Add/Drop and Waiver Wire wonderment thread: Do you still own Domingo Santana?

[Eephus 25,862]

So much for pressing my luck with Cory Kluber

[pantagrapher 1,029]

So much for pressing my luck with Cory Kluber

Last start worried me a bit. Glad I benched him.

[pollardsvision 3,034]

So much for pressing my luck with Cory Kluber

Last start worried me a bit. Glad I benched him.

Yeah, I'm pretty hesitant to start any non-stud in BAL. Kept Kluber on the bench, and hoping for better luck in KC.

[pollardsvision 3,034]

I've got to cut someone for Miller, then probably someone for an RP.

Who would you guys be most likely to cut (it's a deep keeper, so any youngish guy holds a little more value)? Position doesn't matter much, and I don't like leaving young MI's with solid potential on the wire.

Quentin (love the guy when healthy, it's an OBP league, but I don't trust him to stay healthy)

Frazier (taking more walks and getting on base, but still just hitting too many GBs. have a feeling he's due for a big hotstreak)

Gattis (still hanging on for keeper considerations)

Dozier (cooling down and not as good a prospect as Miller, but still not far out from his crazy tear)

Ibanez (don't know how I could actually cut him right now)

[Doctor Detroit 20,905]

If you're desperate for SB's in a deep league, Jarrod Dyson was recently activated from the DL. He should be stealing 43 bases between now and the end of the year.

I took the bait here in need of steals. Looks like he plays vs righties mostly but even then it's not a sure thing. I'll give this until Granderson gets back to see what I have...

[rodg12 2,437]

I've got to cut someone for Miller, then probably someone for an RP.

Who would you guys be most likely to cut (it's a deep keeper, so any youngish guy holds a little more value)? Position doesn't matter much, and I don't like leaving young MI's with solid potential on the wire.

Quentin (love the guy when healthy, it's an OBP league, but I don't trust him to stay healthy)

Frazier (taking more walks and getting on base, but still just hitting too many GBs. have a feeling he's due for a big hotstreak)

Gattis (still hanging on for keeper considerations)

Dozier (cooling down and not as good a prospect as Miller, but still not far out from his crazy tear)

Ibanez (don't know how I could actually cut him right now)

I cut Dozier

[pollardsvision 3,034]

I've got to cut someone for Miller, then probably someone for an RP.

Who would you guys be most likely to cut (it's a deep keeper, so any youngish guy holds a little more value)? Position doesn't matter much, and I don't like leaving young MI's with solid potential on the wire.

Quentin (love the guy when healthy, it's an OBP league, but I don't trust him to stay healthy)

Frazier (taking more walks and getting on base, but still just hitting too many GBs. have a feeling he's due for a big hotstreak)

Gattis (still hanging on for keeper considerations)

Dozier (cooling down and not as good a prospect as Miller, but still not far out from his crazy tear)

Ibanez (don't know how I could actually cut him right now)

I cut Dozier

I'm going to try to hang onto Dozier a little longer. Franklin's now banged up and Miller is still looking for his first MLB hit.

Even in Dozier's current slump, he's still taking walks and getting on base.

I know I can't carry all 3 of these schmucks for very long though.

I ended up cutting Quentin. I probably need to revisit the Gattis issue though.

[shadyridr 14,318]

I added Jacob Turner. Kids been lights out and was once a top prospect. I hate owning two Marlin pitchers (Fernandez) but their offense has been better

[nysfl2 198]

Worth grabbing Zack Wheeler if I'm looking for another starter?

[Doctor Detroit 20,905]

I added Jacob Turner. Kids been lights out and was once a top prospect. I hate owning two Marlin pitchers (Fernandez) but their offense has been better

Low k numbers, a ridiculously low HR/FB ratio and a strand rate currently over 80% probably will catch up to him.

[Tiger Fan 3,867]

y'all sticking with Andrus?

[DA RAIDERS 4,815]

hellikson pitching well recently. picked him up along with chalcin

[sho nuff 17,212]

hellikson pitching well recently. picked him up along with chalcin

Also rolling with Chacin...been eying Hellickson as well.

Will see once I get a few of these DL guys back to be able to have some of these fill ins to drop.

[Northern Voice 10,978]

Rajai Davis likely playing every day while Melky is on the DL, he's worth starting every time he faces a lefty anyway and now he has a 6 game hit streak and stolen 7 bases in his last 4 games.

[Wrigley 3,453]

Rajai Davis likely playing every day while Melky is on the DL, he's worth starting every time he faces a lefty anyway and now he has a 6 game hit streak and stolen 7 bases in his last 4 games.

PIcked him up last week when Melky went down.......cheap steals, gotta love em.

[pollardsvision 3,034]

For those that like to dabble in the Matt Adams market, it's keeping an eye on the Holliday situation. Might be nothing but he's got sore neck/back issues. Maybe he can keep getting ABs even after the 8-game AL road trip ends.

[pollardsvision 3,034]

I assume Ike Davis has already been picked back up, but if not, I'd try to do so now.

[sho nuff 17,212]

I assume Ike Davis has already been picked back up, but if not, I'd try to do so now.

No thanks...awful batting average and strikes out a lot...terrible in points league and not much better except in deeper leagues.

A bad version of Adam Dunn basically...

[rascal 1,737]

Chase Headley was dropped as was Leonys martin (WTF??)...thinking about dropping Carl Crawford for either. Worried about Crawford's playing time. Thoughts?

Also thinking about picking up Jeremy Hefner....any chance he is legit?

[pollardsvision 3,034]

I assume Ike Davis has already been picked back up, but if not, I'd try to do so now.

No thanks...awful batting average and strikes out a lot...terrible in points league and not much better except in deeper leagues.

A bad version of Adam Dunn basically...

You are probably right.

I don't play in AVG or points leagues, so I have no idea about those.

Davis' K-rate hit 30% this year, before going to the minors. It was never more than 24% before that. It's now as high as that other 1B Davis that kept getting sent back down to the minors (where he would completely mash). That other Davis is finally starting to walk as much as Ike always has (double digits).

Obviously, I'm not dumb enough to say Ike is the next Chris. It would've been dumb to say Chris would've been the next Chris. But young sluggers can start to figure it out in their mid-20's. Ike's a year younger with 1100+ fewer minor league ABs than Chris.

Hitting too many groundballs this season aside, the power has always been there and the OB skills have shown glimpses (.351 and .383 in his first two MLB seasons). Last year, he was atrocious in the first half, then busted out 20 HRs with a .346 OBP in the 2nd (with a .260 BABip).

He's a FA flyer and, like the rest, probably won't pan out, but I doubt there will be many FA pick-ups with the type of 2nd half upside that Ike has.

Edited July 8, 2013 by pollardsvision

[dparker713 776]

I assume Ike Davis has already been picked back up, but if not, I'd try to do so now.

No thanks...awful batting average and strikes out a lot...terrible in points league and not much better except in deeper leagues.

A bad version of Adam Dunn basically...

Wow, major recency bias.

[rodg12 2,437]

Chase Headley was dropped as was Leonys martin (WTF??)...thinking about dropping Carl Crawford for either. Worried about Crawford's playing time. Thoughts?

Also thinking about picking up Jeremy Hefner....any chance he is legit?

I'd drop Crawford for Headley. He's heating up. Been hitting well in July.

[shadyridr 14,318]

I added hefner last week for the best streaming double start ever! Keeping him for now. Hes been a QS machine

[sho nuff 17,212]

I assume Ike Davis has already been picked back up, but if not, I'd try to do so now.

No thanks...awful batting average and strikes out a lot...terrible in points league and not much better except in deeper leagues.

A bad version of Adam Dunn basically...

Wow, major recency bias.

Strikes out a little less...but also shows less power than Dunn.

Where am I off here?

And that is comparing the last few years of Dunn...not even his prime.

[Bobcat10 1,991]

Chase Headley was dropped as was Leonys martin (WTF??)...thinking about dropping Carl Crawford for either. Worried about Crawford's playing time. Thoughts?

Also thinking about picking up Jeremy Hefner....any chance he is legit?

I'd drop Crawford for Headley. He's heating up. Been hitting well in July.

Kemp went to the DL if it's a playing time thing with Crawford. Not sure who I'd really want to be honest. Nobody else worth dropping?

[Annyong 2,125]

Gerardo Parra gonna lose most of his PT when Eaton comes back?

[rascal 1,737]

Chase Headley was dropped as was Leonys martin (WTF??)...thinking about dropping Carl Crawford for either. Worried about Crawford's playing time. Thoughts?

Also thinking about picking up Jeremy Hefner....any chance he is legit?

I'd drop Crawford for Headley. He's heating up. Been hitting well in July.

Kemp went to the DL if it's a playing time thing with Crawford. Not sure who I'd really want to be honest. Nobody else worth dropping?

not really.

Ike Davis, I need the power, or Erasmo Ramirez, who was just called up and who I actually dropped Crawford for, are my only real options. Pitchers are coveted a lot more than hitters in my league.

C: Ryan Doumit

1B: Prince Fielder

2B: Anthony Rendon

SS: Nick Franklin

3B: Evan Longoria

OF: Mike Trout, Alex Rios, Dominic Brown

UTL: Starling Marte, Yasiel Puig

Bench: Will Myers, Ike Davis

DL: Jedd Gyorko

SP: Jered Weaver, Madison Bumgarner, Mat Latos, Matt Harvey, Mike Minor, Patrick Corbin, Tony Cingrani, Erasmo Ramirez

RP: Edward Mujica, Steve Cishek, Joaquin Benoit

DL: Johnny Cueto

Edited July 9, 2013 by rascal

[Bobcat10 1,991]

Gerardo Parra gonna lose most of his PT when Eaton comes back?

"Most"? Tough assumption to make IMO. Maybe they can move Kubel? Send Pollock down? Interesting situation.

[dparker713 776]

I assume Ike Davis has already been picked back up, but if not, I'd try to do so now.

No thanks...awful batting average and strikes out a lot...terrible in points league and not much better except in deeper leagues.

A bad version of Adam Dunn basically...

Wow, major recency bias.

Strikes out a little less...but also shows less power than Dunn.

Where am I off here?

And that is comparing the last few years of Dunn...not even his prime.

Last several years Ike has shown much less batting average risk and nearly identical power potential. He's had incredibly bad stretches this year and the first half of last year, but he's also had extended stretches since he's been called up that exceed Dunn's abilities at this point. And the gap in K% is more than just a little at this point.

[sho nuff 17,212]

I assume Ike Davis has already been picked back up, but if not, I'd try to do so now.

No thanks...awful batting average and strikes out a lot...terrible in points league and not much better except in deeper leagues.

A bad version of Adam Dunn basically...

Wow, major recency bias.

Strikes out a little less...but also shows less power than Dunn.

Where am I off here?

And that is comparing the last few years of Dunn...not even his prime.

Last several years Ike has shown much less batting average risk and nearly identical power potential. He's had incredibly bad stretches this year and the first half of last year, but he's also had extended stretches since he's been called up that exceed Dunn's abilities at this point. And the gap in K% is more than just a little at this point.

2012 was the only time to really compare the 2 in power numbers and Dunn still hit 9 more.

And while he also strikes out more...Dunn draws more walks too.

And again...this is Dunn on the tail end of his career.

IMO...Davis right now is a lesser version of the current Dunn even...much less his career. He may one day get to Dunn's prime type numbers...but would not want him on either team I have.

[Annyong 2,125]

the only bad part about having Trout in a keeper league is offering someone a trade, then getting a counter with them wanting Trout in return.

[dparker713 776]

I assume Ike Davis has already been picked back up, but if not, I'd try to do so now.

No thanks...awful batting average and strikes out a lot...terrible in points league and not much better except in deeper leagues.

A bad version of Adam Dunn basically...

Wow, major recency bias.

Strikes out a little less...but also shows less power than Dunn.

Where am I off here?

And that is comparing the last few years of Dunn...not even his prime.

Last several years Ike has shown much less batting average risk and nearly identical power potential. He's had incredibly bad stretches this year and the first half of last year, but he's also had extended stretches since he's been called up that exceed Dunn's abilities at this point. And the gap in K% is more than just a little at this point.

2012 was the only time to really compare the 2 in power numbers and Dunn still hit 9 more.

And while he also strikes out more...Dunn draws more walks too.

And again...this is Dunn on the tail end of his career.

IMO...Davis right now is a lesser version of the current Dunn even...much less his career. He may one day get to Dunn's prime type numbers...but would not want him on either team I have.

There's more to power than HRs. Its been about .020 ISO. And a this point you have to give the Mets the better lineup than the CWS. Yes, Dunn walks more, but he's also sustained a K% of over 30% each of that last 4 seasons. Sure, Dunn runs into plenty of HRs to be valuable, but the last time he provided significant value in more than one category was 2010 with the Nationals. Ike was crushing in 2011 until he got injured. He crushed the last half of last season. Yes the K% spike this year is disturbing, but there is atleast a chance 2011 is his true talent level and he'll improve. There is zero chance Dunn improves from a one category guy at this point.

[Good Posting Judge 13,670]

the only bad part about having Trout in a keeper league is offering someone a trade, then getting a counter with them wanting Trout in return.

Change team name to NO TROUT FOR YOU.

[jamny 6,595]

Gerardo Parra gonna lose most of his PT when Eaton comes back?

"Most"? Tough assumption to make IMO. Maybe they can move Kubel? Send Pollock down? Interesting situation.

Eaton off the DL and starting today.

[MAC_32 12,842]

... And leading off. Very telling.

[Wrigley 3,453]

... And leading off. Very telling.

:giantboner:

[ex-ghost 736]

So, how many HRs did/does Ibanez have to hit for you to have any interest?

I was going to hold out until he hit #45, but I went ahead and pulled the trigger after #17. I'm still not real excited about it.

22 now. Crazy.

[shadyridr 14,318]

Soriano has been red hot

[pollardsvision 3,034]

I think I've got to cut the cord on Adam Lind. It was a fun ride, but he's now got a 27/2 K/BB ratio over the last month and sporting a sweet .242 OBP.

[Good Posting Judge 13,670]

Smoak time?

[ex-ghost 736]

Smoak time?

Looking like the real thing.

[rascal 1,737]

Think I've seen enough of Ike.

FWIW, Miguel Montero has hit hrs in b2b games. he is on a lot of WW.

[Bronx Bomber 28]

new to Fantasy BB, just took over an orphan 8 keeper team. Have Howard, Berkman and Betancourt at for 1st baseman. I'm looking at FAs like Davis, Belt, Lind, Alonso, Morrison, Moreland to replace Berkman and move Howard to DL. 25 games back and looking for potential keeper options.

[Northern Voice 10,978]

new to Fantasy BB, just took over an orphan 8 keeper team. Have Howard, Berkman and Betancourt at for 1st baseman. I'm looking at FAs like Davis, Belt, Lind, Alonso, Morrison, Moreland to replace Berkman and move Howard to DL. 25 games back and looking for potential keeper options.

LoMo was always thought to have the potential to hit like he is now, something always has gotten in the way, I could see taking a chance on him out of that group.

[Northern Voice 10,978]

Speaking of having huge potential, thoughts on Justin Smoak? Is he a .360 OBP, 20-25HR guy now?

[rodg12 2,437]

Speaking of having huge potential, thoughts on Justin Smoak? Is he a .360 OBP, 20-25HR guy now?

I took a flyer on him yesterday. Was just sitting out there on our WW in a pretty deep league. I have him on my bench right now, but like the depth he provides me in case Pujols finally succumbs to the foot issues or one of my OF go down.

[Bronx Bomber 28]

With only 2 bench spots and DL spot (Howard) is it at all advisable to try and stash a guy like Bogaerts, Castellanos, Yelich, Singleton? We keep 8 players and I'm 25 games back so looking for upside.

[collective 26]

With only 2 bench spots and DL spot (Howard) is it at all advisable to try and stash a guy like Bogaerts, Castellanos, Yelich, Singleton? We keep 8 players and I'm 25 games back so looking for upside.

Is Howard even worth owning since he probably won't be back until late-August or early-September?

[Bronx Bomber 28]

With only 2 bench spots and DL spot (Howard) is it at all advisable to try and stash a guy like Bogaerts, Castellanos, Yelich, Singleton? We keep 8 players and I'm 25 games back so looking for upside.

Is Howard even worth owning since he probably won't be back until late-August or early-September?

I'm not really sure, just started playing a few days ago as I took over a team. Trying to get back into BB. It's a 8-player keeper league so it just depends on if Howard is a possible keeper option. It looks like a moot point though now as it doesn't seem like I can pick up minor leaguers in this league.

[fred_1_15301 5,669]

With only 2 bench spots and DL spot (Howard) is it at all advisable to try and stash a guy like Bogaerts, Castellanos, Yelich, Singleton? We keep 8 players and I'm 25 games back so looking for upside.

Is Howard even worth owning since he probably won't be back until late-August or early-September?

(I feel dirty doing that with a Collective post). Howard is not worth keeping this season (or probably ever)