montana_grizzly_bears
Footballguy
If GB wasn't coming off their bye I would be drinking it. Right now I'm getting the sugar and the spoon just in case they do go in there and change the streak.
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2024 Detroit Lions: Getting ready for the draft in Motown. (7 Viewers)
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Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Stopped the 20+ points given up streak @ 13 games.
Defense has to continue to get better if they are going to keep winning.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Looks like Ryan Broyles career may be in jeopardy after rupturing his achilles tendon yesterday.
2011- Torn left ACL, 2012-Torn right ACL, 2013 Torn achillles tendon. Broyles was still not 100% from the last ACL as far as speed and burst off the line and now this horrible injury. Can a WR have 3 worse injuries?
2011- Torn left ACL, 2012-Torn right ACL, 2013 Torn achillles tendon. Broyles was still not 100% from the last ACL as far as speed and burst off the line and now this horrible injury. Can a WR have 3 worse injuries?
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Grahamburn
Footballguy
Does that increase the likelihood the Lions will pursue a WR this week? If they make a move quickly they would have the bye week to get someone prepared to play.
jurb26
Footballguy
Ouch, that's devastating. I'm not sure if he can or can't but I'm hoping he can. What does this do to the Lions already thin WR corp? Man, it's Calvin or nothing for them. If Calvin or Bush go down this offense is in serious trouble.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Durham has been good as of late and could pick up some more targets. Lions are going to have to bring another WR in though for depth. The bad thing is now the Lions have wasted two high draft picks on WRs... Titus Young and Broyles.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
burleson should be back after the bye week.
Gotta think if the lions dont win the division they can get a wildcard. With ATL struggling and Chicago having big time injury issues the other wildcard opposite SF is theirs to take, most likely competition is Carolina/Chicago/Arizona. I dont think the NFC east will get two teams in the playoffs
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
No excuses now, first division in 20 years is there for the taking. QB injuries have helped get them there, they just have to find a way to take advantage & keep winning.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
FORWARD DOWN THE FIELD!
TartanLion
Footballguy
Larry Warford feels left out
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Yes, the SOL seem to be only the same in that they always find a new way to lose. Turnovers as always a key.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
awful.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Good comeback game, but need to take that to a higher level on the road vs an actual QB this week. Not always their strong suit.
Foosball God
Foos
Time for Schwartz to go
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Past due. I really wish that Tom Lewand and Mayhew are shown the door as well. When Millen was fired they kept Lewand and Mayhew and the culture of the Lions remained.
The Lions will back in and win the North with an 8-8 record and all with get extensions.
Question I asked in another thread: Would you rather the Lions lose and clean house, or squeak into the playoffs? There's almost zero chance they could do much once they got there against a SF/NO/Car -- one thing we've learned about the Lions this year is that they can't win big games against the power teams -- and it seems like winning the division could salvage Schwartz's job. I just don't see them winning anything with that guy in charge. Even worse, despite the fact that I've been a Lions fan all my life, I find the Schwartz-led Lions to be distinctly unlikeable. I like most of the players, even Suh, but I can totally see how if I weren't a fan I would just hate them. Guys who blow games via dumb penalties, turnovers and mental mistakes are "lovable losers". They're just losers.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Lions fans get kicked in the nuts hard by this team week in and week out..we curl up in the fetal position and deal with the pain in the nuts and nausea to the stomach area delivered from the boots of the Lions. We slowly recover and then come back only get kicked in the nuts again. Why??
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Because the area is big into football and the fans would like to take that beyond the college level. They really deserve better but the feeble owner has held them back for 50 years now & running.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
If GB & Chicago both win this week it will be a moot point as they play each other week 17 & the winner of that will win the division no matter what the lions do.
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playin4beer
Footballguy
Last night was a rough loss... a 61 yard field goal?? 
Gotta think the Steelers can beat the Pack if Rodgers isn't back and hopefully he can come back next week and beat Da Bears... Oh, and the Lions win out...
Gotta think the Steelers can beat the Pack if Rodgers isn't back and hopefully he can come back next week and beat Da Bears... Oh, and the Lions win out...
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
this collapse has pretty much been on Stafford. 3 ints last night, 4 vs tampa, 17 on the season
He isn't elite. and he curls up and dies in the clutch now
Terrible
He isn't elite. and he curls up and dies in the clutch now
Terrible
jurb26
Footballguy
51 drops on the year by the Lions. I don't think any other team is in the 40s. There are a lot of problems in Det, not just Stafford.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
when your QB makes mistakes, is constantly throwing side arm and over shooting guys. Hes pretty much the #1 problem.
jurb26
Footballguy
Right, those throws to Calvin that were right on the money were the QBs problem.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Calvin had uncharactistic drop last night
How about the 2 point pass? uncatchable high n outside fastballs
You a Stafford apologist or something? He has played like dog####
jurb26
Footballguy
The 2 point pass was perfect. Stafford made bad plays last night but putting it all on him is ridiculous.
matuski
Footballguy
He throws side arm... do you credit his good throws for being side armed the same way you blame his bad throws for being side armed?bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
All 3 throws Calvin dropped were on the mark (the 2 point conversion pass could not have been better), all 3 side armed.
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BobbyLayne
Footballguy
He has very bad mechanics and his footwork has not improved over five years in the league. It would make him a better QB if they found someone to coach him up on his weaknesses.
He gets away with, in the same Favre did his entire career, because he has a cannon. IMO the big arm has made him lazy; not sure he'll ever really want to make any drastic changes to his approach.
I do like Stafford as a leader and think he has tremendous resiliency. He's the right kind of guy to have at the most important position. He's positive, energetic and his teammates believe in him.
But I would have to agree that from a consistency and efficiency standpoint, he's average or slightly above average. Usage helped him compile numbers in 2011 & 2012; they have a better run game this year - Warford and Waddle have solidified the right side - but he makes too many costly errors.
It's not just him. The defense plays well in stretches, then gives up a big play or commits stupid penalties. Though it was not the case in the most recent collapse, they typically get off to bad starts or see a reversal of trends in the 2nd half. Those two things have been a hallmark of the Schwartz regime. I'm of the opinion that points to his lack of preparation and his inability to adjust in game. The team lacks discipline, and again, I think that is on the coaches, and it starts with the HC.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Lot of bandwagoners jumped on the Tigers the last three years - its always been a great baseball town when they're competitive - and the Red Wings have had an incredible couple decades, as good as any franchise in any sport. But I've always believed it would be known as a football town if they weren't so inept. Michiganders love football at every level. F'n WCF doesn't understand excellence, Way too much emphasis on loyalty and giving coaches/GMs that 4th/5th/6th chance.Leroy Hoard said:
Do you guys realize that ******* actually sign the docs to purchase the Lions on the same day JFK got shot? Cursed.
matuski
Footballguy
I don't disagree at all, i just find it odd to blame his bad throws on his mechanics... seemingly oblivious to the fact he throws like that all the time. Good, bad, in between.. all side arm. He has made some bad decisions this year in particular, and he certainly should improve footwork. Changing his throwing mechanics (arm) isn't gonna happen.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Vector
Footballguy
Sweetness_34
Footballguy
Stafford is an awful awful QB period....keep chucking it up all the time! Nice strategy up 7 against the freaking Giants. I remember he had like a 4 or 5 int game a couple of years or so back in Soldier Field....nice job paying all that money to this over-rated QB. Without Calvin, this guy would be on the street
jabarony
Footballguy
He's not awful. The problem is, he's just good enough to keep around. It's not like the Lions have a JAC/MIN/NYJ/OAK/CLE... level of QB play where making a QB change is a top priority. It's kind of like flipping a coin with this guy, he can win you any game or lose you any game. It's next to impossible to win a championship, though, if you are counting on that coin landing on heads 10-12 time out of 16, then 3 more in the playoffs.
TartanLion
Footballguy
Simply awful.
Schwartz reaction to the crowd booing him when we took the knee with 26 seconds, 2 TO's, 4+ WRs that are 6'4+ and a QB who at least can throw it long, was a disgrace.
This fanbase has been put through the ringer time and again, and this season we have chucked away a division title that was literally being handed to us on a silver platter. Heaven forbid that they should actually ####### do something first to help us believing again and getting behind them.
We have lost all four games at home to Bengals, Buccaneers, Ravens and Giants. We pretty much threw all of them away. The season has seemed to wash away from the moment we ran a fake field goal with a rookie in rain soaked conditions at Pittsburgh.
It may be that we can never have success with these owners, but whilst we have them, we still need to at least pretend to try, and therefore sack this entire coaching staff. Mayhew and Xander made strides this season so that is open to debate, but our O simply disappeared these past six odd weeks.
Schwartz in game decisions or lack of have been an absolute disaster. The apparent complete lack of due diligence with regards to fundamentals and preparation has been imo evidenced in the glut of turnovers.
We need an offensive minded HC to make the best of the weapons we have and actually create plays with an OC that aren't the worst in the league. He needs to be good with QBs and work on fixing some of Staffords problems and getting his confidence back.
Schwartz reaction to the crowd booing him when we took the knee with 26 seconds, 2 TO's, 4+ WRs that are 6'4+ and a QB who at least can throw it long, was a disgrace.
This fanbase has been put through the ringer time and again, and this season we have chucked away a division title that was literally being handed to us on a silver platter. Heaven forbid that they should actually ####### do something first to help us believing again and getting behind them.
We have lost all four games at home to Bengals, Buccaneers, Ravens and Giants. We pretty much threw all of them away. The season has seemed to wash away from the moment we ran a fake field goal with a rookie in rain soaked conditions at Pittsburgh.
It may be that we can never have success with these owners, but whilst we have them, we still need to at least pretend to try, and therefore sack this entire coaching staff. Mayhew and Xander made strides this season so that is open to debate, but our O simply disappeared these past six odd weeks.
Schwartz in game decisions or lack of have been an absolute disaster. The apparent complete lack of due diligence with regards to fundamentals and preparation has been imo evidenced in the glut of turnovers.
We need an offensive minded HC to make the best of the weapons we have and actually create plays with an OC that aren't the worst in the league. He needs to be good with QBs and work on fixing some of Staffords problems and getting his confidence back.
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Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Where do the Lions go after the collapse of 2013? A 1-6 finish.
Who would have thunk the fake FG blunder in Pitt "may" end up costing Schwartz his job in the long run. That game was the turning point of the season. Lions kick the chip shot there and go up 7 in the 4th who knows what would have happened.
Right now I really wish that Tom Lewand, Mayhew, Schwartz, and the whole staff would be canned and clean house correctly this time. Of course The Fords will never do that because they like familiar faces around.
In fact I would be very surprised if Schwartz is even fired after this debacle.
Who would have thunk the fake FG blunder in Pitt "may" end up costing Schwartz his job in the long run. That game was the turning point of the season. Lions kick the chip shot there and go up 7 in the 4th who knows what would have happened.
Right now I really wish that Tom Lewand, Mayhew, Schwartz, and the whole staff would be canned and clean house correctly this time. Of course The Fords will never do that because they like familiar faces around.
In fact I would be very surprised if Schwartz is even fired after this debacle.
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Sabertooth
Footballguy
I sure hope he's gone. Plenty of talent to win that division. You had two good teams to contend with who both lost their QBs. Nuthin.
