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2024 Detroit Lions: Getting ready for the draft in Motown. (19 Viewers)
- Thread starter Da Guru
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Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
offensive line is by far strength of roster:
LT Taylor Decker
LG Jonah Jackson
C Frank Ragnow
RG Halapoulivaati Vaitai
RT Penei Sewell
Swing: Tyrell Crosby
The foundation of their rebuild.
I haven’t felt this good about a first round pick since 2010 (Suh.)
LT Taylor Decker
LG Jonah Jackson
C Frank Ragnow
RG Halapoulivaati Vaitai
RT Penei Sewell
Swing: Tyrell Crosby
The foundation of their rebuild.
I haven’t felt this good about a first round pick since 2010 (Suh.)
The Captain
Footballguy
This is a good start. Maybe best oline in football. Last time that happened was 1991.
This is really good for Swift
This is really good for Swift
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
LOL..no I am home. I like the pick though.
Also..I look more like an old NFL safety.
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BobbyLayne
Footballguy
how did it take us three years to get rid of the jerk?
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Apple Juice
Footballguy
As usual the Lions didnt get much media focus but I saw the war room going nuts. I knew it was Sewell when I saw that. I dont think they thought he would be there. I wonder if they made that inquiry about Chase to make it seem like he was coveted and tilt Cincy in that direction.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
I imagine all the teams are lying to each other for weeks before the draft. I don’t think the 49ers ever had any intention of taking Jones.
ILoveMyLions
Footballguy
Finally, a great pick...
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I am so happy with this choice. This guy is the Jamarr Chase of OTs. Won the Outland Trophy at 19, was starting for Oregon at 17. The convergence of size, athleticism, football smarts and attitude is ideal. The Lions should be able to do some pretty fun things with the OL now that they have Ragnow and Sewell. Screen game to Swift and Hock should be a staple of the offense. I would love to see them add a WR that they can use in the slot to generate big plays. There were 4 truly special prospects in this draft. Lawrence, Penei, Pitts and Chase. Detroit got 1 at 7. Can't complain about that.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Next pick I basically have 3 guys I am looking at.
WR Elijah Moore: we are in terrible shape at WR so getting a reliable slot option for Goff would be huge. He loved Kupp in LA so getting an even more explosive slot option would be great.
S Trevon Moehrig: didn't test so can't say much about his athleticism but he's got plus length and is a ball hawk with 6 picks in his last 22 games. He can be the kind of player who truly makes a difference on the back end of a defense.
DT Christian Barmore: big DT who seems like just a 2 down run stopper but he also had 8 sacks last year. He has good athletic measurables so maybe he is more than just a standard 2 down middle stuffer, looks like he create interior pressure in his highlights.
WR Elijah Moore: we are in terrible shape at WR so getting a reliable slot option for Goff would be huge. He loved Kupp in LA so getting an even more explosive slot option would be great.
S Trevon Moehrig: didn't test so can't say much about his athleticism but he's got plus length and is a ball hawk with 6 picks in his last 22 games. He can be the kind of player who truly makes a difference on the back end of a defense.
DT Christian Barmore: big DT who seems like just a 2 down run stopper but he also had 8 sacks last year. He has good athletic measurables so maybe he is more than just a standard 2 down middle stuffer, looks like he create interior pressure in his highlights.
According to Detroit Free Press...
Grade: D
Why: Remember grades are for the pick, not the player. Sewell is a fine player won the Outland Trophy in 2019. But there’s a reason Cincinnati, which has a worse offensive line that gave up more sacks last year than the Lions, passed on him. The top 10 should be reserved for elite playmakers. The Lions get a D because they either should have traded down or selected Alabama receiver DeVonta Smith or Ohio State quarterback Justin Fields.
Grade: D
Why: Remember grades are for the pick, not the player. Sewell is a fine player won the Outland Trophy in 2019. But there’s a reason Cincinnati, which has a worse offensive line that gave up more sacks last year than the Lions, passed on him. The top 10 should be reserved for elite playmakers. The Lions get a D because they either should have traded down or selected Alabama receiver DeVonta Smith or Ohio State quarterback Justin Fields.
Deamon
Footballguy
I'm going to guess this was written by Carlos Monarrez. The guy is a joke, a walking hot take who tries and fails miserably to be the next Drew Sharp.
The reason to regret Fields was the Bears ended up with him. The idea that giving your QB more time, preventing sacks, and making gaping holes for Swift to break big runs for, is not play-making is bizarre. Sewell was a no-brainer pick for the Lions as he has HOF potential.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Fixed that for ya, Jon.
He’s a tool, everyone here familiar with the Lions beat writers knows that. 21 years of churning out negative garage.
Typo in the 2nd sentence, poor critical thinking, lack of subject knowledge. That was a D article; do better Carlos.
(for non-Detroiters - this is the ##### who was told by the biggest d-bag ever to show some respect for the process & sit up straight. every single article he writes is a “hot take.” his sole purpose is to generate clicks & I’ve yet to hear him offer up an original thought.)
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
just watch the first 60 seconds
This was the attempted Freep zoom after the Stafford trade. Carlos hadn't joined yet and listen to what his own colleagues had to say about his absence.
Synthesizer
Footballguy
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Anyway, this WR class is so deep I'm cool with them addressing LB or S at #41. Lot of good players at both positions who won't be there #72. Defense with both picks tonight would not be the worst strategy.
They could potentially take a Dyami Brown/Nico Collins at #101 and double down with a Tutu Atwell at #112 or get lucky af and find Jaelon Darden at #153 (he's ranked in the 130s so unlikely but you never know.)
I really don't care if we don't spend draft capital on WR today bc they need foundational pieces. Four (or more) picks to go, but man they are slaying this offseason rn.
Oh, and the guy looking for a friend has been identified as John Dorsey. One of many quality hires SFH & Co have brought in over the last few months.
They could potentially take a Dyami Brown/Nico Collins at #101 and double down with a Tutu Atwell at #112 or get lucky af and find Jaelon Darden at #153 (he's ranked in the 130s so unlikely but you never know.)
I really don't care if we don't spend draft capital on WR today bc they need foundational pieces. Four (or more) picks to go, but man they are slaying this offseason rn.
Oh, and the guy looking for a friend has been identified as John Dorsey. One of many quality hires SFH & Co have brought in over the last few months.
MAC_32
Footballguy
2021 needs don't matter, especially on this roster. This draft is about building the starting point for the future core. If there's a player available this team sees in that mold then regardless of position they're the guy.
formerfourdigit
Footballguy
Who are we targeting at #41? Elijah Moore? Ojulari? Is there a DB anyone likes there?
Foosball God
Foos
Mt. Man
Footballguy
There are a lot of good possibilities. LB (J O-K or Bolton), D-Line (Barmore, Ojualari, maybe Onwuzurike), WR (Moore, Marshall Jr.), Moehrig (S). For CB we're into a lower tier, but there are a lot of eyes on where Asanti Samuel Jr. ends up.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
In any other non QB heavy draft Sewell would have been a top 3 pick.
I would not have been unhappy with Fields though.
Foosball God
Foos
I would have been disappointed if it had been Fields personally.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Really like Moehrig the S from TCU. He is long and a total ballhawk plus he has good coverage skills.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I think he means the grade isn't reflective of Sewell but what the Lions could done with the pick. He wanted Fields or a trade back. So he isn't saying Sewell is bad but just not the right choice for Detroit.Any idea what this means?
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
#41
- DT - Christian Barmore (Alabama) will be one of the first picks off the Day Two board, not an option. Levi Onwuzurike (Was) is right in their wheelhouse, but if they defer there are plenty of options at #72
- EDGE - Ojulari (Georgia) and Ossai (Texas) are likely gone in the first 8. Not really the top priority IMO.
- LB - JOK seems like the only LB who will go 33-40. Browning (OSU) or Cox (LSU) are impactful.
- CB - Ifeatu Melifonwu (Syracuse) or Kelvin Joseph (Kentucky) are great picks here. Nope from me on Samuel, I think his size will limit him at the next level.
- S - Trevon Moehrig (TCU) is likely not an option but he's the best one out there. Richie Grant (UCF) is my realistic choice here.
- WR - Terrance Marshall (LSU) or one of the Moore's (Ole MIss & Purdue) seem like the chalk pick if they go that way. I'd prefer we wait.
- DT - wow there should be a ton of good lane cloggers here: Alim McNeill (NC State) is a squat wide body, Daviyon Nixon (Iowa) is an athletic gap shooter, Jay Tufele (USC) is very quick & disruptive, Milton Williams (La Tech) is a smooth athletic type with upside. They might all be gone by the early 3rd but at least one might be there.
- EDGE - I'm cool with Flowers/Okwara for now but If Basham (Wake Forrest) or Perkins (Oklahoma) make it to #72 they should be considered.
- LB - Werner (OSU) or Bolton (Missouri) or Moses (Alabama). Would be nice to get a run n chase LB, tired of thumpers who get lost in coverage, but the smaller faster guys are going quick in this draft.
- CB - Elijah Molden (Washington) is a S who might be a good nickel corner or Tyson Campbell (Georgia) - whom many had over Stokes - is another strong possibilities at #72.
- S - Hamsah Nasirildeen (FSU) or Jevon Holland (Oregon). Or wait to take Jamar Johnson (Indiana) at #101?
- WR - Dyami Brown (North Carolina), Amon Ra-St Brown USC), Amari Rodgers (Clemson), Nico Collins (Michigan), D'Wayne Eskridge (Western Mich) are all good candidates here.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Wise Old Owl
Footballguy
Moonlight
Footballguy
Nice list and takes into account the Lions picking ninth instead of 7th in round 2.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
some Day 2/3 mock results I ran at the PFN mock simulator:
- 41. Ifeatu Melifonwu CB Syracuse
72. Amon-Ra St. Brown WR USC
101. Ar'Darius Washington S Washington
112. Tyler Shelvin DT LSU
153. Cade Johnson WR South Dakota State
- 41. Levi Onwuzurike DT Washington
72. Nick Bolton LB Missouri
101. Trill Williams CB Syracuse
112. Tutu Atwell WR Louisville
153. Austin Watkins WR UAB
- 41. Trevon Moehrig S TCU
72. Dyami Brown WR North Carolina
101. Chazz Surratt LB North Carolina
112. Marquez Stevenson WR Houston
153. Jonathan Marshall DT Arkansas
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Nice. I also think Barrmore would a good pick but it makes me a little hesitant when I read some questions about his motor and work ethic. As for Azeez, seems like the reports that he has a degenerative lower leg condition may be real and I don't like that. Elijah Moore is very much in play. Other than the Jets, the teams picking in front of Detroit aren't likely to take a WR.
Balco
Footballguy
That’s the same questions I have - as packers need a D Lineman badly and Barmore is extremely talented. Sounds like he didn’t take well to coaching and wasn’t very good with assignments. Mistakes can be hidden when you play on a team with a ton of talent like Alabama but you don’t maintain your responsibilities in the NFL and you won’t last long.
I'd bet a lot of money if you went back through his evaluations over the last few years, you'd find him #####ing that the wasted a pick on a skill position guy instead of building the team through the lines, like the good teams do.
I doubt that they were ever serious about moving up. If anything, they might have been trying to figure out what Cinci was looking for in order to move back a few slots, in case they wound up negotiating with a team in the 9-12 range.
Apple Juice
Footballguy
This is what I truly believe, and I don't normally believe wild conjecture. There's nothing groundbreaking about it, just put the thought in the other owners' heads that you want the guy who you actually want them to take. Whether that had anything to do with how it played out, the important thing is every thing we needed to have happen happened.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
WR?
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Levi's coming.
