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Have huge hopes for today probably much more than I should have. Looking for Lions to build from the Stafford trade and demonstrate that they can be a competent organization able to make smart moves and good draft choices.

Hoping for a trade down that provides multiple high draft picks and the opportunity to further maneuver

Fans deserve so much more than what we have gotten.

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I believe this is the first win the Lions have ever had in January.

I’m usually not one to get caught up in “celebrity” lives, but as a parent my ♥️ goes out to Matthew & Kelly. Her six hour brain surgery morphed into a twelve hour procedure, but she’s walking and

7 hours ago, Da Guru said:

I refuse to listen to Mike Valenti anymore.  The show is horrible now.

Now?

He's always had a terrible show. He's the Skip Bayless of Detroit. 

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From twitter - Dan Campbell said some of the technology in the Lions' draft room was "from the stone age," and Brad Holmes has overhauled everything.

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I don't think anyone could have seen that coming.

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7 minutes ago, whoknew said:

From twitter - Dan Campbell said some of the technology in the Lions' draft room was "from the stone age," and Brad Holmes has overhauled everything.

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I don't think anyone could have seen that coming.

Bob Quinn is going to miss his favorite fax machine.

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1 minute ago, Leroy Hoard said:

Bob Quinn is going to miss his favorite fax machine.

I guess Millen has to go down as the worst GM, but Quinn certainly gives him a run.

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This has been the smartest off season in decades.  They may actually be a mediocre team in a couple of years.  And with the packers screwing things up with Rogers, who knows.  That could mean contending for the division. 

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On 4/26/2021 at 10:08 PM, Apple Juice said:

For the first time in years I'm going to be on the edge of my seat during the top ten. If Sewell makes it past Cincy I'll be excited and scared at the same time.

A Penei for your thought.

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offensive line is by far strength of roster:

LT Taylor Decker
LG Jonah Jackson  
C Frank Ragnow  
RG Halapoulivaati Vaitai   
RT Penei Sewell  
Swing: Tyrell Crosby

The foundation of their rebuild.

I haven’t felt this good about a first round pick since 2010 (Suh.)

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how did it take us three years to get rid of the jerk?

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The Lions set up a cornhole game in the hallway outside the war room to help alleviate stress. The game was actually purchased by team president Rod Wood, which is a sharp departure from the previous regime, when Matt Patricia ordered the players’ cornhole set to be removed from the facility.

“Dan has been talking about his cornhole skills from Day 1,” Holmes said.[/quote]

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1 minute ago, Apple Juice said:

As usual the Lions didnt get much media focus but I saw the war room going nuts. I knew it was Sewell when I saw that. I dont think they thought he would be there. I wonder if they made that inquiry about Chase to make it seem like he was coveted and tilt Cincy in that direction. 

I imagine all the teams are lying to each other for weeks before the draft. I don’t think the 49ers ever had any intention of taking Jones.

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I am so happy with this choice. This guy is the Jamarr Chase of OTs. Won the Outland Trophy at 19, was starting for Oregon at 17. The convergence of size, athleticism, football smarts and attitude is ideal. The Lions should be able to do some pretty fun things with the OL now that they have Ragnow and Sewell. Screen game to Swift and Hock should be a staple of the offense. I would love to see them add a WR that they can use in the slot to generate big plays. There were 4 truly special prospects in this draft. Lawrence, Penei, Pitts and Chase. Detroit got 1 at 7. Can't complain about that. 

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Next pick I basically have 3 guys I am looking at. 

WR Elijah Moore: we are in terrible shape at WR so getting a reliable slot option for Goff would be huge. He loved Kupp in LA so getting an even more explosive slot option would be great. 

S Trevon Moehrig: didn't test so can't say much about his athleticism but he's got plus length and is a ball hawk with 6 picks in his last 22 games. He can be the kind of player who truly makes a difference on the back end of a defense. 

DT Christian Barmore: big DT who seems like just a 2 down run stopper but he also had 8 sacks last year. He has good athletic measurables so maybe he is more than just a standard 2 down middle stuffer, looks like he create interior pressure in his highlights.

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According to Detroit Free Press...

Grade: D

Why: Remember grades are for the pick, not the player. Sewell is a fine player won the Outland Trophy in 2019. But there’s a reason Cincinnati, which has a worse offensive line that gave up more sacks last year than the Lions, passed on him. The top 10 should be reserved for elite playmakers. The Lions get a D because they either should have traded down or selected Alabama receiver DeVonta Smith or Ohio State quarterback Justin Fields.

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47 minutes ago, jon_mx said:

According to Detroit Free Press...

Grade: D

Why: Remember grades are for the pick, not the player. Sewell is a fine player won the Outland Trophy in 2019. But there’s a reason Cincinnati, which has a worse offensive line that gave up more sacks last year than the Lions, passed on him. The top 10 should be reserved for elite playmakers. The Lions get a D because they either should have traded down or selected Alabama receiver DeVonta Smith or Ohio State quarterback Justin Fields.

Hmmmm.... weird take.

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3 hours ago, jon_mx said:

According to Detroit Free Press...

Grade: D

Why: Remember grades are for the pick, not the player. Sewell is a fine player won the Outland Trophy in 2019. But there’s a reason Cincinnati, which has a worse offensive line that gave up more sacks last year than the Lions, passed on him. The top 10 should be reserved for elite playmakers. The Lions get a D because they either should have traded down or selected Alabama receiver DeVonta Smith or Ohio State quarterback Justin Fields.

I'm going to guess this was written by Carlos Monarrez.  The guy is a joke, a walking hot take who tries and fails miserably to be the next Drew Sharp.

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No wonder the front office and coaches were so fired up in the draft room. What a pick - can’t believe Sewell slid that far. Great way to start the roster build.

Build from the inside out - best strategy when building a roster. Interested to see next pick.

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4 hours ago, jon_mx said:

According to Detroit Free Press...

Grade: D

Why: Remember grades are for the pick, not the player. Sewell is a fine player won the Outland Trophy in 2019. But there’s a reason Cincinnati, which has a worse offensive line that gave up more sacks last year than the Lions, passed on him. The top 10 should be reserved for elite playmakers. The Lions get a D because they either should have traded down or selected Alabama receiver DeVonta Smith or Ohio State quarterback Justin Fields.

No thanks. I'll take the monster OT over a 165 lb WR everyday. Fields I could see.

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36 minutes ago, Payne said:

No thanks. I'll take the monster OT over a 165 lb WR everyday. Fields I could see.

The reason to regret Fields was the Bears ended up with him.  The idea that giving your QB more time, preventing sacks, and making gaping holes for Swift to break big runs for, is not play-making is bizarre.  Sewell was a no-brainer pick for the Lions as he has HOF potential.  

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5 hours ago, jon_mx said:

According to Detroit Free Press...

Grade: D

Why: Remember grades are for the pick, not the player. Sewell is a fine player won the Outland Trophy in 2019. But there’s a reason Cincinnati, which has a worse offensive line that gave up more sacks last year than the Lions, passed on him. The top 10 should be reserved for elite playmakers. The Lions get a D because they either should have traded down or selected Alabama receiver DeVonta Smith or Ohio State quarterback Justin Fields.

Seems...dumb. 

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5 hours ago, jon_mx said:

According to Carlos Monarrez...

Grade: D

Why: Remember grades are for the pick, not the player. Sewell is a fine player won the Outland Trophy in 2019. But there’s a reason Cincinnati, which has a worse offensive line that gave up more sacks last year than the Lions, passed on him. The top 10 should be reserved for elite playmakers. The Lions get a D because they either should have traded down or selected Alabama receiver DeVonta Smith or Ohio State quarterback Justin Fields.

Fixed that for ya, Jon.

He’s a tool, everyone here familiar with the Lions beat writers knows that. 21 years of churning out negative garage.

Typo in the 2nd sentence, poor critical thinking, lack of subject knowledge. That was a D article; do better Carlos.

(for non-Detroiters - this is the ##### who was told by the biggest d-bag ever to show some respect for the process & sit up straight. every single article he writes is a “hot take.” his sole purpose is to generate clicks & I’ve yet to hear him offer up an original thought.)

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I think in this stage of rebuild Lions need to stay with BPA - they have so many holes reaching for need would be foolish. 
 

Lots of impact players available for their next pick.

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13 minutes ago, BobbyLayne said:

Fixed that for ya, Jon.

He’s a tool, everyone here familiar with the Lions beat writers knows that. 21 years of churning out negative garage.

Typo in the 2nd sentence, poor critical thinking, lack of subject knowledge. That was a D article; do better Carlos.

(for non-Detroiters - this is the ##### who was told by the biggest d-bag ever to show some respect for the process & sit up straight. every single article he writes is a “hot take.” his sole purpose is to generate clicks & I’ve yet to hear him offer up an original thought.)

just watch the first 60 seconds

This was the attempted Freep zoom after the Stafford trade. Carlos hadn't joined yet and listen to what his own colleagues had to say about his absence.

:lmao:

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5 hours ago, jon_mx said:

According to Detroit Free Press...

Grade: D

Why: Remember grades are for the pick, not the player. Sewell is a fine player won the Outland Trophy in 2019. 

  :confused:   Any idea what this means?

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Anyway, this WR class is so deep I'm cool with them addressing LB or S at #41. Lot of good players at both positions who won't be there #72. Defense with both picks tonight would not be the worst strategy.

They could potentially take a Dyami Brown/Nico Collins at #101 and double down with a Tutu Atwell at #112 or get lucky af and find Jaelon Darden at #153 (he's ranked in the 130s so unlikely but you never know.)

I really don't care if we don't spend draft capital on WR today bc they need foundational pieces. Four (or more) picks to go, but man they are slaying this offseason rn.

Oh, and the guy looking for a friend has been identified as John Dorsey. One of many quality hires SFH & Co have brought in over the last few months.

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12 minutes ago, Balco said:

I think in this stage of rebuild Lions need to stay with BPA - they have so many holes reaching for need would be foolish. 
 

Lots of impact players available for their next pick.

:goodposting:

2021 needs don't matter, especially on this roster. This draft is about building the starting point for the future core. If there's a player available this team sees in that mold then regardless of position they're the guy.

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6 hours ago, jon_mx said:

According to Detroit Free Press...

Grade: D

Why: Remember grades are for the pick, not the player. Sewell is a fine player won the Outland Trophy in 2019. But there’s a reason Cincinnati, which has a worse offensive line that gave up more sacks last year than the Lions, passed on him. The top 10 should be reserved for elite playmakers. The Lions get a D because they either should have traded down or selected Alabama receiver DeVonta Smith or Ohio State quarterback Justin Fields.

There is some truth here, I mean Cincinnati is a model fran...  Wait what?

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12 minutes ago, formerfourdigit said:

Who are we targeting at #41?  Elijah Moore?  Ojulari?  Is there a DB anyone likes there?

There are a lot of good possibilities. LB (J O-K or Bolton), D-Line (Barmore, Ojualari, maybe Onwuzurike), WR (Moore, Marshall Jr.), Moehrig (S). For CB we're into a lower tier, but there are a lot of eyes on where Asanti Samuel Jr. ends up.

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2 hours ago, Balco said:

No wonder the front office and coaches were so fired up in the draft room. What a pick - can’t believe Sewell slid that far. Great way to start the roster build.

Build from the inside out - best strategy when building a roster. Interested to see next pick.

In any other non QB heavy draft Sewell would have been a top 3 pick.

I would not have been unhappy with Fields though.

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57 minutes ago, formerfourdigit said:

Who are we targeting at #41?  Elijah Moore?  Ojulari?  Is there a DB anyone likes there?

Really like Moehrig the S from TCU. He is long and a total ballhawk plus he has good coverage skills. 

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1 hour ago, Synthesizer said:

  :confused:   Any idea what this means?

I think he means the grade isn't reflective of Sewell but what the Lions could done with the pick. He wanted Fields or a trade back. So he isn't saying Sewell is bad but just not the right choice for Detroit. 

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#41

  • DT - Christian Barmore (Alabama) will be one of the first picks off the Day Two board, not an option. Levi Onwuzurike (Was) is right in their wheelhouse, but if they defer there are plenty of options at #72
  • EDGE - Ojulari (Georgia) and Ossai (Texas) are likely gone in the first 8. Not really the top priority IMO.
  • LB - JOK seems like the only LB who will go 33-40. Browning (OSU) or Cox (LSU) are impactful.
  • CB - Ifeatu Melifonwu (Syracuse) or Kelvin Joseph (Kentucky) are great picks here. Nope from me on Samuel, I think his size will limit him at the next level.
  • S - Trevon Moehrig (TCU) is likely not an option but he's the best one out there. Richie Grant (UCF) is my realistic choice here.
  • WR - Terrance Marshall (LSU) or one of the Moore's (Ole MIss & Purdue) seem like the chalk pick if they go that way. I'd prefer we wait.

#72

  • DT - wow there should be a ton of good lane cloggers here: Alim McNeill (NC State) is a squat wide body, Daviyon Nixon (Iowa) is an athletic gap shooter, Jay Tufele (USC) is very  quick & disruptive, Milton Williams (La Tech) is a smooth athletic type with upside. They might all be gone by the early 3rd but at least one might be there.
  • EDGE - I'm cool with Flowers/Okwara for now but If Basham (Wake Forrest) or Perkins (Oklahoma) make it to #72 they should be considered.
  • LB - Werner (OSU) or Bolton (Missouri) or Moses (Alabama). Would be nice to get a run n chase LB, tired of thumpers who get lost in coverage, but the smaller faster guys are going quick in this draft.
  • CB - Elijah Molden (Washington) is a S who might be a good nickel corner or Tyson Campbell (Georgia) - whom many had over Stokes - is another strong possibilities at #72.
  • S - Hamsah Nasirildeen (FSU) or Jevon Holland (Oregon). Or wait to take Jamar Johnson (Indiana) at #101?
  • WR - Dyami Brown (North Carolina), Amon Ra-St Brown USC), Amari Rodgers (Clemson), Nico Collins (Michigan), D'Wayne Eskridge (Western Mich) are all good candidates here.
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2 hours ago, IHEARTFF said:

Congrats Lions fans. Great pick. If you get like Elijah Moore or Terrace Marshall here in round 2, that’d be a huge boost to the offense. 

Yep. Lions got a steal at 7 in my book.

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8 hours ago, jon_mx said:

According to Detroit Free Press...

Grade: D

Why: Remember grades are for the pick, not the player. Sewell is a fine player won the Outland Trophy in 2019. But there’s a reason Cincinnati, which has a worse offensive line that gave up more sacks last year than the Lions, passed on him. The top 10 should be reserved for elite playmakers. The Lions get a D because they either should have traded down or selected Alabama receiver DeVonta Smith or Ohio State quarterback Justin Fields.

I think this is easily the worst take I've seen anywhere. 

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2 hours ago, BobbyLayne said:

#41

  • DT - Christian Barmore (Alabama) will be one of the first picks off the Day Two board, not an option. Levi Onwuzurike (Was) is right in their wheelhouse, but if they defer there are plenty of options at #72
  • EDGE - Ojulari (Georgia) and Ossai (Texas) are likely gone in the first 8. Not really the top priority IMO.
  • LB - JOK seems like the only LB who will go 33-40. Browning (OSU) or Cox (LSU) are impactful.
  • CB - Ifeatu Melifonwu (Syracuse) or Kelvin Joseph (Kentucky) are great picks here. Nope from me on Samuel, I think his size will limit him at the next level.
  • S - Trevon Moehrig (TCU) is likely not an option but he's the best one out there. Richie Grant (UCF) is my realistic choice here.
  • WR - Terrance Marshall (LSU) or one of the Moore's (Ole MIss & Purdue) seem like the chalk pick if they go that way. I'd prefer we wait.

#72

  • DT - wow there should be a ton of good lane cloggers here: Alim McNeill (NC State) is a squat wide body, Daviyon Nixon (Iowa) is an athletic gap shooter, Jay Tufele (USC) is very  quick & disruptive, Milton Williams (La Tech) is a smooth athletic type with upside. They might all be gone by the early 3rd but at least one might be there.
  • EDGE - I'm cool with Flowers/Okwara for now but If Basham (Wake Forrest) or Perkins (Oklahoma) make it to #72 they should be considered.
  • LB - Werner (OSU) or Bolton (Missouri) or Moses (Alabama). Would be nice to get a run n chase LB, tired of thumpers who get lost in coverage, but the smaller faster guys are going quick in this draft.
  • CB - Elijah Molden (Washington) is a S who might be a good nickel corner or Tyson Campbell (Georgia) - whom many had over Stokes - is another strong possibilities at #72.
  • S - Hamsah Nasirildeen (FSU) or Jevon Holland (Oregon). Or wait to take Jamar Johnson (Indiana) at #101?
  • WR - Dyami Brown (North Carolina), Amon Ra-St Brown USC), Amari Rodgers (Clemson), Nico Collins (Michigan), D'Wayne Eskridge (Western Mich) are all good candidates here.

Nice list and takes into account the Lions picking ninth instead of 7th in round 2. 

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some Day 2/3 mock results I ran at the PFN mock simulator:

  • 41. Ifeatu Melifonwu CB Syracuse
    72.  Amon-Ra St. Brown WR USC
    101. Ar'Darius Washington S Washington
    112. Tyler Shelvin DT LSU
    153. Cade Johnson WR South Dakota State
  • 41. Levi Onwuzurike DT Washington
    72. Nick Bolton LB Missouri 
    101. Trill Williams CB Syracuse
    112. Tutu Atwell WR Louisville
    153. Austin Watkins WR UAB
  • 41. Trevon Moehrig S TCU
    72. Dyami Brown WR North Carolina
    101. Chazz Surratt LB North Carolina
    112. Marquez Stevenson WR Houston
    153. Jonathan Marshall DT Arkansas

I'm having a hard time NOT doubling down at WR, it's such a deep class and the roster need is genuine.

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