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1 hour ago, zftcg said:

Reminds me of the Peyton-era Colts. Everyone used to say, "This is a different defense when they don't have Bob Sanders." But eventually we had to accept that Sanders was so injury prone, the Sanders-less version *was* the Colts' defense. And yes, it's entirely possible Levy will never be what he was in 2014.

It is entirely possible of course, and more likely probably. All I was suggesting is that he's been so snake bitten that we haven't actually had the chance to see evidence thus far that he is a diminished player if and when he does make it onto the pitch. 

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I believe this is the first win the Lions have ever had in January.

I’m usually not one to get caught up in “celebrity” lives, but as a parent my ♥️ goes out to Matthew & Kelly. Her six hour brain surgery morphed into a twelve hour procedure, but she’s walking and

4 hours ago, TartanLion said:

Will bow to your superior knowledge, but Levy has spent what ? One half of football this season, and one half of football last season on the pitch ? Thats very grim reading when I put it like that, but has he been on the pitch enough to suggest he's not the same player when fit ? And I realise how paradoxical that statement is to a degree.

 

Anyways, still no news of when he'll be back. The closing of the shop on that front this year has to be Quinn's Patriot influence.

 
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Bow down to my superior knowledge.
 
So you're saying being I'm arrogant for thinking the issue might be coaching? It's not like I'm not the only asking that question.
 
Caldwell, Austin & Cooter all have weekly presser - LIVE stream & then it's in the clubs website. The issue has been raised last year and this year that our opponents often make halftime adjustments. That seems rational doesn't it? Not working, let's try something different. We keep getting burned by the same thing, let's try a different way to defend that.
 
Our coaches feel that when a game doesn't work, they should keep trying the same thing. Austin has specifically addressed that aspect of that in game coaching several times this year. 
 
Does that seem rational? 
 
:shrug:
 
You guys say it's personnel & talent. Last time I checked Cooter was game planning with a fourth string RB, no TE & a rookie C making his first NFL start out of position versus an all pro DT. 
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Think you've misunderstood me, I was genuinely saying that I would defer to your better knowledge, as you have followed the sport for a lot longer and know it much better than me re Levy looking diminished. 

My only comment about that was that I'd like to see what he looks like as a player if we do ever get him back onto the pitch for a proper run of games where he can find his groove again. You never know, maybe he does get back to his best. Maybe he never plays again though. Who knows.  

 

I said in my initial post today that despite us being down men I've been kind of disappointed in  Austin for not having our D a bit more effective thus far, so I agree with you man, you seem to think I was having a dig at you when it couldn't be further from the truth. 

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34 minutes ago, TartanLion said:

Think you've misunderstood me, I was genuinely saying that I would defer to your better knowledge, as you have followed the sport for a lot longer and know it much better than me re Levy looking diminished. 

My only comment about that was that I'd like to see what he looks like as a player if we do ever get him back onto the pitch for a proper run of games where he can find his groove again. You never know, maybe he does get back to his best. Maybe he never plays again though. Who knows.  

 

I said in my initial post today that despite us being down men I've been kind of disappointed in  Austin for not having our D a bit more effective thus far, so I agree with you man, you seem to think I was having a dig at you when it couldn't be further from the truth. 

Fair enough pard, I apologize for reading it wrong. We sometimes forget you and I are separated by a common language. 

You going to Twickenham?

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2 hours ago, TartanLion said:

Think you've misunderstood me, I was genuinely saying that I would defer to your better knowledge, as you have followed the sport for a lot longer and know it much better than me re Levy looking diminished. 

My only comment about that was that I'd like to see what he looks like as a player if we do ever get him back onto the pitch for a proper run of games where he can find his groove again. You never know, maybe he does get back to his best. Maybe he never plays again though. Who knows.  

 

I said in my initial post today that despite us being down men I've been kind of disappointed in  Austin for not having our D a bit more effective thus far, so I agree with you man, you seem to think I was having a dig at you when it couldn't be further from the truth. 

Ha, I knew exactly what you meant. There's a conversation upthread where BL asked my perspective on something (I think it was the Lions' backfield), and I offered a fairly basic, surface-level response. He then answered his own question at a level of detail that literally made me question whether I knew anything about football. :)

So Bobby -- and I say this with zero sarcasm or irony -- I too bow to your superior knowledge. :thumbup:

Also agree with both of you that a) I'd like to see what that D looks like with Levy healthy, and b) it's possible Austin isn't as good a coach as we thought a couple years ago, though I really hope that's not the case.

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I was a huge TA fan; wanted him elevated & JC fired last year. Hope I'm wrong about my speculation today. Just frustrated we cannot stop anyone - making guys like Hoyer & Keenum look like pro bowlers is embarrassing.

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15 hours ago, BobbyLayne said:

Fair enough pard, I apologize for reading it wrong. We sometimes forget you and I are separated by a common language. 

You going to Twickenham?

No worries I figured it was lost in translation. 

Nope not going to Twickenham, but going to Bengals v Redskins for our annual trip. I was spoiled getting the Lions two years in a row. Although last year was x rated of course. 9 of us this year, should be a car crash ?

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Hope Swanson's hand is OK. Really hurting all over the place, could use a few guys coming back this week. #checkthereport

 

When the schedule came out, I pegged this 3 game stretch as the key to making it as a 5/6 seed. 2 down 1 to go.

 

Stsrtng to see more consistency from the O-line.

 

#thatdefensetho

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If we had only at least split the Titans, Bears games. No point looking back though.

Ideally if we can win the next two games ( I've long since given up trying to apply logic to us, but the next two games are most definitely winnable ), then we might be in good shape. Packers seem to be wobbling a little, but I still expect them to turn it around and have me feeling stupid for even considering for a single second that we could maybe finish ahead of them.

Is it possible that two wildcards could come out of our division ? NFC East teams in recent all seem to be much of a muchness ( and not very good across the board ), meaning their records can all be tight, NFC South I wouldn't expect a wildcard from, NFC West I expect Seattle to win and for the Cards to pick up and Rams to slide.

Can we get our D on track a little ? Next four games WAS,@HOU,@MIN,JAX. Would be great if we somehow won 3 out of those 4

 

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11 hours ago, jomar said:

Stafford playing at a very high level right now.  arguably the best qb in the NFC North this year

Actually, you could have left it at the NFC. Gutty win. They got outplayed statistically and the time of possession was tilted badly but the difference was Stafford. Ran when it was appropriate and was accurate per usual this year.

I would be amiss if I didn't mention a couple of fortunate bounces but hey, dems da breaks. Take em when you get them and win the game.

I'd really like to see what this team could have been if healthy on defense. 

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19 hours ago, Da Guru said:

Lions 3-0 since Ebron has been out..Boldin making the tough catches. TE actually blocking.  

That 3WR-1RB offense where the TE Wick stays in to block is their most effective formation. Boldin was a man out there the way he pushed his way in for the final score. And he didn't drop it either.

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Boldin has been a great find. My 49ers supporting mate text me 'You're going to love him' when that deal happened. Just a gritty gritty consummate pro. Only mild nitpick is that he's been blown up for 4-5 holding calls in the past smattering of games, but hey, thats life. I'd be far happier if the other receivers tightened up on the drops rather than that particular issue.

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15 minutes ago, matuski said:

Your what?

My friend, whose favourite team is the San Francisco 49ers, text me when we grabbed Boldin to say that we would absolutely love having him on our roster. 

Anybody watch the game last night ? Texans are banged up just now. If we're going to make a wildcard run we need to beat teams of this quality, or lack thereof. 

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On 10/24/2016 at 9:38 AM, Futz said:

Actually, you could have left it at the NFC. Gutty win. They got outplayed statistically and the time of possession was tilted badly but the difference was Stafford. Ran when it was appropriate and was accurate per usual this year.

Oh what the hell, let's go for best in the NFL.

(To be fair, Barnwell doesn't actually say that. His main point is that we're overlooking Stafford's resurgence, and there's no clear case that any other QB is playing better than him right now.)

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5 hours ago, zftcg said:

Oh what the hell, let's go for best in the NFL.

(To be fair, Barnwell doesn't actually say that. His main point is that we're overlooking Stafford's resurgence, and there's no clear case that any other QB is playing better than him right now.)

" Stafford has put together an All-Pro caliber season over his past 16 games. He has completed nearly 69 percent of his passes, while throwing for 4,310 yards, with 35 touchdowns against just eight picks."

I don't know if he's All-Pro, the only knock on Tom Brady is he missed four games. Matt Ryan has probably been the best QB YTD. But the fifth highest paid QB in the NFL is playing like he deserves his salary.

4QC - 4, 1st (Luck, Wilson -3)

GWD - 4, 1st (Manning - 4, Luck -3)

 

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On ‎10‎/‎24‎/‎2016 at 9:38 AM, Futz said:

Actually, you could have left it at the NFC. Gutty win. They got outplayed statistically and the time of possession was tilted badly but the difference was Stafford. Ran when it was appropriate and was accurate per usual this year.

I would be amiss if I didn't mention a couple of fortunate bounces but hey, dems da breaks. Take em when you get them and win the game.

I'd really like to see what this team could have been if healthy on defense. 

I was trying not to get too carried away.  Last night on NFLN, they were pimping him as a possible MVP candidate.  I just hope he can keep it up and get us to the playoffs and, heaven forbid, a playoff W (or two) :)

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Traded him and a 7th rounder to Pats for a 6th rounder. Following last years draft that is basically giving him away to move up 15th places. Man our 2nd round draft picks under Mayhew have been an abomination. Minus Slay. 

May seem weird given how low we are on LBs but Bynes is back now and maybe just possibly maybe it could be a little hint of good news in confidence in Levy returning. Maybe not. 

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I don't get it.  His cap hit is next to nothing and he's been getting a decent amount of playing time.  His number does jump over 1 mill next season I guess.  I've been wondering why Bynes wasn't re-signed.  He played pretty well last year. 

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3 hours ago, jomar said:

I was trying not to get too carried away.  Last night on NFLN, they were pimping him as a possible MVP candidate.  I just hope he can keep it up and get us to the playoffs and, heaven forbid, a playoff W (or two) :)

He's playing the best football of his career and this is the first season I feel he's actually elevating the players around him but honestly it feels like the NFL is grasping for a fresh new story to showcase. The NFL is down in so many ways. Too many ways to count. A lot of the usual superstars (Peyton/ADP/ODB/Cam etc...) are either non-existent or not worth the pub at this point. Don't get me wrong, he's one of the only reasons they have a winning record but it feels like a reach until he single handedly gets them to the playoffs AND wins a meaningful game at that point.

He's a good team guy. I root for his type of player (Huge Peyton fan) but in the end, it won't matter unless he makes a playoff wave. I give him a ton of credit for excelling under the promise of a new monster contract heading his way. Not everyone can do that. He has completely forced the Lion's hand to resign him even if it handcuffs the rest of the roster going forward. WTF else can they do besides turn into the Rams by letting him go?

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1 hour ago, TartanLion said:

Traded him and a 7th rounder to Pats for a 6th rounder. Following last years draft that is basically giving him away to move up 15th places. Man our 2nd round draft picks under Mayhew have been an abomination. Minus Slay. 

May seem weird given how low we are on LBs but Bynes is back now and maybe just possibly maybe it could be a little hint of good news in confidence in Levy returning. Maybe not. 

It's pretty puzzling to say the least. Our weakest position on the roster just got depleted of even more depth. I'm thinking there was more to this story. Was he complaining or turning into a locker room cancer? Nothing in is history suggests that but it makes you wonder. It could also be a precursor to another move. It certainly suggests Levy is coming back to the fray.

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I agree that it seems like they know Slay is coming back soon and this opens a spot. They also have offense guys coming back so roster spots will get kind of tight.

Or they just wanted to leave next years draft earlier by skipping the 7th round.

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19 minutes ago, BobbyLayne said:

Two NFL teams have trailed in THE 4TH QUARTER OF every game they've played this year.

The Browns are 0-9.

The Lions are 5-4.

Fixed - I heard it this morning as well. :thumbup: 

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You can chalk this one up to Caldwell for a change. Sound game plan and clock management. The bashers (myself included) will have to keep it to a dull roar for a week.

Don't look now but with a bunch of home divisionals coming up, dare I say we might control our own destiny in the suddendly mediocre NFC North?

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A couple solid decisions on coin flips in addition to the clock management: Deferring the ball to the 2nd half & taking the ball first in O.T. Doesn't always work out but I did like seeing the Vikings never touch the ball in O.T.

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Gotta love picking up a half game on everyone by not playing.

Now into "control their own destiny" mode, where you wonder how things will self-destruct. They have a good chance to win at least 3 out of the next 4, so we'll see.

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1 hour ago, jon_mx said:

The Lions are in first place.  :shock:

Solid.

There's not really a lot of separation between the top 3 teams, and I do expect MIN and GB to turn it around more in the half. But Lions should remain competitive if they come out of the bye raring to go -- have some beatable teams on their schedule and in their division through the stretch for sure.

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On ‎11‎/‎13‎/‎2016 at 6:27 PM, Ilov80s said:

That damn Titans game still pisses me off. That could be a thorn, but this look like a division that can we won at 9-7. Go Lions!

I agree but the Lions could easily be 2-7 so we should be thankful.

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On ‎11‎/‎16‎/‎2016 at 11:15 PM, Dr. Brew said:

thoughts this week? thinking about taking this game in my survivor. not sure I can take a chance... has all the looks of a trap game

I did hear that teams off a bye were something like 14-8 this year :shrug:

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On 11/16/2016 at 11:15 PM, Dr. Brew said:

thoughts this week? thinking about taking this game in my survivor. not sure I can take a chance... has all the looks of a trap game

Not sure if it's superstition or just hard-won cynicism, but I'm pretty sure I've never picked the Lions in a survivor pool, and I don't see that ever changing.

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