routine; it was a fixture in my Jags viewing drinking game. Replacing it with "do a double when QB throws pass 5 feet beyond LOS."

 
BobbyLayne said:
Gonna miss the "lets run the Toby dive play from the jumbo package" routine; it was a fixture in my Jags viewing drinking game. Replacing it with "do a double when QB throws pass 5 feet beyond LOS."
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You're going to pass out by the 2nd drive.
 
JaxBill said:
Jags place Toby Gerhart on IR and promote WR Ryan Lawrence from practice squad.

-Toby's Jags career over. He scored 2 more TD for them than Dodds Gerhart.

-Hurns coming back next week is still a possibility since they chose not to IR him
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Yep, Toby is gone.
 
Mr. Brownstone said:
As of now, Bortles is 3rd in the league in TD passes.
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And he's going to get better.

That's about 4-5 games they frittered away this year. It's not gonna take much for the Jags to make a huge jump next year.

 
BobbyLayne said:
Mr. Brownstone said:
As of now, Bortles is 3rd in the league in TD passes.
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And he's going to get better.

That's about 4-5 games they frittered away this year. It's not gonna take much for the Jags to make a huge jump next year.
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As an impartial observer I'd have to say the Jags are one of the more entertaining teams to watch in the NFL. I love some of their young talent such as Bortles and ARob on offense...Smith and Cyprien on defense just to name a few. A solid draft this upcoming spring I think the Jags are in the playoff hunt next year.

 
So, that settles it. They are not trying to win any of their remaining games.

@BigCatCountry:

"Well, I trust him in field goals."

-#Jaguars HC Gus Bradley on Jason Meyers

Pathetic.

 
Mr B, what will take to make him former HC Gus Bradley?

On the one hand I want to see them finish strong. Fans who want their teams to tank for a better draft pick don't know jack #### about competing at the highest level. This team needs to learn how to close out games, and they can build on positives that happen over the last month.

On the other hand, I really feel like they are so close to making a leap forward, but I honestly think it needs to be under a different HC. I could be wrong but I strongly dislike Bradley as the HC. These guys are super talented but they need leadership.

 
BobbyLayne said:
Mr B, what will take to make him former HC Gus Bradley?

On the one hand I want to see them finish strong. Fans who want their teams to tank for a better draft pick don't know jack #### about competing at the highest level. This team needs to learn how to close out games, and they can build on positives that happen over the last month.

On the other hand, I really feel like they are so close to making a leap forward, but I honestly think it needs to be under a different HC. I could be wrong but I strongly dislike Bradley as the HC. These guys are super talented but they need leadership.
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I honestly don't know what it will take for Gus to hit the road. The Jags have been patient, but I would hope that they've had enough. I know the fans have.

 
Thank You Peter King, for confirming the fact that you intentionally ignore the Jaguars.

In his MMQB he talks at length about the great young QBs and Mariota and Winston being dynamic rookies. He talks about what about a great day Mariota had.

Never once mentions Bortles 5 TD performance. And then we get this backhanded compliment

e. The where-did-that-come-from, 10-catch, three-touchdown game by Allen Robinson of the Jags.
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Hellooo?? Is this thing on? He has over a thousand yards. He's second in the league with 11 TD. That was his 4th game of +100 yards, second over 150.

 
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Jaguars coach Gus Bradley appears stumped about how to fix porous defenseBy Hays Carlyon (Hays Carlyon's Blog)The AFC South was there for the taking.

The Jaguars were 4-6 two weeks ago, with games coming up against a pair of two-win teams in San Diego and Tennessee.

Two golden opportunities to get to 6-6 and in the playoff hunt.

Two blown chances.

Thanks largely to an inept defense, the Jaguars lost both games. They gave up 31 to injury-plagued San Diego and then miserably failed in a 42-39 loss at division rival Tennessee on Sunday.

Two losses where the opponents scored a combined 73 points.

Inexcusable.

The Chargers scored three points in their 30-point loss to visiting Kansas City prior to traveling to the Jaguars and put up three points on Sunday in a 14-point loss to visiting Denver.

The Titans entered Sunday’s game ranked 30th in total yards and scoring.

How can the defense possibly be this bad with a defensive-minded coach in Gus Bradley who is in his third season?

“As a coaching staff, we’re trying to figure it out,” Bradley said. “We’re trying to find out what works.”

Basically, the Jaguars can’t pressure the quarterback and when they blitz they frequently get burned. The Jaguars gave up 467 yards to the Titans, including 10 plays Bradley dubbed explosive, and missed 16 tackles.

“The pass game continues to be a struggle,” Bradley said. “It doesn’t matter if it’s first, second or third down, although it really shows up on third down. We’re trying to figure out it’s all about rush and cover. Right now, we’re not putting that together. If we have to send more guys on pressure, it’s hard to hold up in coverage. If we play an extra guy in coverage, we aren’t getting the pressure we need.”

Bradley, 11-33 overall, now has to try and salvage a respectable season the last four games, starting with Sunday’s contest when the Jaguars (4-8) host division rival Indianapolis (6-6). Bradley is 0-5 against the Colts, including a devastating 16-13 loss in overtime on Oct. 4 when Indianapolis was without star quarterback Andrew Luck.

Bradley did finally acknowledge how little the defense is getting out of veteran defensive ends Andre Branch and Chris Clemons. The two man the Leo pass-rush specialist spot, but have produced little. Branch and Clemons have two tackles and four penalties over the last two games. On the season, they each have two sacks, tying for sixth on the team.

“I can’t argue that fact,” Bradley said. “When we’re looking at the Leo spot, what we’re getting the last couple weeks we have to find a way to get more. Whether that’s through pressure or rotations. We’ve got to find a way through us as a coaching staff to put them in better position, but overall the Leo spot what we’re hoping to get we’re not getting exactly what we want.”

Second-year veteran Chris Smith was a healthy inactive against the Titans, but Bradley mentioned that he could start to see a bigger role.

Taking the play-calling duties off of defensive coordinator Bob Babich doesn’t appear to be an option for Bradley. When asked if defensive line coach Todd Wash or defensive backs DeWayne Walker deserve a shot, Bradley said that wouldn’t happen.

“We’re all going through the same battle,” Bradley said. “So it’s not necessarily the call. I don’t think fundamentally we were as good as we’ve been in other games.”
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JaxBill said:
Jaguars coach Gus Bradley appears stumped about how to fix porous defense By Hays Carlyon (Hays Carlyon's Blog)The AFC South was there for the taking.

The Jaguars were 4-6 two weeks ago, with games coming up against a pair of two-win teams in San Diego and Tennessee.

Two golden opportunities to get to 6-6 and in the playoff hunt.

Two blown chances.

Thanks largely to an inept defense, the Jaguars lost both games. They gave up 31 to injury-plagued San Diego and then miserably failed in a 42-39 loss at division rival Tennessee on Sunday.

Two losses where the opponents scored a combined 73 points.

Inexcusable.

The Chargers scored three points in their 30-point loss to visiting Kansas City prior to traveling to the Jaguars and put up three points on Sunday in a 14-point loss to visiting Denver.

The Titans entered Sunday’s game ranked 30th in total yards and scoring.

How can the defense possibly be this bad with a defensive-minded coach in Gus Bradley who is in his third season?

“As a coaching staff, we’re trying to figure it out,” Bradley said. “We’re trying to find out what works.”

Basically, the Jaguars can’t pressure the quarterback and when they blitz they frequently get burned. The Jaguars gave up 467 yards to the Titans, including 10 plays Bradley dubbed explosive, and missed 16 tackles.

“The pass game continues to be a struggle,” Bradley said. “It doesn’t matter if it’s first, second or third down, although it really shows up on third down. We’re trying to figure out it’s all about rush and cover. Right now, we’re not putting that together. If we have to send more guys on pressure, it’s hard to hold up in coverage. If we play an extra guy in coverage, we aren’t getting the pressure we need.”

Bradley, 11-33 overall, now has to try and salvage a respectable season the last four games, starting with Sunday’s contest when the Jaguars (4-8) host division rival Indianapolis (6-6). Bradley is 0-5 against the Colts, including a devastating 16-13 loss in overtime on Oct. 4 when Indianapolis was without star quarterback Andrew Luck.

Bradley did finally acknowledge how little the defense is getting out of veteran defensive ends Andre Branch and Chris Clemons. The two man the Leo pass-rush specialist spot, but have produced little. Branch and Clemons have two tackles and four penalties over the last two games. On the season, they each have two sacks, tying for sixth on the team.

“I can’t argue that fact,” Bradley said. “When we’re looking at the Leo spot, what we’re getting the last couple weeks we have to find a way to get more. Whether that’s through pressure or rotations. We’ve got to find a way through us as a coaching staff to put them in better position, but overall the Leo spot what we’re hoping to get we’re not getting exactly what we want.”

Second-year veteran Chris Smith was a healthy inactive against the Titans, but Bradley mentioned that he could start to see a bigger role.

Taking the play-calling duties off of defensive coordinator Bob Babich doesn’t appear to be an option for Bradley. When asked if defensive line coach Todd Wash or defensive backs DeWayne Walker deserve a shot, Bradley said that wouldn’t happen.

“We’re all going through the same battle,” Bradley said. “So it’s not necessarily the call. I don’t think fundamentally we were as good as we’ve been in other games.”
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Hmmm, it's always reassuring to hear that your head coach has no answers.

 
Not only does he have no answers but he keeps doing the same thing repeatedly with the same players and failing and then says he has no answers.

 
Pipes said:
BobbyLayne said:
Mr. Brownstone said:
As of now, Bortles is 3rd in the league in TD passes.
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And he's going to get better.

That's about 4-5 games they frittered away this year. It's not gonna take much for the Jags to make a huge jump next year.
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As an impartial observer I'd have to say the Jags are one of the more entertaining teams to watch in the NFL. I love some of their young talent such as Bortles and ARob on offense...Smith and Cyprien on defense just to name a few. A solid draft this upcoming spring I think the Jags are in the playoff hunt next year.
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Well, no, i mean maybe. They finally have to evaluate their defensive players on performance and not potential. They have been awfully carried away with the Sen Derrick Marks loss. Considerable but not like they lost Watt. You dont allow 73 points in two games and make the playoffs. (Unless some garbage division luck like this year) Some of their talent on D isnt getting it done.

They might need some key veteran addition to set the tone.

I really like the O but the D only looks good in spots and can't hold up. If their draft and free agency activity is heavy on defense, then I'll be all aboard this train.

I am impressed with Bortles. I don't think he should have to be defenseless like Marino or Brees. I'm not sure he at that extreme high level either. Get him a D that can hold the opposing offense tk less than he can score

 
The Marks loss is pretty big when you consider their abysmal pass rush was helped substantially last year by Marks' inside penetration. No, I can't compare him to Watt in either position or production but it's still a substantial.And I don't think Marks was ever fully healthy this year. He didn't look the same even when he played.

I don't think that anybody is going to argue when you say the Jags need better players on defense. The frustrating part is watching Gus trot out the same players that give you literally nothing in the stat sheet, play the same system and throw up his hands.(Clemons and Branch have multiple weeks where combined they have as many penalties as tackles. Think about that.). I don't expect Chris Smith or Ryan Davis to provide all of the answers but try something, man.

The Jags have lost 5 games by 7 points or less. If they were able to generate some defensive results that were only kind of bad, they'd still be in this.

 
Jaguars offseason defensive shopping list

- Another passrusher in addition to Fowler. It could eb a mid-round rookie but they need bodies since Clemons and Branch better not be back. The tackles and the "big End" are solid.

- A MLB to replace Poz. He needs to be put out to pasture as you watch TE's have a field day. Telvin is much more natural outside. I like Skuta in the Otto but they need depth behind him.

- Teh corners are actually pretty solid if the QB doesn't have 5 seconds to pass.

- Possible multiple safeties.Definitely need a FS upgrade. Sergio Brown/Josh Evans are depth/special teams depth at best. Are they willing to commit to Cyp? He's had his ups and downs.

Is Gus back year?Do we see a new DC?

 
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