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19 hours ago, Leroy Hoard said:

And these guys say their schedule is only 19th hardest.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/gallery/nfl-strength-of-schedule-every-teams-2019-schedule-ranked

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Not successfully you couldn’t 

I believe this is the first win the Lions have ever had in January.

I’m usually not one to get caught up in “celebrity” lives, but as a parent my ♥️ goes out to Matthew & Kelly. Her six hour brain surgery morphed into a twelve hour procedure, but she’s walking and

This is interesting 

https://twitter.com/dpshow/status/1120409436961394689?s=21

Louis Reddick explains why he thinks Devin Bush is the best player in the draft. Part of his breakdown is how desperate teams are for great athletes in the middle at S and LBto stop RBs and TEs. It got me thinking about how good Derwin James was last year. I then realized Bush is 20 pounds heavier with a faster 40 and better agility than Derwin (lacks the length) but he could have a huge impact right away in Detroit with all the big bodies they have on the DL to eat up blockers.

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On 4/22/2019 at 8:50 PM, Ilov80s said:

This is interesting 

https://twitter.com/dpshow/status/1120409436961394689?s=21

Louis Reddick explains why he thinks Devin Bush is the best player in the draft. Part of his breakdown is how desperate teams are for great athletes in the middle at S and LBto stop RBs and TEs. It got me thinking about how good Derwin James was last year. I then realized Bush is 20 pounds heavier with a faster 40 and better agility than Derwin (lacks the length) but he could have a huge impact right away in Detroit with all the big bodies they have on the DL to eat up blockers.

I wouldn’t mind drafting Devin in a trade down situation. I’m hoping someone feels the need to move up a few spots for a QB. An extra day 2 pick would be great. 

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1 hour ago, ffweasel said:

I wouldn’t mind drafting Devin in a trade down situation. I’m hoping someone feels the need to move up a few spots for a QB. An extra day 2 pick would be great. 

Not that these draft people are always right but we might not get him in a trade back. I've heard/seen lots of speculation Devin White goes 5 and Bush goes 8-10. That gives little room for error. 

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It wouldn't be the first time the Lions have taken a LB at #8. The last time the Lions picked at #8 was back in 1974 where they chose a LB named Ed O'Neil. He didn't work out well for the Lions but at least he scored 4 TD's in his high school's city championship game!

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On 4/19/2019 at 11:33 PM, Ilov80s said:

I thought about it and if the Lions take a DT or DE at 8, do the Lions have the best DL in the NFL?

They'd be right up at the top of the league if they took a DE. They had Ansah and nobody last year at DE last year with Ansah being a dud too. Flowers replaces the loss of Ansah fine but they really need another DE to complete the DL. Hand can stretch out to DE as needed but I think they'd be better off with a true DE in that spot and have good versatility on the DL with Hand behind Snacks and ARob while flexing to DE as needed. 

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On 12/10/2018 at 7:46 PM, matuski said:

Josh Allen.

Dude is stupid good, jumps off the screen.

However, I have PED concerns.. he gained something along the lines of 40 pounds this off season.. from appearances has a -% body fat.  :lmao:

:kicksrock:

Maybe 2-3 teams trade up for QB?

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Stafford has been working with the team this week even after they told him to take as much time as he needed following his wife's brain surgery. Hopefully all the haters who say Stafford doesn't care will shut up now. 

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42 minutes ago, Foosball God said:

I kind of wish the Lions were more involved in Josh Rosen rumors honestly.

Why would we trade our first round pick for a QB who may or may not be any good?

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1 hour ago, Foosball God said:

I wouldn't trade a high first round for Rosen, but I wouldn't be too upset about our 2nd round.  I would hope they would kick the tires a bit.

I would throw up 

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51 minutes ago, bicycle_seat_sniffer said:

Staffords wife back in the hospital......ugh.......

At least it sounds like it’s not a complication with the operation but to help her taper off of the steroids she was prescribed. 

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1 hour ago, Foosball God said:

I wouldn't trade a high first round for Rosen, but I wouldn't be too upset about our 2nd round.  I would hope they would kick the tires a bit.

I don't see any reason to enter the Rosen sweepstakes. He may or may not pan out but the Lions are tied to Stafford for at least 2 more years for huge money. Stafford will be the starter in 2019 and 2020. Best case scenario is Rosen or a highly drafted QB gets to take over in the latter part of 2020. Rosen would then start in 2021 on his 4th year in the league. Not that that's a horrible thing but in the salary cap era your best title window is when that QB is paid cheaply on his rookie contract. By the time the Lions would know if Rosen was any good or not it'd be time to pay up big for a new contract. Pass on Rosen or any 1st round QB this year. It would make more sense to go that route next year and have a rookie be groomed to take over in his 2nd year in 2021. Or better yet to grab one in 2021 to play right away assuming the Lions move on from Stafford.

 

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Stafford is not the problem but he may not be the solution either. The team should ride him the next two years and continue to build around him. The goal being to have few major holes when the time comes to retain him or turn the reigns over to another signal caller. Focus on building the defense and running game so if they draft someone it isn’t a dumpster fire for a young QB to walk into....or even better yet Stafford plays better and we start winning games.

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11 hours ago, King of the Jungle said:

Stafford is not the problem but he may not be the solution either. The team should ride him the next two years and continue to build around him. The goal being to have few major holes when the time comes to retain him or turn the reigns over to another signal caller. Focus on building the defense and running game so if they draft someone it isn’t a dumpster fire for a young QB to walk into....or even better yet Stafford plays better and we start winning games.

Stafford struggled last year but he has been good for most his career. Not a top 10 QB but consistently top 15.

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One of the latest rotoworld podcasts the host says ‘ a little  birdy told me ‘ that it won’t take much at all for the Lions to trade down maybe a 3rd + 5/6th and if a player that they really like doesn’t fall that’s what they will be looking to do. 

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7 minutes ago, TartanLion said:

One of the latest rotoworld podcasts the host says ‘ a little  birdy told me ‘ that it won’t take much at all for the Lions to trade down maybe a 3rd + 5/6th and if a player that they really like doesn’t fall that’s what they will be looking to do. 

I think that birdy was the GM. He openly said in an interview that they wanted to trade down and were open for business. When a GM says that publically, it's pretty much begging for any kind of offer. 

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23 minutes ago, Ilov80s said:

I think that birdy was the GM. He openly said in an interview that they wanted to trade down and were open for business. When a GM says that publically, it's pretty much begging for any kind of offer. 

Perhaps although he was asked if he could name the source and he said he couldn’t. Felt more like a private conversation type of thing. Doesn’t really lend any extra credence to it but that’s what he insinuated.

 

still think there’s a small chance Allen could fall to us if two QBs and an Oline player goes. 

Murray 

Bosa

Williams 

Lock/Haskins 

White to Buccs is a rumour 

Oline player 

 

makes 6 players. Throw in another QB if that happened and all of a sudden Allen and Oliver could be on the board although I think if it’s Oliver then someone might trade up with us. 

 

If someone absolutely loves Marquise Brown then that could also massively help 

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6 minutes ago, TartanLion said:

Perhaps although he was asked if he could name the source and he said he couldn’t. Felt more like a private conversation type of thing. Doesn’t really lend any extra credence to it but that’s what he insinuated 

Fair, it just seems like the Lions are very open about putting that out

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29 minutes ago, TartanLion said:

One of the latest rotoworld podcasts the host says ‘ a little  birdy told me ‘ that it won’t take much at all for the Lions to trade down maybe a 3rd + 5/6th and if a player that they really like doesn’t fall that’s what they will be looking to do. 

I wouldn't mind dropping down as far as Atlanta for that price mostly because I'm rooting for a DE pick. That extra 3rd+ would be nice ammo to move up from #43 if someone slips to the end of the 1st or early 2nd. 

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I’m hoping Haskins slides or there are a couple teams high on lock. There could be teams trying to jump ahead of the broncos(10) and bengals (11). Mia (13) was (15) nyg (17) could work. Also, Oakland 24/27 picks add up to about pick 8, and I’d love that if we were able to swing it. 

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17 hours ago, bicycle_seat_sniffer said:

Staffords wife back in the hospital......ugh.......

Just for pain.  It is actually a good sign that she is choosing to get off pain meds asap.

eta - a good sign as long as that is really why she went to ER.

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Definite talk Atlanta wants in the top 10-likely for Oliver. Come on Lions!  The 2nd round is really juicy. If the Lions can get another 2nd rounder, it would be huge.

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2 minutes ago, Ilov80s said:

Definite talk Atlanta wants in the top 10-likely for Oliver. Come on Lions!  The 2nd round is really juicy. If the Lions can get another 2nd rounder, it would be huge.

I’d love it if they trade back....I’d love it more if they trade back twice. I’m happy picking in the 20s with some extra 2/3 picks. 

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15 minutes ago, Ilov80s said:

Definite talk Atlanta wants in the top 10-likely for Oliver. Come on Lions!  The 2nd round is really juicy. If the Lions can get another 2nd rounder, it would be huge.

I agree, but with our history ofn2nd round picks... slay and kerryon have been great, but man we have a decade of stinkers. 

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12 minutes ago, Snorkelson said:

I agree, but with our history ofn2nd round picks... slay and kerryon have been great, but man we have a decade of stinkers. 

True but you cant let history keep you from things. The howlings when they drafted Megatron for example.

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4 minutes ago, Leroy Hoard said:

True but you cant let history keep you from things. The howlings when they drafted Megatron for example.

One of my favorite WRs ever, but Thomas should have been the pick imo.

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44 minutes ago, Leroy Hoard said:

True but you cant let history keep you from things. The howlings when they drafted Megatron for example.

Agree, and if they end up drafting Hockenson I’ll shrug and accept it even though pettigrew and ebron didn’t really work out. Hockenson seems like a pretty safe pick this year, if nothing else. 

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3 hours ago, TartanLion said:

If someone absolutely loves Marquise Brown then that could also massively help 

If there's any receiver named Brown drafted that high, it certainly won't be Marquise.

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12 minutes ago, Ilov80s said:

I am sure the Lions thought process was:

- we need help blocking

- we need a TE

- we need a slot pass catcher

Hock can do all 3

 

This. The fact that he can help the running game and passing game simultaneously is what drove this pick. If a tight end projected to be the best pass catching TE of all time was available, and he couldn't block, I don't think Quinn would have taken him. The offensive philosophy is to run and complete short passes, with one or two deep shots per game.

Fine, makes sense, but I want an elite defense damnit. Lions keep going halfway on both fronts and deliver mediocre results year after year.

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