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Indefinite Tampa Bay Bucs thread: Somehow not on the list of teams to never have won a Super Bowl (3 Viewers)

gump said:
'Eagles made big offer to Bucs for the #1 pick'. :lmao:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/05/01/eagles-made-big-offer-to-bucs/

Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the Eagles offered the following to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers for the first pick in the draft: the 20th pick in this year’s draft; Philly’s first-round pick in 2016; quarterback Sam Bradford; and another player on the roster.
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You're going to look back and wish they'd taken it.

 
cstu said:
gump said:
'Eagles made big offer to Bucs for the #1 pick'. :lmao:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/05/01/eagles-made-big-offer-to-bucs/

Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the Eagles offered the following to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers for the first pick in the draft: the 20th pick in this year’s draft; Philly’s first-round pick in 2016; quarterback Sam Bradford; and another player on the roster.
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You're going to look back and wish they'd taken it.
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Yep. The same people that cover the bucs and are liking the Winston pick will dive off the bandwagon when the wheels fall off, blame the GM and HC for taking Winston when they could have traded down, got Bradford and another 1st. It will be late 2016 when that happens. Fist they will suffer thru his suckage for a year and a 1/2.

 
lod01 said:
cstu said:
gump said:
'Eagles made big offer to Bucs for the #1 pick'. :lmao:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/05/01/eagles-made-big-offer-to-bucs/

Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the Eagles offered the following to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers for the first pick in the draft: the 20th pick in this year’s draft; Philly’s first-round pick in 2016; quarterback Sam Bradford; and another player on the roster.
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You're going to look back and wish they'd taken it.
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Yep. The same people that cover the bucs and are liking the Winston pick will dive off the bandwagon when the wheels fall off, blame the GM and HC for taking Winston when they could have traded down, got Bradford and another 1st. It will be late 2016 when that happens. Fist they will suffer thru his suckage for a year and a 1/2.
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Whaaaat? that medieval.. jk. This guy has some Manziel in him for sure, no money signs but plenty of crab leg. I hope he works out for TB. They or Jax need to be relevant, some team in Florida needs to step up.

 
lod01 said:
cstu said:
gump said:
'Eagles made big offer to Bucs for the #1 pick'. :lmao:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/05/01/eagles-made-big-offer-to-bucs/

Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the Eagles offered the following to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers for the first pick in the draft: the 20th pick in this years draft; Phillys first-round pick in 2016; quarterback Sam Bradford; and another player on the roster.
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You're going to look back and wish they'd taken it.
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Yep. The same people that cover the bucs and are liking the Winston pick will dive off the bandwagon when the wheels fall off, blame the GM and HC for taking Winston when they could have traded down, got Bradford and another 1st. It will be late 2016 when that happens. Fist they will suffer thru his suckage for a year and a 1/2.
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Can you two leave this thread please?

 
gump said:
lod01 said:
cstu said:
gump said:
'Eagles made big offer to Bucs for the #1 pick'. :lmao:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/05/01/eagles-made-big-offer-to-bucs/

Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the Eagles offered the following to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers for the first pick in the draft: the 20th pick in this years draft; Phillys first-round pick in 2016; quarterback Sam Bradford; and another player on the roster.
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You're going to look back and wish they'd taken it.
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Yep. The same people that cover the bucs and are liking the Winston pick will dive off the bandwagon when the wheels fall off, blame the GM and HC for taking Winston when they could have traded down, got Bradford and another 1st. It will be late 2016 when that happens. Fist they will suffer thru his suckage for a year and a 1/2.
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Can you two leave this thread please?
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Within 2 years you will be thinking to yourself: 'Jesus, Winston sucks and these guys knew it when I had no clue'.

 
jurb26 said:
Winston and back to back OL, gotta like that.
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I'm glad to see they did the right thing this year. No head scratchers like Simms from last year.

I don't know anything about the WR out of Nebraska, but I can't believe they didn't try and take Rashad Green. I was shocked he slid to the 5th round.

 
Quez said:
jurb26 said:
Winston and back to back OL, gotta like that.
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I'm glad to see they did the right thing this year. No head scratchers like Simms from last year.

I don't know anything about the WR out of Nebraska, but I can't believe they didn't try and take Rashad Green. I was shocked he slid to the 5th round.
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His nickname is "Afro Thunder."

 
Matt Waldman seems to really like him:

Kenny Bell, Nebraska: The former scout team receiver for the Cornhuskers knew he was never going to earn 80-90 catches a year in the Nebraska offense. However, the son of former Denver Broncos running back and return specialist Ken Bell cares about competing. It’s why he wears the blue scout team jersey under his uniform.

It’s why the offense preferred to run to this 197-pound receiver’s side. It’s why Bell left the scouts at the Nebraska Pro Day with incredulous looks on their faces when they saw that he chose to run the 40 again because he was disappointed with his 4.42-second time at the NFL Combine.

Both times were in the 4.3’s and Bell said it took everything he had not to compete in the vertical jump, because he was even more disappointed in his 41.5-inch leap in Indianapolis. In case you didn’t know, Bell’s performances in the combine drills were among the best at his position.

His vertical was the fifth-best among receivers since 2006. His three-cone drill of 6.66 seconds was the 15th-best. And Bell’s 4.42-40 and 4.15-short shuttle are excellent for a wide receiver. The player he compares to physically and stylistically is Emmanuel Sanders, who had a 6.64-three cone, a 4.10 short shuttle, a 4.4-40, and a 39.5-vertical.

But Bell plays with a more physical edge. He told my colleague Turron Davenport that the player he aspires to is Demaryius Thomas. Davenport, a former college receiver noted how unusual it is for a 6-1, 197-pound receiver to model himself after a 6-5 giant, but Bell made it clear that he’s a physical player and felt Thomas is the most physical receiver without the ball in the league.

With that in mind, Julio Jones is a big, physical player with great athleticism. His 6.66-three-cone, 4.25-short shuttle, 4.39- 40, and a 38.5 vertical only best Bell in one category.

Bell’s competitive streak is why when he drops the football, which he does a little more than you’d like from a top prospect, he comes back and makes a bigger play than the miscue he had earlier. Be it sending an opponent into the cheap seats with a hit in the open field to spring a teammate, a recovered fumble, catching the rebound of a deflected pass for a touchdown, or making a reception with his thighs on a much-needed third-and-long target in the fourth quarter, Bell displays a competitive streak that is sure to bring opportunities.

The NFL and by proxy, some of the draft community, underrates Bell because Nebraska is not a hotbed for wide receiver talent. Irving Fryar is the last NFL starting wide receiver from Nebraska. He was the No.1 overall pick in 1984.

Bell has average size and a portfolio of stats that don’t leap off the page. His rate of one touchdown per 8.5 touches is a good number (15th overall) among the top 35 receivers in this class—especially in a run-heavy offense with less than stellar quarterback play. However, there’s nothing dominant about his stats that you can correlate with how he’s acquiring that production—or how meaningful that production has been to his team.

What is meaningful is that Bell has the techniques, the athleticism, the knack for timely plays, and the physical and mental toughness to compete until the very end that will translate to the NFL. He’s a deep threat also capable of earning the tough yards over the middle. Put him in Minnesota, and he’ll make Mike Wallace expendable within a year or two.

A short-yardage slant, cross, and screen player who can also win the 50/50 balls down field. A dependable blocker who will energize the defense watching him from the sidelines. If Pittsburgh takes Bell, they’ll have drafted equal parts Emmanuel Sanders and Hines Ward. Baltimore will have another player to hate with a passion. If Baltimore takes Bell, it will be its revenge on Pittsburgh for inflicting Ward on them year after year.

Put Bell in New Orleans, and he’ll be an upgrade to what they lost in Kenny Stills—a deep threat who Drew Brees can throw open in tight coverage. But they’ll also get a more rugged blocker for a running game the Saints so desperately want, but can’t get to click.

Other than some concentration drops, Bell is a much better prospect than his production indicates. Don’t be surprised if Bell isn’t picked before the fifth round. At the same time, be prepared for the team that picks Bell to discover it has a future starter that they can’t keep off the field by 2016.

What else would you expect from a player whose built like Emmanuel Sanders but whose role model is Demaryius Thomas?
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Waldman did a really in depth hangout on Winston going through plays in the ND game. It should still be on YouTube.

 
When talking at length about the selection process regarding Tampa Bay quarterback Jameis Winston, Bucs general manager Jason Licht relayed a story with me that Florida State head coach Jimbo Fisher shared with he and head coach Lovie Smith.

“Jimbo told Lovie and I a story when Jameis was a true freshman [in 2012] and he redshirted that year,” Licht said. “Jimbo gave him a 15-play period with the first-team just to see what he had. They were going to redshirt him, but he wanted to see him. Jameis didn’t do so well in those 15 plays and Jimbo went out there and called the practice off and yelled and screamed. He said, ‘Practice is over if we’re going to play like this’ as most coaches do. Then out of the corner of his eye he saw Jameis run to the entrance and exit of the practice field and he perched right there. And with every player that passed by him Jameis said, ‘This will never happen again. I will never let you down again. This is on me, and I will never play like this again.’ This is as a true freshman.

“Jimbo said he drove by on his golf cart looking disgusted and then once he got past Jameis he smiled and thought to himself, ‘I know what I’ve got!’ He had a great player. That’s Jameis. It’s real. It’s not fake. I had my binoculars on Jameis every game I’ve attended and I’ve had my eyes on him the whole game. He makes a point to talk to every player before the game. It’s unique. It’s not fake. It’s him. He makes everybody want to play hard for him.”
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I have season tickets at NU and Bell can play. He has an uncanny knack for making amazing catches and dropping the easy ones. He is a ferocious blocker and plays bigger than he is. He's really a small guy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KH75LwUtqI0 He is good in punt returns too. A good locker room guy and fans adore him...I think for his hair more than anything.

Quez said:
jurb26 said:
Winston and back to back OL, gotta like that.
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I'm glad to see they did the right thing this year. No head scratchers like Simms from last year.

I don't know anything about the WR out of Nebraska, but I can't believe they didn't try and take Rashad Green. I was shocked he slid to the 5th round.
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MANKINS READY FOR A REBOUND YEAR IN TAMPA BAY

Desperately needing help at the guard position last year, Tampa Bay general manager Jason Licht traded backup tight end Tim Wright and a fourth-round pick to New England for a face that he and director of player personnel Jon Robinson were familiar with – Patriots stalwart Logan Mankins. New England wanted him to take a pay cut, and even with time not on his side at age 32, Mankins balked and fell out of favor within the organization.

As a result, Licht sensed that Mankins could be had and made the trade a week before the start of the 2014 campaign. Licht was promptly crucified for it by Bucs fans and by some in the media, suggesting that trading for an aging guard was a panicked move. Unfortunately for Licht and the Bucs, Mankins’ play on the field at times last year justified some of the criticism.

Mankins was shocked to learn that he was traded from a perennial Super Bowl contender to a bad, rebuilding team in Tampa Bay, and it took him a little while to wrap his head around it. He was separated from his family for the season and had to adjust to a new city, a new team and a new scheme – all within one week of opening day. Mankins, a six-time Pro Bowler, was in game shape for a cooler part of the country like New England, but not in the kind of shape that’s necessary to play in the hot and humid climate of Tampa, Fla. where it truly doesn’t cool off until late October.

Playing next to teammates in Anthony Collins and Evan Dietrich-Smith, who were both new to the Buccaneers themselves, and in a scheme that didn’t have an offensive coordinator with Jeff Tedford shelved due to a heart ailment, Mankins didn’t play up to his standards in his first season in Tampa Bay. Making matters worse was a knee injury he suffered in the season-opening loss against Carolina that hampered his play during the rest of the year.

But Mankins, now 33 years old, is a man on a mission, telling the Bucs organization that he started working out earlier in the offseason than he ever did before. He showed up in April for offseason conditioning with six-pack abs – for the first time in his NFL career – which shocked the Bucs’ brass, coaches and players with how he’s transformed his body over the past few months.

Mankins informed Bucs management that he will make amends for last season and that he intends to prove all of his critics wrong this year. Mankins said he’s driven to make the Pro Bowl in 2015 after missing it last season, which snapped a five-year streak.

Mankins has taken on a more vocal leadership role this offseason at One Buccaneer Place during the team’s OTAs. When the Bucs transition to special teams during practice, instead of resting on the sidelines with the rest of the offensive linemen, Mankins runs gassers on the adjacent practice field.

On the first day of OTAs, Mankins had two offensive linemen volunteer to join him. The next day, he yelled at the rest of the offensive linemen to join him and run gassers, which they did. A stronger, leaner, well-conditioned Mankins always finishes his gassers first and hasn’t been beaten yet.

Mankins drew rave reviews last year from his fellow linemen, especially the younger ones, for helping them and lending them some of the wisdom he’s accumulated over his 10-year NFL career. He helped in the meeting room, in the film room, in the locker room and on the field.

Shortly after the team drafted offensive tackle Donovan Smith and guard Ali Marpet in the second round, Mankins sent Bucs management a congratulatory text and promptly asked for those linemen’s cell phone numbers so that he could reach out to them right away. Mankins did contact them and welcomed to Tampa Bay, offering himself up as a resource to help them get ready to start this season.

Smith will be playing right next to Mankins and will receive a good deal of help on the field. The Bucs see Marpet as a tough, hard-nosed, blue-collar guard like Mankins, and he will serve as a great role model and mentor for the Hobart College product.

But both young Buccaneers linemen had better be warned. They better keep up with the old man during those gassers because Mankins is back with a vengeance this year.
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I enjoyed reading that. :thumbup:

 
LaVonte extended.

Even without signing any major free agents, not that you can blame them, there has been a lot to get excited about this off-season. It will be interesting to see if they go after anyone else to upgrade either of the lines before the season.

 
Quez said:
Grahamburn said:
Capella said:
I imagine Dotson is done for the year. I'm no real or fake doctor but that looked really bad.
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They're saying it's a sprain. Still might start on PUP and miss the first six weeks.
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I'm not brushing off a sprain. Michael Johnson had a sprain early last year, and he wasn't right all season.
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I feel bad for him. He deserved to get paid, but I imagine there will be motivation for him to come back strong. MJ did not have that same fire.

 
@gregauman: Lovie Smith confirms that Bruce Carter is now getting work at strongside linebacker and competing with Danny Lansanah for that job ...

 
I guess Danny Lansana is the odd man out. He should still see plenty of time as a backup. It is nice to have depth at a position. He was good on special teams as well.

 
Quez said:
I guess Danny Lansana is the odd man out. He should still see plenty of time as a backup. It is nice to have depth at a position. He was good on special teams as well.
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I don't think there is any chance Carter beats him out. He's fairly well entrenched I believe.

 
KCBuc said:
I have season tickets at NU and Bell can play. He has an uncanny knack for making amazing catches and dropping the easy ones. He is a ferocious blocker and plays bigger than he is. He's really a small guy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KH75LwUtqI0 He is good in punt returns too. A good locker room guy and fans adore him...I think for his hair more than anything.

Quez said:
jurb26 said:
Winston and back to back OL, gotta like that.
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I'm glad to see they did the right thing this year. No head scratchers like Simms from last year.

I don't know anything about the WR out of Nebraska, but I can't believe they didn't try and take Rashad Green. I was shocked he slid to the 5th round.
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KCBuc said:
I have season tickets at NU and Bell can play. He has an uncanny knack for making amazing catches and dropping the easy ones. He is a ferocious blocker and plays bigger than he is. He's really a small guy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KH75LwUtqI0 He is good in punt returns too. A good locker room guy and fans adore him...I think for his hair more than anything.

Quez said:
jurb26 said:
Winston and back to back OL, gotta like that.
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I'm glad to see they did the right thing this year. No head scratchers like Simms from last year.

I don't know anything about the WR out of Nebraska, but I can't believe they didn't try and take Rashad Green. I was shocked he slid to the 5th round.
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So like Stedman Bailey but a couple inches taller and worse hands?

 
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