Individual games? I break up my Lion fan career into individual decades. Lions have not won a playoff game in 27 years, a championship in 61 years.You guys are so erratic in your reactions to individual games.
Stafford is the best thing this team has going for it. He had a bad game. They had a bad game.
Right.. the best QB the franchise has had in my adult life.Individual games? I break up my Lion fan career into individual decades. Lions have not won a playoff game in 27 years, a championship in 61 years.
I like Stafford but after 10 seasons he is what he is.
That's because the talent on the roster is average at best. Even when we had Megatron, this team sucked.Da Guru said:Maybe but the offense has been bad.
I was going to say this same thing and I was born in the 60s. and its not close.Right.. the best QB the franchise has had in my adult life.
Yes but if the Lions had drafted a QB like Jay Cutler or Andy Dalton instead, the same quote would still hold true which is pretty sad.Right.. the best QB the franchise has had in my adult life.
And the same for Tom Brady. The team is bad, has always been bad.Yes but if the Lions had drafted a QB like Jay Cutler or Andy Dalton instead, the same quote would still hold true which is pretty sad.
That is not saying much though. Mitchell, Peete, Harrington, Kitna, Batch, Ferotte, Stanton, Hipple. All of those Lions starters should be been backups at best...and most were.Right.. the best QB the franchise has had in my adult life.
Nothing says much about the Lions.. but declaring the best player and QB on the team as the problem is a position I don't understand.That is not saying much though. Mitchell, Peete, Harrington, Kitna, Batch, Ferotte, Stanton, Hipple. All of those Lions starters should be been backups at best...and most were.
I do like Stafford..just he is what he is. The best Lion QB in a long time.
This has been my biggest problem with lion fans. Every player deserves criticism but to totally ignore the other 52 players while making one player the scapegoat has never made sense. Like hockey fans who only blame the starting goalie for the team being crap.Nothing says much about the Lions.. but declaring the best player and QB on the team as the problem is a position I don't understand.
So what do the Lions need now? They had 6 points going into the 4th quarter, the Seattle game they had what 7 going into the 4th quarter? Those 2 games were pivotal to the season and now we are 3-5 and looking at a 6-10, 7-9 season.Nothing says much about the Lions.. but declaring the best player and QB on the team as the problem is a position I don't understand.
Not give up ten sacks and also get rid of the stupid penalties would be a good way to start.So what do the Lions need now? They had 6 points going into the 4th quarter, the Seattle game they had what 7 going into the 4th quarter? Those 2 games were pivotal to the season and now we are 3-5 and looking at a 6-10, 7-9 season.
What do they need to score more ?
In the NFL when an offense does not produce who gets most of the blame?This has been my biggest problem with lion fans. Every player deserves criticism but to totally ignore the other 52 players while making one player the scapegoat has never made sense. Like hockey fans who only blame the starting goalie for the team being crap.
Did you watch the NFL Network last night? They blamed half the sacks on Stafford. Not me..the pundits.Not give up ten sacks and also get rid of the stupid penalties would be a good way to start.
The entire offense along with the OC to start. But I know what you mean, it's just never one player.In the NFL when an offense does not produce who gets most of the blame?
Forget that nonsense....lets talk about something important. We should be getting a good draft pick next year. What are the needs?Not give up ten sacks and also get rid of the stupid penalties would be a good way to start.
That same network comes out with a top 100 player list every year. The only lion to make that list on offense the last 2 years is stafford.Did you watch the NFL Network last night? They blamed half the sacks on Stafford. Not me..the pundits.
Best player? I just highlighted the fact that other than stafford and slay the lions have no talent considered in the top 100 in the nfl. Go look and see what other teams have.Forget that nonsense....lets talk about something important. We should be getting a good draft pick next year. What are the needs?
A ham & egger is the best? Man they need to upgrade.Right.. the best QB the franchise has had in my adult life.
So basically looks like we are in another rebuild.Best player? I just highlighted the fact that other than stafford and slay the lions have no talent considered in the top 100 in the nfl. Go look and see what other teams have.
I watched the game. They are being generous to Stafford. He was the problem.Did you watch the NFL Network last night? They blamed half the sacks on Stafford. Not me..the pundits.
As always. ?So basically looks like we are in another rebuild.
Mostly Pass rusher and as many DBs as it takes for Teez Tabor to never see the field again. But a little bit of near everything.Forget that nonsense....lets talk about something important. We should be getting a good draft pick next year. What are the needs?
2nd best since somewhere in the 50s might be the 1.5 good years of Scott Mitchell. So yeah, not a lot of competition there.A ham & egger is the best? Man they need to upgrade.
Andre Ware?Mostly Pass rusher and as many DBs as it takes for Teez Tabor to never see the field again. But a little bit of near everything.
2nd best since somewhere in the 50s might be the 1.5 good years of Scott Mitchell. So yeah, not a lot of competition there.
Same thing I've been asking for since the 80's.So what do the Lions need now? They had 6 points going into the 4th quarter, the Seattle game they had what 7 going into the 4th quarter? Those 2 games were pivotal to the season and now we are 3-5 and looking at a 6-10, 7-9 season.
What do they need to score more ?
2 high priced FAs, 2 #1 draft choices and a 3rd pick are starters. They have invested big in the o-line and can`t keep putting picks and $$$$ into it.Same thing I've been asking for since the 80's.
A good offensive line.
none of this matters if they can't play. and they haven't been able to play for a long time.2 high priced FAs, 2 #1 draft choices and a 3rd pick are starters. They have invested big in the o-line and can`t keep putting picks and $$$$ into it.
It does matter. Lions are cap invested into the o-line and really can`t afford to draft or spend more on it.jomar said:none of this matters if they can't play. and they haven't been able to play for a long time.
you were responding to a post that stated we needed good o-line. how much we've paid or where we drafted our current o-line doesn't matter if they still suck. it doesn't help get us a good o-line just by throwing money or draft picks at the problem. we need guys who can play, I don't care if they're 6th rounders or league minimum players.It does matter. Lions are cap invested into the o-line and really can`t afford to draft or spend more on it.
Lang and Wagner were all-pros..now all of a sudden they can`t play? Decker was touted as an up and coming all-pro. Ragnow was highly rated. It is puzzling.
Cooter got the dreaded vote of confidence today by Patty.
What I am saying is this it what it is. These guys are going to be here awhile.you were responding to a post that stated we needed good o-line. how much we've paid or where we drafted our current o-line doesn't matter if they still suck. it doesn't help get us a good o-line just by throwing money or draft picks at the problem. we need guys who can play, I don't care if they're 6th rounders or league minimum players.
Lang and Wagner WERE all-pros. they are certainly not now. is it age or coaching, I don't know
I predict they cut tj lang this offseason he is damaged goodsWhat I am saying is this it what it is. These guys are going to be here awhile.
Lang just wanted a paycheck in his hometown. He stinks.I predict they cut tj lang this offseason he is damaged goods
Why? Hes slow...small....goes down on first contact....and oh yeah....he fumbles.....alot.....terrible football playerThe 49ers should sign him asap.
agree with all you posted. I don't dislike the guy, but strangely lacks the next level.I think 50% of the venom Stafford receives is based solely on the money he's made. He was the last of the un-capped rookie QBs to land the larger than life (haven't earned it yet contracts) and re-upped to become the highest paid player in the league at one point (market dictated). The expectations that go with that are larger than his abilities. He really was and has been in a no win situation. You take away the monster contracts and he's an above average QB that is sadly the best QB the franchise has had in the last 40 years.
Having said that, I'm not defending him. There are some intangibles to the game that Matt seems to lack. It's hard to put a finger on but I believe it has to do with in game management/intelligence and leadership. Does he do enough in the film room? Not sure. Everyone knows he's got a legendary arm that can make all the throws (So Could Jeff George though....) however I think he has never taken the next steps in QB development for some reason.
I would say you are psychic but those that watch the lions already know things in advance.I will be gone all day so I updated the title early so save me the trouble later.